Black men, how did we allow this matriarchy in the black community?

[MeachTheMonster]

Like it has been pointed out before, the black community today is a lot beter off than it ever has been. It's easy to read books and think about how things were better in the past but truth is they were not. There was more crime, and poverty, highschool and college graduation rates were lower. And the overall quality of life for the average black person has improved.

Yes there are some problems that should be addressed. But all these feminism, emasculation, CIA conspiracy theories are just a distraction.

The problem is poverty. The more people we get out of poverty the better off we are.

 

[Mountain]

Ever since blacks got here, some among the white population have always sought to keep 'blacks in check' through numerous maneuvers, with this modern breed of feminism being one of the key precepts.

Feminism today isn't what the original discontented women intended it to be. It wasn't a movement to turn women into mini-men, but rather a movement to get women more rights such as allowing them to vote and allowing them to get into the workplace. This modern breed of feminism is attempting to completely destroy the concept of womanhood and create some sort of androgynous superclass, aka the 'matriarchy'. Feminism has went from attempting to procure women more rights to some sort of eclectic abomination of lesbianism, whoredom and procurement of benefits while avoiding repercussions.



In fact, feminism is partly CIA funded. Gloria Steinem, prominent feminist, was a CIA agent.

Read more here:




Modern feminism also teaches that promiscuity is some sort of liberating trait in a woman, as if it is some noble attempt to shatter a repressive double standard. The only reason this 'double standard' of sexuality exists is because women choose it. Men generally do not wish to marry and provide for promiscuous women. Women could easily make the same choice and not choose to deal with promiscuous men, but on the contrary, women prefer 'men with experience.' The whoredom element is proven via the 'slutwalks' and the proliferation of articles among the feminist community touting the 'liberation of female sexuality.' So essentially, we now have women who embrace pseudo masculinism via the lesbian element, embrace promiscuity and thus increasing the rate of out-of-wedlock children. Where this becomes particularly deadly is when we mix the government stepping in as dad element.

This concept of 'strong, independent woman' is derived from a CIA/government-sponsored version of feminism in which the necessity of a male is eliminated. Why is going to school and getting a decent paid job and being a productive citizen not looked upon by women as being a 'responsible woman' as opposed to an 'independent woman'? Obviously, there is the underlying agenda to remove the male influence from the family structure.

Those elites among the whites always field test on blacks before they take the program elsewhere. look at the Tuskegee experiments for one. They've found that one of the key ways to limit the power of a group of people is to destroy the family structure. In order to do that, you need to make the male disposable, which is what we essentially have today. The father is then replaced by the government, who then uses that role to disseminate whatever values and agendas they have. You don't want to get in line? Then daddy government will cut off the benefits. This is why government dependency is so dangerous.

The policy of male disposability is furthered by demonizing the men in the black community while placing black women in the spot of 'manhood'. Affirmative action gave black women a double helping, since they are essentially two minorities in one-- being black and being women. They will get a job way quicker than black men, as well as entrance into schools, etc. This leads to emasculation of the black man since he is no longer the provider. He isn't respected by his woman and thus he is unable to command authority in his home. To further see the concept of emasculation being targeted at blacks, just look at Dave Chapelle's Oprah interview where he discusses Hollywood attempting to make black men wear dresses in their roles. The government soon becomes the new daddy, and thus, authoritarian in the black community.

We see the disastrous results when we look at the statistics.



Now is this to show that women are irresponsible at raising children? Absolutely not. Rather, it is showing that a two parent household, with both father and mother, greatly increases the child's probability for success. God built men and women differently and gave us different roles. Each role attempting to play the role of the other-- the man attempting to be the woman and the woman attempting to be the man, is essentially a weak substitution for a critical element of societal success.

As I said before, they field test it on blacks and other minorities before they take it elsewhere. Now, the "plantation owners" of the world, aka globalists, are taking it to white communities, which is why you are seeing all of these movements such as 'men rights' and mgtow. It was ignored when it was a black issue, but now when whites are receiving what they gave, it's no longer a laughing matter.

It is essentially men who are the strongest enforcers of family values, the protector of the family, as well as the greatest dynamic force for social change. When you emasculate men and remove them from the family unit, you essentially get a passive, easily controlled populace, which is obviously what these globalists desire.

God damit Kev

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Ever since blacks got here, some among the white population have always sought to keep 'blacks in check' through numerous maneuvers, with this modern breed of feminism being one of the key precepts.
Feminism today isn't what the original discontented women intended it to be. It wasn't a movement to turn women into mini-men, but rather a movement to get women more rights such as allowing them to vote and allowing them to get into the workplace. This modern breed of feminism is attempting to completely destroy the concept of womanhood and create some sort of androgynous superclass, aka the 'matriarchy'. Feminism has went from attempting to procure women more rights to some sort of eclectic abomination of lesbianism, whoredom and procurement of benefits while avoiding repercussions.
In fact, feminism is partly CIA funded. Gloria Steinem, prominent feminist, was a CIA agent.
Read more here:
Modern feminism also teaches that promiscuity is some sort of liberating trait in a woman, as if it is some noble attempt to shatter a repressive double standard. The only reason this 'double standard' of sexuality exists is because women choose it. Men generally do not wish to marry and provide for promiscuous women. Women could easily make the same choice and not choose to deal with promiscuous men, but on the contrary, women prefer 'men with experience.' The whoredom element is proven via the 'slutwalks' and the proliferation of articles among the feminist community touting the 'liberation of female sexuality.' So essentially, we now have women who embrace pseudo masculinism via the lesbian element, embrace promiscuity and thus increasing the rate of out-of-wedlock children. Where this becomes particularly deadly is when we mix the government stepping in as dad element.
This concept of 'strong, independent woman' is derived from a CIA/government-sponsored version of feminism in which the necessity of a male is eliminated. Why is going to school and getting a decent paid job and being a productive citizen not looked upon by women as being a 'responsible woman' as opposed to an 'independent woman'? Obviously, there is the underlying agenda to remove the male influence from the family structure.
Those elites among the whites always field test on blacks before they take the program elsewhere. look at the Tuskegee experiments for one. They've found that one of the key ways to limit the power of a group of people is to destroy the family structure. In order to do that, you need to make the male disposable, which is what we essentially have today. The father is then replaced by the government, who then uses that role to disseminate whatever values and agendas they have. You don't want to get in line? Then daddy government will cut off the benefits. This is why government dependency is so dangerous.
The policy of male disposability is furthered by demonizing the men in the black community while placing black women in the spot of 'manhood'. Affirmative action gave black women a double helping, since they are essentially two minorities in one-- being black and being women. They will get a job way quicker than black men, as well as entrance into schools, etc. This leads to emasculation of the black man since he is no longer the provider. He isn't respected by his woman and thus he is unable to command authority in his home. To further see the concept of emasculation being targeted at blacks, just look at Dave Chapelle's Oprah interview where he discusses Hollywood attempting to make black men wear dresses in their roles. The government soon becomes the new daddy, and thus, authoritarian in the black community.
We see the disastrous results when we look at the statistics.
Now is this to show that women are irresponsible at raising children? Absolutely not. Rather, it is showing that a two parent household, with both father and mother, greatly increases the child's probability for success. God built men and women differently and gave us different roles. Each role attempting to play the role of the other-- the man attempting to be the woman and the woman attempting to be the man, is essentially a weak substitution for a critical element of societal success.
As I said before, they field test it on blacks and other minorities before they take it elsewhere. Now, the "plantation owners" of the world, aka globalists, are taking it to white communities, which is why you are seeing all of these movements such as 'men rights' and mgtow. It was ignored when it was a black issue, but now when whites are receiving what they gave, it's no longer a laughing matter.
It is essentially men who are the strongest enforcers of family values, the protector of the family, as well as the greatest dynamic force for social change. When you emasculate men and remove them from the family unit, you essentially get a passive, easily controlled populace, which is obviously what these globalists desire.

The problem with anything you ever post: none of it ever relies on logic, just feel good rhetoric that fails to touch the basis of anything.

How does feminism ever begin to even take over, if there are males who are running their homes/families in the first place?

How does women admitting they like having sex equate to this magical "lesbian element" you have contrived? How is liking sex (a human activity necessary for life) ever a masculine thing when both parties have to engage in the activity? That's wild homo to think that only men should be able to enjoy/like sex.

I guess the Black Panther Party was funded by Phi Beta Sigma because the founders were in that organization, correct?

Why (in your mind) do women suddenly began kick out their salary making husbands/partners for checks worth a couple of hundred dollars every month? How do you think that this benefits them economically? How do single women benefit by giving up salary makers for a couple of hundred dollars?

You do know that black men benefit the most from affirmative action when it comes to post-secondary education right?

The CIA magically implanted this idea of being an "independent women" in people's head and all black women just fell for it?

No one has emasculated men. If the power of men only existed because the power of women didn't exist, then men never had power, just leverage and a head start. If your power only exists because you're able to hold someone else down, you don't have power.

Kev.

I know you have me on ignore, but frankly, you are not intelligent, and anyone with an inkling of knowledge of history and common sense looks at your post like because they are very stupid and loosely tie together unrelated concepts through generalizations, no facts anywhere to be found that relate to each other.

You can post stats about fatherless children and homes all day, but how do things get that way? How did people become fatherless? Everything you type fails to touch on this subject matter in a factual way.

 

[Sierra Mist]

 

[boskey]

there were only a little over 30% of blacks on welfare in 1973 and only 10% in 1965....so throw that theory in the bushes please....

lol at black families choosing a welfare check over a father

Ridiculous...

 

[Taadow]

How does feminism ever begin to even take over, if there are males who are running their homes/families in the first place?

See the posts of Helga Pataki in here...

How does women admitting they like having sex equate to this magical "lesbian element" you have contrived? How is liking sex (a human activity necessary for life) ever a masculine thing when both parties have to engage in the activity? That's wild homo to think that only men should be able to enjoy/like sex.

You're putting too much on it. The bold was not said. What was said was that the Feminist movement led to women being more sexually open and/or wanton, because of the idea that men are more "free" sexually. It's one thing to try to do a thing that men (allegedly) do - it's quite another to try to be a man.

Why (in your mind) do women suddenly began kick out their salary making husbands/partners for checks worth a couple of hundred dollars every month? How do you think that this benefits them economically? How do single women benefit by giving up salary makers for a couple of hundred dollars?

"Giving up" implies that they had them. It's not that cut and dry.

You do know that black men benefit the most from affirmative action when it comes to post-secondary education right?

Ah, but as was said, black women are a "double minority". And who in these times reaches post-secondary education more: black women or black men?

The CIA magically implanted this idea of being an "independent women" in people's head and all black women just fell for it?

Everyone wants a measure of independence, so that's not a hard concept to grasp. It's not just "black" women, but all women, or anyone who feels like they should have more.

No one has emasculated men. If the power of men only existed because the power of women didn't exist, then men never had power, just leverage and a head start. If your power only exists because you're able to hold someone else down, you don't have power.

Nobody said the bolded, so I don't know where you got that from. However, manhood is under attack. I don't see how anybody can't see that.

 

[boskey]

Do ya'll seriously walk around every day of your lives feeling "emasculated" ..or is that just some internet shyt?

 

[DaChampIsHere]

I think that we should revert back to the egalitarian family structure that many areas of Africa had. We are all equal human beings, but equal does not mean we are the same. We should respect the differences between genders. Women wanting equality doesn't mean they want exactly what men have or that women gaining power will result in less power for men. I think we should learn to respect one another and ourselves.

I say this on here all the time, but people can't seem to grasp this concept on here. We can all be equal and play different roles. A leader and follower are equals because neither of them can exist in the capacity that they do with out the other. They are different but understand they are equal.

Please explain your ideas. This thing is deep.

*Long post*

I'm like a big film/documentary head (along with being very into sociology) and I saw this movie one day and it really made me look at the problems the black community was having in a completely different way.

After the Civil Rights movement, the black community is in a "good state", at least the black family is. Socially, we are connected. Civil rights movement "ends" in 1968. What big government sanctioned actions happens the next year?

1969 - The draft lottery of 1969. For what war? The biggest war the US has ever lost and knew they were going to lose but still kept fighting and sending troops anyway: The Vietnam War

Now, who is drafted at a much higher rate that any other racial group in America? African-American males. For the Vietnam war, though African-Americans made up only 11% of the US population in 1969-70, African-American males accounted for over 12% of the drafted persons. These are young men and men who have families as well. Men taken out of their communities after the biggest social movement the United States has ever seen. Men taken out of their community when they are needed the most.

What happens while these men are at war? They are sent to some of the worst areas in Vietnam. Areas where the causality rates are abnormally high when compared to their white counterparts. At this time, these men are also promised all of the benefits of fighting in this war (education, support, etc.). Do many of them get it? No. The ones that are left alive, are left to come back home, many of them miss out on their education benefits, suffer from severe mental problems with no help from the government and are basically discarded back into the community after 1973. Under the guise of patriotism and supporting their family and nation, black men were separated from their families and communities at a much higher rate than any race of people at the time.

Now, the other, what happens back home while the men are away? Of course these women begin to live their lives as single parents. With their husbands and partners dying at alarming rates, what do they turn to? Oh. of course, do I even have to say it?

But that's not all, what media movement in the black community hits the populace like wildfire while the men have been taken from the homes, the community is desolate of it's working class male structure, and when these same working class men return home? The direct year after 1970, the year where all of those drafted are sent to war what movement happens:

1971 - The Blaxploitation Era: The glorification of the pimp, the crime underworld, drug use, pre-marital sex, hypersexuality, promiscuity, the strong black women who fights crime and doesn't take shyt, all while backed by the too cool for school black man who is kickin' the man's ass and freeing his community, one honkey at a time. 1971 is the release of the first blaxploiation film, by Melvin Van Peebles "Sweet Sweetback's Bad Ass Song". The opening scene of the movie is a little boy having sex with a grown women.

Everyone loves it. It's the biggest thing across black America. Black boys who don't have fathers in their homes anymore are finding solace in the images of pimps and crime hustlers, who are fighting against "the man" with illegal and debaucherous activity as a financial support system. They begin to glorify the misogynistic imagery along with the flashy lifestyle of criminals. Women who don't have husbands, partners, fathers see these images of these "cool" black men who are also the leaders of their community, but none of these men have real jobs, they are not working class, they only seem to fight crime with crime and pimp women and be cool as hell while doing it. But this is the biggest thing in the black community and everyone loves it. They also love the overly sexualized images of black women, these same black women who also never commit to men in these movies, neither sex takes on partners for a family. And everyone loves watching and emulating it.

Who tries to fight against it? The NAACP. The NAACP and other black leaders fight hard against the blaxploitation media, but black people love it so much, they don't wanna give it up. In fact, the NAACP is shamed for trying to put black people out of jobs. They are shamed by people who believe any image of black people (good or bad) is better than no image. Try to speak down on the blaxploitation or say that you don't watch those movies, even today, black people will shame you. It does not take Hollywood that long to get involved. Within 1-2 years, Hollywood is buying up and financing much of the blaxploitation industry and painting their own images as well.

But what happens when the men come home from war (1973-1975)? Things aren't the same anymore. Working class men aren't honored anymore, by men, women, and children in the black community alike. I know y'all seen "Dead Presidents", who was feeding Anthony's family so his chick wouldn't have to go on welfare?

We made these images popular ourselves, and we took them in and gave them a home in our social connection to our communities. In a matter of 5-7 years, everything in the black community changes. The black community in allegiance, men and women, began to glorify the cool demeanor, sex, and crime, in the name of "revolution" and finally getting over on the white man.

Through the glorification of crime and misogyny in spite of warnings from black leaders and the like, black people (of all ages and both sexes) singlehandedly reversed the tone of their community to supporting derogatory images of men AND women as an antithesis to white American culture. This continues throughout the 70s. The love and admiration of crime, misogyny, hypersexuality, etc. continues on into the 80s through the drug and HIV epidemic, rap music, prison growth and the surge of crime rates

I'm gonna try to find this film and post it here. It was really good doc. It's mostly about the blaxploitation era, but it touches on how the draft unfairly took black men out the black community and how this genre of media stepped in right after and the NAACP and other's opposition.

 

[Taadow]

Do ya'll seriously walk around every day of your lives feeling "emasculated"

No, that's too strong of a word. The usage of that word is "internet shyt".

But, men of today are having more social pressure put on them than women are and that can be frustrating at times.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

To all you dudes on here talking this emasculated shyt. Are you out activly looking for a wife? Or just fukking bytches. If the problem is the man not being in the household to guide the women, then the solution should be to go get a woman and make a family with her. Why don't you do the right thing and get married as opposed to perpetuating the cycle of baby mommas.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

See the posts of Helga Pataki in here...
You're putting too much on it. The bold was not said. What was said was that the Feminist movement led to women being more sexually open and/or wanton, because of the idea that men are more "free" sexually. It's one thing to try to do a thing that men (allegedly) do - it's quite another to try to be a man.
"Giving up" implies that they had them. It's not that cut and dry.
Ah, but as was said, black women are a "double minority". And who in these times reaches post-secondary education more: black women or black men?
Everyone wants a measure of independence, so that's not a hard concept to grasp. It's not just "black" women, but all women, or anyone who feels like they should have more.
Nobody said the bolded, so I don't know where you got that from. However, manhood is under attack. I don't see how anybody can't see that.

I see nothing of the sort from her. Again, EQUAL does not mean anything else but that.

What's wrong with being sexually open, or people choosing what they want to do with their bodies? Again, we have men who want to be leaders, but don't want to set the example they want women to follow by. Having sex doesn't equal imitation manhood.

So you are saying that these fathers were never around? That implies a problem on both sexes, not just the women.

It doesn't matter who reaches more. The fact of the matter is, the system makes MORE adjustments and allowances for black men to succeed at the educational level than it does for black women. Black women also encounter a glass ceiling that black men don't seem to have the same problems with.

Is the concept of "independence" something that the CIA implanted though? That's the point your are missing. It's not some big conspiracy. People like doing things for themselves.

You didn't have to say the bolded. It's the underlying idea in your posts. Women have jobs/education/can have sex and they don't have to stay in the kitchen anymore and somehow you guys feel threatened and emasculated because you can't control anther human being. They have a right to choose and y'all don't like it.

I see it as only the strong surviving. Back in the day, weaker men could be hidden by the weakness of women. The shade has been pulled and only the strong are making it out.

 

[yeahisaidit]

@DaChampIsHere is dropping so much knowledge in here, but no one other than a select few will listen.

Let the black women bashing continue.

 

[intruder]

Look in the mirror

 

[CrimsonTider]

@DaChampIsHere

Is killing y'all,

 

[Will Ross]

It was easy for black women to take over because black men and women preety much been equal in everything in america.Hell the first black Millionaire was a woman if that does not tell you anything about the power black women had then what will?