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Do you have to be an intellectual to be a feminist? Are you saying femininst are some elite group that work behind the scenes to issue protocols on what black women should and should not be doing?

of course not. BUT, within every movement you have people who have a deeper understanding of what their movement is about and are therefore taken more seriously in the academic world

A celebrity like Kanye West can call himself a black activist, and he'll certainly be more recognizable. but his opinion won't hold the same weight in academic circles as someone like James Baldwin. that doesn't mean Kanye isn't a black activist it just means that his views, academically speaking, will not hold more precedence over someone like Baldwin, regardless of what the average person thinks. the same thing applies to the black feminist movement

as for the examples that UnAmericanDreamer posted, Morrison and Walker are the only ones I've seen blatantly refer to themselves as black feminists. though I could be wrong. still to group them with the likes of superhead and Steve Harvey and imply that they somehow share the same viewpoints and are pushing the same agendas strikes me as being a bit ridiculous
 

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What are these "burdens" that black women have that other women don't have??

And when have black women ever been oppressed by their men in America?


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I think what he's trying to say is that black men takes cues from the white patriarchy,(as do every other group) though does it really matter if so few black men are actually practicing patriarchs in their communities? I think Black Men are the least patriarchal men on the planet.
 

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I think what he's trying to say is that black men takes cues from the white patriarchy,(as do every other group) though does it really matter if so few black men actually are actually practicing patriarchs in their communities? I think Black Men are the least patriarchal men on the planet.

but what's the harm in pointing out these cues while still making the main focus on racist white male patriarchy? that's the point of black feminism. and it's way more than "a few black men" who are influenced by it
 

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of course not. BUT, within every movement you have people who have a deeper understanding of what their movement is about and are therefore taken more seriously in the academic world

A celebrity like Kanye West can call himself a black activist, and he'll certainly be more recognizable. but his opinion won't hold the same weight in academic circles as someone like James Baldwin. that doesn't mean Kanye isn't a black activist it just means that his views, academically speaking, will not hold more precedence over someone like Baldwin, regardless of what the average person thinks. the same thing applies to the black feminist movement

as for the examples that UnAmericanDreamer posted, Morrison and Walker are the only ones I've seen blatantly refer to themselves as black feminists. though I could be wrong. still to group them with the likes of superhead and Steve Harvey and imply that they somehow share the same viewpoints and are pushing the same agendas strikes me as being a bit ridiculous

You forgot Oprah and a few other ones.
 

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black feminism = white supremacy

And I was say that years before Nasheed ever said it.
 

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As someone stated earlier. The black feminist movement is two-fold. There are traditional black feminists I.e angela davis,but that older ideology from the 60s and 70s is not nessarily represented today. A lot of these anrgy azz black females on blogs,message boards etc somewhat misrepresent the traditional definition/representation of what black feminisim derived from. One of my aunties taught african american studies at this university in california and she was a former black nationalist/ former black panther party supporter back in the days. She viewed black feminisim as somewhat devisive in the black nationalists/revolutionist quest for unity. She told me that back the during that movement. All the black folks men, women & chilren were all on the same page. Everybody had a role and stake. The women weren't about bashin the black man. She said it was about unity.

But some of these black feminists today give the term "black feminism" a bad rap. A lot of these black feminists are full of shhyt and full of double standards. They talk mad hhhyt about the brothas datin white chix and sellin out or not takin care of they kids, bein in jail etc. But these same black feminists will only date white men or a lot of these byttches are llesbians. They feel that they have a right to tell brothas what to do ,but a nygga better not say shhyt to them about who they date or their sexuality.
 

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I think what he's trying to say is that black men takes cues from the white patriarchy,(as do every other group) though does it really matter if so few black men are actually practicing patriarchs in their communities? I think Black Men are the least patriarchal men on the planet.

They were raised by matriachal mothers. If you want Marines you send them to the Marines. You don't send them to Martha Stewart's class.
 

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but what's the harm in pointing out these cues while still making the main focus on racist white male patriarchy? that's the point of black feminism. and it's way more than "a few black men" who are influenced by it

The harm in it is that black community is in shambles because black boys don't have a healthy identity of manhood, remember? Teaching black boys to be a patriarch is not a bad thing necessarily. A black man who leads his family does not make one a tyrant. Black feminism sees any sort of black male authority as threatening and undermines it.
 
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