Black Feminism

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As someone stated earlier. The black feminist movement is two-fold. There are traditional black feminists I.e angela davis,but that older ideology from the 60s and 70s is not nessarily represented today. A lot of these anrgy azz black females on blogs,message boards etc somewhat misrepresent the traditional definition/representation of what black feminisim derived from. One of my aunties taught african american studies at this university in california and she was a former black nationalist/ former black panther party supporter back in the days. She viewed black feminisim as somewhat devisive in the black nationalists/revolutionist quest for unity. She told me that back the during that movement. All the black folks men, women & chilren were all on the same page. Everybody had a role and stake. The women weren't about bashin the black man. She said it was about unity.

But some of these black feminists today give the term "black feminism" a bad rap. A lot of these black feminists are full of shhyt and full of double standards. They talk mad hhhyt about the brothas datin white chix and sellin out or not takin care of they kids, bein in jail etc. But these same black feminists will only date white men or a lot of these byttches are llesbians. They feel that they have a right to tell brothas what to do ,but a nygga better not say shhyt to them about who they date or their sexuality.

qft

yall should just add neo to this generation of black feminist.

neo black feminist - sh1t on black men to gain position in the white supremacist power structure.
 

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As someone stated earlier. The black feminist movement is two-fold. There are traditional black feminists I.e angela davis,but that older ideology from the 60s and 70s is not nessarily represented today. A lot of these anrgy azz black females on blogs,message boards etc somewhat misrepresent the traditional definition/representation of what black feminisim derived from. One of my aunties taught african american studies at this university in california and she was a former black nationalist/ former black panther party supporter back in the days. She viewed black feminisim as somewhat devisive in the black nationalists/revolutionist quest for unity. She told me that back the during that movement. All the black folks men, women & chilren were all on the same page. Everybody had a role and stake. The women weren't about bashin the black man. She said it was about unity.

But some of these black feminists today give the term "black feminism" a bad rap. A lot of these black feminists are full of shhyt and full of double standards. They talk mad hhhyt about the brothas datin white chix and sellin out or not takin care of they kids, bein in jail etc. But these same black feminists will only date white men or a lot of these byttches are llesbians. They feel that they have a right to tell brothas what to do ,but a nygga better not say shhyt to them about who they date or their sexuality.


Yep. A certain sect of women today have really confused things.

Think before you post next time fakkit.

Ok Sierra Mist. :jawalrus:
 

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The harm in it is that black community is in shambles because black boys don't have a healthy identity of manhood, remember? Teaching black boys to be a patriarch is not a bad thing necessarily. A black man who leads his family does not make one a tyrant. Black feminism sees any sort of black male authority as threatening.

I do agree with this somewhat, and it's an issue I actually do have with a lot of black feminists

BUT, what more black men need to realize is that the same white patriarchal system that feminists fight against is also the same system that oppresses black men. we're essentially trying to emulate a system that hates us and we need to be more cautious of this when we say that we need to emulate it. that's what black feminists are trying to make us aware of
 

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I don't give 2 fukks about any type of feminism. If a chick tells me she's a feminist, I pretty much ignore anything she has to say.
You do know that the title "feminist" isn't only applicable to women, right?
A man can be a feminist too. To be considered a feminist, your views fall in line with the ideals of feminism ( a supporter).
 

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mainstream feminism may acknowledge and highlight racism, but that's not it's main emphasis. the main emphasis of black feminism is racism, that's where it differs

Of course they differ, i'm not trying to say otherwise. My point is that all forms of feminism are essentially the same, and that "black feminism" and it emphisis on racism really did nothing that the civil rights movement wasn't already clearly doing.

in no way am I taking away from the civil rights movement and their impact. but there WAS sexism within it and there wasn't much of an emphasis on how that sexism was the direct result of elements created by the white male power structure. that's why the black feminist movement was necessary

I strongly disagree, are you implying that sexism is a strict derivative of caucasian culture? With all due respect that's ridiculous, the fact is that sexism itself is born from the evolutionary discrepancy between genders, it didnt originate from white supremacy nor the white power structure we were subjected to.

So really, based on what you're saying, the "black feminist movement" wasn't necessary at all.
 

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I do agree with this somewhat, and it's an issue I actually do have with a lot of black feminists

BUT, what more black men need to realize is that the same white patriarchal system that feminists fight against is also the same system that oppresses black men. we're essentially trying to emulate a system that hates us and we need to be more cautious of this when we say that we need to emulate it. that's what black feminists are trying to make us aware of

The system is not the problem, the people are the problem. White people don't hate black people because of patriarchy, they hate us because they bitter ass cacs. What are black feminists going to replace the system with so that they can transition all these maladjusted black male youths with no skills? Matriachy and black feminism ain't cutting it. We've seen what 40 years of that looks like. We end up with a bunch of arrogant professional black women who complain about fukking ain't shyt nikkas because theres no "good" ones, left. Remember?
 

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Of course they differ, i'm not trying to say otherwise. My point is that all forms of feminism are essentially the same, and that "black feminism" and it emphisis on racism really did nothing that the civil rights movement wasn't already clearly doing.



I strongly disagree, are you implying that sexism is a strict derivative of caucasian culture? With all due respect that's ridiculous, the fact is that sexism itself is born from the evolutionary discrepancy between genders, it didnt originate from white supremacy nor the white power structure we were subjected to.

So really, based on what you're saying, the "black feminist movement" wasn't necessary at all.

I'm not saying sexism originated from white supremacy. what I'm saying is that's the form of sexism that black feminists are specifically fighting against. the necessity of black feminism comes in the awareness they bring to the fact that many black men are directly influenced by that form of sexism. the white male patriarchal system that black women are fighting against is the same system that oppresses black men. black feminists are trying to make black men aware that they have the same enemy
 

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The system is not the problem, the people are the problem. White people don't hate black people because of patriarchy, they hate us because they bitter ass cacs. What are black feminists going to replace the system with so that they can transition all these maladjusted black male youths with no skills? Matriachy and black feminism ain't cutting it. We've seen what 40 years of that looks like. We end up with a bunch of arrogant professional black women who complain about fukking ain't shyt nikkas because theres no "good" ones, left. Remember?

the root of that bitterness stems from white male patriarchy, it didn't just come from nowhere. the notion of non whites being inferior, the attitude behind american slavery, the attitude behind jim crow, that comes from white male patriarchy.

as for the bitter black women syndrome, you're confusing two completely different things
 

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Isn't racism the problem here more so than sexism?

I don't agree with this at all.

"Gender is especially significant because it is a master status; that is, it cuts across all aspects of social life. No matter what we attain in life, we carry the label male or female. These labels convey images and expectations about how we should act. Gender not only guides our behavior but also is a basis for making people unequal."

Quoted straight from my sociology book.

Generally,men are "first place," in society.Some would say that black women are "double cursed."Not only do they have to deal with the inequalities of being a women(which affects all races of women),but they also have to deal with the inequalities of being black.
 

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I do agree with this somewhat, and it's an issue I actually do have with a lot of black feminists

BUT, what more black men need to realize is that the same white patriarchal system that feminists fight against is also the same system that oppresses black men. we're essentially trying to emulate a system that hates us and we need to be more cautious of this when we say that we need to emulate it. that's what black feminists are trying to make us aware of

You're not living in the real world stop using some crap you read in some text book.
 
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that's cool. here's the problem though, you saw the title "black feminism" and your first instinct was to dismiss anything I had to say. I'm the type of person who actually likes to learn about something before I completely dismiss it. do you though

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