Black New Yorkers clashing over who should get reparations as state panel starts

[HarlemHottie]

Yeah I really don't even understand why this is a "black" conversation and not an ADOS conversation and why a Nigerian or something like that has any more of a place in this discussion than a Mexican or a Chinese.


Who is inviting these folks and giving them decision power in these meetings? You might as well not even have the discussion if you're gonna frame it in a way that they're involved.

Tbf, the turn coat quoted in the article is probably ADOS, but she makes a living advocating for immigrants in a city where ADOS power has been depleted.

This is what yall have to look forward to. Be safe out here.

 

[Neuromancer]

Tbf, the turn coat quoted in the article is probably ADOS, but she makes a living advocating for immigrants in a city where ADOS power has been depleted.

This is what yall have to look forward to. Be safe out here.

Elaborate on this part. Do you mean this is coming to other states that are mainly ADOS or just for this state in particular?

 

[HarlemHottie]

Elaborate on this part. Do you mean this is coming to other states that are mainly ADOS or just for this state in particular?

I mean that wherever we live that's getting a huge influx of immigrants will have the same result. See: Cali.

There are virtually no cities/ states where ADOS political power is ascendant. We are all mostly living off the legacy of work done decades ago. Once the getting got good, we voluntarily let our once powerful institutions die and re-consolidated 'power' under the banner of the Democratic party (you could see this starting when former pastors and shyt started getting elected instead of businessmen).

 

[|r|e|a|d|]

Should be no debate, it’s for descendants of US slavery. Not for immigrants, sorry.

It's not that hard a concept US decendents the US owes, West indian decendents the Crown owes be it Brit, French, Spanish. How them mf'ers are managing to skate this argument is amazing.
The difficult part in my estimation is the continent because who colonized yo land? The atrocities Leopold pulled needs to be paid back in spades How do you account for economic warfare via IMF, world Bank etc? Multiple hands are complicit as it relates Africa's current condition & have benefited as a direct result of its exploitation. They all owe

 

[Amo Husserl]

A New York commission is now examining whether the descendants of slaves are entitled to reparations. Getty Images
However, a huge segment of New York’s black residents are not descendants of US slavery. In New York City alone, well over 500,000 people are Afro-Caribbean or African immigrants — more than 25% of the black population, census figures show.

But some New York black activists said California’s reparations package was too restrictive.

Bertha Lewis, head of the Brooklyn-based Black Institute, told The Post that reparations must be considered for all black residents, because they have suffered from decades of systemic racism resulting from slavery — even if they are not direct descendants of slaves.


“That’s a false narrative,” Lewis said. “I don’t give a f**k what California did.”

“You can’t just say, `only descendants of slaves from the South.’ Black people faced the effects of slavery — discrimination — simply because they’re black.”

People – The Black Institute

Bertha has worked tirelessly as an activist and community organizer for over 30 years. She is the former CEO and Chief Organizer of ACORN, an influential national organization that mobilized urban communities at the grassroots level, fighting for their needs for over 40 years. Bertha has fought for immigrant rights by advocating at the city, state and federal levels. She’s been an integral part of the low wage workers campaign to guarantee higher pay, paid sick days, and family leave. Bertha has worked with developers to create a landmark community benefits agreement to secure affordable housing, living wages, local hiring and training programs for the community. And most recently, Bertha has led the charge in advocating for Minority & Women-Owned Business Enterprises (M/WBEs) in New York City.

MARTIN: And there are groups like that. What do you think you do - will do that these existing groups do not do?

LEWIS: First of all, it's the wrong question because it doesn't have to - one is not an either/or situation. Those of us who are progressive, those of us who are on the left need to take a lesson from the right. No one think tank can do all of the research. We need a lot more. We need institutions all over. This is why I think the progressives and the left were so vulnerable to attack because we go, oh, we have one of those. Well, guess what? We need tens and hundreds of those.

I want to add to the voices that are progressive. I want to focus on black folks. I want to focus on our sort of new diversity so that all of the sort of intellectual information and the background doesn't just stay stagnant.

MARTIN: Tell me more about why you want to have a focus on the black folks per se, given that your previous work was in multiracial coalitions. In fact, ACORN was more about poverty.

LEWIS: Right.

MARTIN: So it wasn't about race. It was more about low income than it was about race.

LEWIS: Exactly.

MARTIN: Tell me why you feel that there's a particular need to focus on African-Americans or black folks, as you said, because you're not specifically saying...

LEWIS: Black folks. You know, black - I come from a generation where we had to just take that term and wrestle with it and redefine it for ourselves. But I do have to say, for me, coming out of the troubles from 2008 through 2010, it was a very profound experience. We talked a lot about how ACORN was the canary in the mine.

We kept trying to tell folks there's a new sort of wave in town. You ought to be conscious of it, because if they come for us in the morning, they're going to come for you at night. And we did organize low and moderate income folks. It just so happens that over our 40 years, period of time, most of those folks - and the reality is - most of those folks that are poor and struggling - the working poor, are people of color.

We are becoming, so they say, a majority/minority country. That is, we are going to be a majority black and brown country. And you know what? I'm sick and tired of black folks being sort of an appendage. What is good for black America is good for all of America.

Comparison:

 

[HarlemHottie]

Comparison:

They talk different, but accomplish the same goal.

 

[Phitz]

Are you referring to the people who left the U.S post civil war or during Jim Crow to head to the Caribbean or Africa? My best friends family did that.

both, and WWI and WWII veterans who had children around the globe

they are spread out throughout Caribbean, Africa, and Europe, and many still have their US paper work/documents

 

[Art Barr]

nikkas in the Midwest let a cac be their best rapper

This is cap.
A eight mile lie.

nikkaz fronted and acted like they were the papa doc after eight mile. Then fronted like they were on eminem level. Then never said who was better than eminem. While all being inferior to eminem acting like they were emcees.


Eminem had been defeated. You goofie ass nikka never supported.
Then tried to lie and make a flaug narrative.
that they were the guy.
as good as eminem and it was and still is a eight mile.




Art Barr


Sincerely ...

fukk y'all

 

[O.G.B]

Tariq Nasheed is a paid actor who purposely caused an online rift between black people to dismantle reparations

Shut your goofy ass up bytch nikka! If you're not a FBA, then you shouldn't get reparations from the U.S. government.

 

[RamsayBolton]

The more I learn about the myriad ways we're targeted and target ourselves the more I'm convinced that there isn't anything that's going to significantly change our outcomes in this devil's country.

 

[MostReal]

why is there a fight over this??? lineage based or nothing...

Correct
Race will automatically make this a non qualifier, something cacs are betting on. Would get tossed out the courts.
Lineage is the only way this works

 

[Mike809]

I always wonder , should African Americans that were re-located to places such as Liberia or Samana , Dominican Republic
qualify for this as well ?

 

[MostReal]

This shouldn't even be a debate. If you're a Black American Descendant of enslaved people in America then America owes you. The end. Not immigrants, not just black people.

They purposely making it harder than it really is

 

[MostReal]

Black ppl never had a problem with Africans or West Indians until his tether bs

We still don't have a problem with them.
We just don't understand how they want to impede us from getting reparations

 

[UpNext]

Tbf, the turn coat quoted in the article is probably ADOS, but she makes a living advocating for immigrants in a city where ADOS power has been depleted.

This is what yall have to look forward to. Be safe out here.

Pan Africanism must have really elevated the status of ADOS black people in New York City over the last 100+ years to be willing to bush the plight of your lineage over it. Like there must be a lot of progress made through Pan Africanism to be willing to crash out like this for it.