Black Google Engineer "Google hires the whitest black candidates"

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coder and engineer for tech giant Google is opening up about her unique experience as one of the company’s very few Black employees as the firm and Silicon Valley as whole struggle to diversify its hiring pool.

During a recent appearance on the GHOGH podcast, mobile app developer Bria Sullivan spoke about her work at the billion-dollar company, as well as her efforts to help others like her get a shot in the tech industry.

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Bria Sullivan is an engineer at Google and hailed her staff as “one of the most diverse teams” at the tech giant. (Photo: Bria Sullivan / Instagram and SOPA Images for Getty Images)
Like most, however, Sullivan had a few bones to pick with her current employer.

“This is my problem. I feel like they hire the whitest black candidate,” the California native opined. “They hire someone who’s exactly like them, but Black.”

“It feels very obvious,” Sullivan added, noting how the Black community falls prey to it much of the time. “We cheer on … yes, it’s really great that, that person is there. [But] I feel like … actually put someone in a position where they’re running an organization.”

Sullivan lauded the fact that a Black person heads Google’s diversity office and said that while it’s great to have someone who can empathize with her, “at the end of the day, they still work for you (Google).”

Speaking to whether the company has a “Clarence Thomas problem” in that it hires Black professionals that aren’t “really going to move the needle” or work in the interest of Black folks, Sullivan said it absolutely does.

“I feel like they hire someone that meets exactly their qualifications and I feel like this is a problem,” she told host Jamarlin Martin. “And when I was saying there’s a hiring problem, a lot of what people are asking for is they don’t realize that they’re asking for a white person. They might find a black person that does (meet the criteria), and it’s … probably not going to be the type of black person that’s actually going to do the thing that we want because it’s what THEY want.”

Leading tech companies like Facebook, Google and Applehave faced criticism for the lack of melanin among their top leadership positions and have tried improving its diversity, but to little avail. In its 2019 Diversity Report, released in April, Google reported the percentage of Black and Latino hires rose 0.7 percent to 4.8 percent globally and 0.5 percent to 6.8 percent in the U.S.

“Both Black+ and Latinx+ tech hiring have increased since last year and are contributing to gains in representation,” the company said of its tech hires.

Hiring rates for women in the company also saw an increase, reaching 33.2 percent — up 1.9 percent — globally and 34.9 percent — up 4.5 percent — in the U.S., per the report.

Sullivan, a former Microsoft intern, said its been the support of her current team and manager that’s kept her on board at Google.

“I can say any radical thing I want or check someone and I’m not reprimanded for it or I haven’t really had to do that, at least on my immediate team,” which she described as one of the “most diverse teams at Google.” She proudly leads a group that consists of two Black interns, and three Black engineers.

Additionally, Sullivan said she has a “manager who will stick up for me and will say like, ‘don’t talk over her’ or something like that. And that’s actually pretty rare.”

Black Google Engineer Spills the Tea on Silicon Valley's Hiring Practices, Says Tech Giant Only Picks the 'Whitest Black Candidates'

this is true of all corporate employees. @ab.aspectus put me on this book which just confirmed what I've seen in the legal industry.

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Black ppl who came up in the black community dont stand a chance.
Those "cultural fit" interviews.:mjpls:
 

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How many "stereotypical blacks" do y'all know getting these advanced degrees though?

Let's be serious here :comeon:
TBH, this is ignorant as a STEM graduate. Because despite being commonly thought as ..."suburban"/nerd, I went to school and attended classes with other brehs who fit more stereotypical imagery of what "being black" means. They were getting a degree and going through the same shyt I was going through. They were trying to get a degree just like me and were just as qualified. They deserve equal consideration.

But I will say that those same brehs when they went on interviews did all the same "right" things and code switch that any other person does because that is just how it works. People got to drop the ego and realize that while we wish this situation was as blind as justice which we can't even get perfect in this country, you're dealing with a human system and you have to prioritize what is important. If your goal is to work for a corporation you have to realize just based on human behavior if people feel they can "relate to you" they will view you more favorable. That is a human bias I don't think you can ever completely train out of people. You will have to suck up your pride and "code switch" if you're interviewing with these white as white can be or some Asian who grew up around nothing but Asian or white people in silicon valley. You have to maximize your chances anyway you can if getting a job in such an environment is that important to you. Otherwise, perhaps look for another avenue.

This can be done without c00ning and demeaning your blackness by the way. I notice that it seems hard for some black people to find that nuance, unfortunately.

This chick article is perhaps just observational but if she is hoping that her critique will change it, good luck. The sad thing is, you can perhaps guilt people with these biases to actively act against them but then I don't trust most human beings ability to make a measured change unfortunately if they are essentially guilted into action. Their biases and prejudice will seep through in some way. People don't have that much discipline.
 
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TBH, this is ignorant as a STEM graduate. Because despite being commonly thought as ..."suburban"/nerd, I went to school and attended classes with other brehs who fit more stereotypical imagery of what "being black" means. They were getting a degree and going through the same shyt I was going through. They were trying to get a degree just like me and were just as qualified. They deserve equal consideration.

But I will say that those same brehs when they went on interviews did all the same "right" things and code switch that any other person does because that is just how it works. People got to drop the ego and realize that while we wish this situation was as blind as justice which we can't even get perfect in this country, you're dealing with a human system and you have to prioritize what is important. If your goal is to work for a corporation you have to realize just based on human behavior if people feel they can "relate to you" they will view you more favorable. That is a human bias I don't think you can ever completely train out of people. You will have to suck up your pride and "code switch" if you're interviewing with these white as white can be or some Asian who grew up around nothing but Asian or white people in silicon valley. You have to maximize your chances anyway you can if getting a job in such an environment is that important to you. Otherwise, perhaps look for another avenue.

This can be done without c00ning and demeaning your blackness by the way. I notice that it seems hard for some black people to find that nuance, unfortunately.
right beggars can't be choosers
 
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and? culture fit matters. Y'all expect Google to hire ANYbody?

I mean damn at least they're hiring black people.

I know a dozens of black googlers and many went to HBCUs and/or are in Black Greek organizations.
:mjpls:How are you still here?
You don't mind because they have no problem hiring a bunch of your people :mjpls:
That is if you're one person.
I would neg you but I already negged someone else
When I can again, on sight.:ufdup:
 
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Are there really folk out there who have spent enough time in the field to get the sort of experience/education Google is looking for who don't know how to act the part yet?

Y'all telling me that the new generation doesn't know how to code switch for a fukking job interview, or just doesn't want to?

I guess the internet and coding is pervasive enough now that maybe you could work up to a really high level without ever getting exposed to white tech culture, but you'd have to work hard not to know how they speak/act/what they looking for in a fellow coder.

The much bigger hurdles come much earlier on. It's elementary school quality, tech exposure in middle school and high school, life situations when adult decisions start getting made, college admissions, college environment, and startup/small-time tech culture where the major problems lie. Arguing about whether the Googles and Facebooks at the very top are hiring enough Black folk is just shifting around the elite talent but it ain't going to make a serious difference for the community.
this really goes back to the whole "should I shave and cut my hair" for an interview thing :heh:

You know...should I bring my cultural food to the pot luck?

should I reference certain movies and songs?

Should I speak with a certain tone?

Should I shrug at some jokes and double-over laughing at others?
 

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I’m attending a google diversity recruiting event this month
I’m “black” black fwiw
I’m expecting a certain type of black there but that’s not unique to google events really
Anyone in corporate America going be categorized a certain way by those who aren’t
If you’re attending this highly unlikely you’re “black” black fam. Closest you might be to it is you live around it but you actually one stop it.
 

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So is it really that far of a stretch that people who hold the same interests, went to the same schools, and got the same degrees would be similar regardless of race? It’s like black people are the only ones that aren’t allowed to have depth. Everybody has to be a certain way or else they’re not a “real” black person.
Your usage of “depth” is a code word for cultural fit.
 
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Very problematic statement Black people are not homogeneous like any race of human beings
We're not but that's not the point.
White people see us in terms of level of blackness
"Hmm Tyrone seems really ghetto I don't think he'll fit here"
"Hmm Reggie seems put together and nice I like him better" aka he seems more like us

This is the thinking a lot of the hiring teams have because they have a lot of white people
and non-black minorities (Asians let's be real) on the team

Even if they don't think they are doing this, they are doing it subconsciously.
 

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Very problematic statement Black people are not homogeneous like any race of human beings
I was thinking something similar when making my previous post but lost track of the thought and my post was getting long. Like you, a person who doesn't act "stereotypically black" doesn't mean they are less black. They are a product of their experience. I mean not every Mexican is driving in a low Rider and wearing plaid shirts. Also even if they did, I'm sure they would also probably realize if they interviewed with Google they will probably have to "code switch" for interview. All races, unfortunately if you want to say that, have to assimilate into the dominant culture to some extent in specific contexts.
 
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