Black men, how did we allow this matriarchy in the black community?

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

What about children out wedlock bruhs? It is hard being the man when you gotta pay 50% to the "child".

More marriages, less baby mamas.

be selective who you have a baby with
negotiate with her
find ways to be there for the offspring
find a compatible mate.

 

[KingDanz]

government designed.

welfare policies that support single motherhood as opposed to having a man in the house

strong feminist push, especially in the black community

blacks used to have one of the higher rates of marriage at one time in this nation.

This. /close thread

 

[Sierra Mist]

Some parts fit. Others don't, but ultimately:

Integration:Lead to black businesses collapsing as blacks were happy they could finally shop at white stores. Blacks felt that the white man's water was just that much colder so they patronized white businesses. Blacks also felt better working for the white man than other blacks.

White Flight: A lot of blacks felt comfortable working in factories for whites and not getting an education. In fact a lot of blacks that had educations had a hard time getting positions that required their degrees, so the incentive to get an education was lacking. Blacks also decided to live in the cities where they worked, which lead to whites fleeing the city to the suburbs, taking their businesses and infrastructure with them. That lead to areas being blighted. Redlining and block busting added to the table

War on Drugs: With the then absent infrastructure, the economics in the black community were lacking. Factory jobs became outsourced so uneducated blacks had even fewer options. A lot decided to sell drugs. Then came Reaganomics which had black men doing 20 year sentences for selling drugs... non violent crimes mind you.

Family Structure Decay: All while this is happening, the idea of family structure and manhood are being destroyed. Since a lot of black men couldn't be men in the traditional sense, they decided to become the b*stardized version of men. Gangsters and drug dealers. Family? That's thrown away at this point. Hell it was steadily being thrown away prior to this point, but the war on drugs was somewhat of the event horizon. Education was no longer valued. Swag was another way for black men to overcompensate for their lack of economic power.

Street Culture Promotion: Then came the cherry on top. The white man saw how black men valuing drugs and swag kept black men complacent so whites decided to promote "black hyper-masculinity". Black men favored valuing how big their dikks were, how great they could dance, how well they could rap, how much game they had and how many bytches they could fukk. This was made worse when white people allowed hiphop to become mainstream. Young black boys thought that the only way to get out of the hood was by picking up a basketball, a microphone or a bag of drugs. NOT by picking up a book.

Basically you want to know what happened to the culture? Lack of economics. You want any community to change overnight, take away their economics. This is why I laugh at people who say that in order to get out of the hood you need to "get right with God" or "find knowledge of self" or "have swag." White people didn't take love, God, swag, or knowledge of self out of the black community, but they damn sure took away the money.

The damage has been done. White people don't have to discriminate against blacks ever again. The mentality has been passed down by generation to generation. Whites could fall off the face of the planet and as long as the mentality and culture are the same it will never get better.

Needless to say, it was very systematic.

And while ALL this is happening mahood gets destroyed either by men not having jobs or by men not being there. BOTH result in women becoming the head of the household. Couple that with welfare making men not being in the home either mandatory or seem enticing and we have a recipe for disaster.

 

[HelgaPataki]

do you guys honestly think the black family was perfect pre-black feminist? i don't understand why so many black men hate black feminists but don't really care to study up on the subject. it's like white people hating blacks without knowing much of their history.

government designed.

welfare policies that support single motherhood as opposed to having a man in the house

strong feminist push, especially in the black community

blacks used to have one of the higher rates of marriage at one time in this nation.

was there any reason that there would be a black feminist movement? did black females have all the rights and respect and were just stirring up trouble for nothing?

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

The inability of a lot of us to actually financially provide for a family is what lead to Black matriarchy. We are going to have communally shame black men who create families but can't provide for them. Once black men are present in the majority of homes again, the women will fall in line.

you can do whatever positive thing you wanna do
its an illusion if you think financially you aint a provider
females might earn more in rare situations, but still gotta be the man of the house for change.
some birthing babies tho.

 

[AAKing23]

When those industrial jobs started to leave cities in the 60's many black men lost a way to provide for their families and as a result they turned to welfare programs to help. But the only catch was that the men could not be in the home in order to recieve welfare.

Therefore alot of black men began to walk out on their families due to being ashamed that they couldn't provide for their families and so that their families could collect welfare.



And that's why we're where we're at now

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

in the past - yah
in the future - how do you keep allowing yall self to be unnecessarily gamed/controlled/played by women?

 

[ThaBoyBam]

When those industrial jobs started to leave cities in the 60's many black men lost a way to provide for their families and as a result they turned to welfare programs to help. But the only catch was that the men could not be in the home in order to recieve welfare.

Therefore alot of black men began to walk out on their families due to being ashamed that they couldn't provide for their families and so that their families could collect welfare.

Good point. Also, a lot of fathers moved out of the household in order to qualify for welfare. I was talking to a few older cats and they were saying back in there day the father would stay away for extended periods of time because the fam never new when the welfare people were gonna check to see if there was a man living in the crib. shyt is deep.

 

[AAKing23]

in the past - yah
in the future - how do you keep allowing yall self to be unnecessarily gamed/controlled/played by women?

Well the past has an effect on the future breh.


And when you add in things like the Crack epidemic of the 80's, the war on drugs that targeted black men by giving them harsh sentences for petty drug crimes, it really gets fukked up. We lost a whole generation of black people from that.

 

[Sierra Mist]

I mean it's been broken down. shyt is generational and cultural. The only way to fix it would be to kill the culture, which no one wants to do. People are scared to do it for some reason.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

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oh yeah the past and some if it cause challenges in current situations...

and thats why you gotta rebound upward

the past is not now, now is not tomorrow, tomorrow is not the future

and its more reason to be vigiliant around cacs...and be less gaga goo around them, c00ns and cacs about!!!

some cacs cool some cacs not, but yall prolly act secondary to them...if its a Capoeira tactic - cool

keep thinking thats a dance...

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Seriously yall cannot be accepting of being pawned...
they took yall daddies from yall, definitely didnt give them hope - gave them d, and yall struggling for jobs, which aint paying what yall want, and yall happy to play the sidelines...be professional consumers...yalll aint recreating yall standards...yall saying - I is happy to bees the next fiddle...

upgrade yourself and your community.

 

[Darth Nubian]

You think finances are the reason why alot of dudes bolt when the hear "I'm preggo" though?

Some dudes are going to dip regardless. The rest aren't "Man enough to handle real life situations."

 

[Amy Traphouse]

I still don't understand the whole "mothers subtract fathers out the equation to gain welfare" thing. Where is this happening at? Are single parents being denied access to welfare because the other parent is present?

 

[HelgaPataki]

I still don't understand the whole "mothers subtract fathers out the equation to gain welfare" thing. Where is this happening at? Are single parents being denied access to welfare because the other parent is present?

in the past, (i don't know about the present) welfare was restricted to single parent homes. all black people were not on welfare, so it might have been a factor but it isn't the main reason why things are the way they are now.

 

[kevin arnold]

There are some really stupid ass posts in this thread

Jesus Christ