Black Feminist Debates Catcalling On CNN

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You're okay with black women being harassed as long as it doesn't result in Black men being harassed.

I'm okay with black men complimenting a women on the street and not getting thrown in jail if he doesn't pursue her and lets her walk off if she's not feeling him.
 

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Simple.
Learn the difference between harassment - which is already illegal - and standard social interaction and advances from suitors you may not be interest in.
I would also staunchly suggest that before they sign off on voiding constitutional rights of freedom of speech because, "Hey, babydoll," makes them uncomfortable, they take a glance at North Korea.

Women know what harassment is and it's insulting to suggest they don't, men don't get to decide what women deem as harassment.

Telling women "it's worse in North Korea" is no different from white people telling Black people they should be grateful they're in America because Africa is much worse.
 

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Is anybody going to actually debate/discuss what she said or are we just going to give hypothetical "work" to her and all the black feminists? Seems like y'all are more worried about the label than the content.
A black woman in bed with a white agenda never works out well when administered by cacs. Sorry no one supporting this garbage.

She made decent points but men can't be stopped from hollering under this culture.
 
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I'm okay with black men complimenting a women on the street and not getting thrown in jail if he doesn't pursue her and lets her walk off if she's not feeling him.

Many women are standing up and saying they don't like the "compliments" and they feel they're being harassed daily, what do you suggest these women do instead of push for new laws?
 

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I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

Let's ignore this video, specifically. The logic that because a woman, any woman, is dressed a certain way, she's inviting harassment, is the exact same logic a white supremacist will use when a young black man is killed. I'm speaking in general, not just about this video, when I say that, so all that shyt you're talking is moot.

In the south, black men were killed for whistling at white women or flirting with them, which would be deemed as 'harassment' in your eyes. Now, you want to support a group that wants legislation to be able to lock up black and latino men for 'making women', the majority of which will be white, 'uncomfortable' with compliments.

There's a huge distinction between a woman wearing clothes she knows will get attention and receiving compliments and between her 'inviting sexual harassment.' Getting touched and groped is sexual harassment. Having a man say 'hey beautiful' and letting you walk off with no problems isn't.
 

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Of course. It always hits the women secondly.
You want a cripple to people, you take out the males first. This shyt is chess, not checkers.
When the settlers invaded Natives, they targeted the men and male children.
This is no different than what is happening now, just it's currently being carried out with random acts of violence (a Trayvon Martin or Mike Brown here or there, small instances of police brutality) and overzealous legislation ( stop & frisk, street harassment, war on drugs ) that effectively targets minority males and successfully sees that they suffer harsher penalties and longer sentences.
AA's and Caucasians are at war, but it's not with guns and bloodshed for the most part.
It's political.
I would say that the political tactics are even more potent, because they can successfully get blacks to cosign said legislation that they believe will not effect them, that lessens any resistance and makes the process even smoother.
Blacks will be 2/5ths human legally by the time members of this board have children that are old enough to be great grandparents.


People need to read the underlined. By the time the 22nd century runs around, black folks be the new age slaves.
 

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n the south, black men were killed for whistling at white women or flirting with them, which would be deemed as 'harassment' in your eyes. Now, you want to support a group that wants legislation to be able to lock up black and latino men for 'making women', the majority of which will be white, 'uncomfortable' with compliments.

You clearly have me confused with someone else.
 

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Women know what harassment is and it's insulting to suggest they don't, men don't get to decide what women deem as harassment.

Telling women "it's worse in North Korea" is no different from white people telling Black people they should be grateful they're in America because Africa is much worse.

"Babydoll," isn't harassment any way you slice it. I won't advocate black men receiving criminal records for saying "Hi,"
And my second point flew over your head, but that's in part due to you not actually being interested in a response, simply only being eager to provide a catty retort.
North Korea is a country that has censored and restricted their citizens from the language they may use in public, to the websites they may browse in the privacy of their homes.
That is essentially what you're advocating for and you're certainly not doing it in the best interest of those black women ,because legislation in America will always discrepantly target minority men & women.
When it's your mothers or your wives turn because a white woman made the claim they deemed their response and words as harassment? Then what?
Because you don't get to decide what that person feels is harassment or not.
 

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All the women and gay men in this video need to potentially receive a jail sentence because they were harassing this guy on the street right?
 

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"Babydoll," isn't harassment any way you slice it. I won't advocate black men receiving criminal records for saying "Hi,"
And my second point flew over your head, but that's in part due to you not actually being interested in a response, simply only being eager provide a catty retort.
North Korea is a country that has censored and restricted their citizens from the language they may use in public, to the websites they may browse in the privacy of their homes.
That is essentially what you're advocating for and you're certainly not doing it in the best interest of those black women ,because legislation in America will always discrepantly target minority men & women.
When it's your mothers or your wives turn because a white woman made the claim they deemed their response and words as harassment? Then what?
Because you don't get to decide what that person feels is harassment or not.

A lot of posters are defending fascism and they don't even know it
 

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"Babydoll," isn't harassment any way you slice it. I won't advocate black men receiving criminal records for saying "Hi,"
And my second point flew over your head, but that's in part due to you not actually being interested in a response, simply only being eager provide a catty retort.
North Korea is a country that has censored and restricted their citizens from the language they may use in public, to the websites they may browse in their privacy.
That is essentially what you're advocating for and you're certainly not doing it in the best interest of those black women ,because legislation in America will always discrepantly target minority men & women.
When it's your mothers or your wives turn because a white woman made the claim they deemed their response and words as harassment? Then what?
Because you don't get to decide what that person feels is harassment or not.

What is your suggestion to the women who believe "compliments" are harassment?
 

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What is your suggestion to the women who believe "compliments" are harassment?

Woman up and keep it pushing. Men don't like to hear a woman nagging or running her mouth, but they don't have the option to call the cops and get her removed. They listen to it and move on.
 

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What is your suggestion to the women who believe "compliments" are harassment?

Simple.
Learn the difference between harassment - which is already illegal - and standard social interaction and advances from suitors you may not be interested in.


Again, I ask you and haven't gotten an answer - what happens when it's your mothers or your wives turn and they offend a white woman in public?
 
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