Black People need to dead this "P.O.C./Intersectionality" bullsh1t.

[King Kreole]

lol foh

The issues that people think should be addressed aren't Black male centric.

If you believe that black women and the unique, distinct issues they face should be receiving just as much attention as black men and the issues we face, congratulations, you're an intersectionalist!

Attempting to flatten the black community into a single race based mass obviously has deleterious consequences for those inside our community who are actively being marginalized. It's literally the same as when ignorant whites say "We're all one people. All lives matter." It's an ignorant thing to say because a certain subset, black people in that case, is being targeted and abused at a higher rate than the others. So to say "We're all just black." and not give any consideration to the certain subset of us who are experiencing disproportionate levels of harm or marginalization from the other subset is a brutal act of ignorance.

 

[Poitier]

If you believe that black women and the unique, distinct issues they face should be receiving just as much attention as black men .

name these '' Black male centric'' issues getting unequal attention.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Most BW who aren't idiots aren't crying about gender specific issues.

Its a certain sect promoting sectarianism

I agree and disagree. There is cry for gender-specific issues...but its not to the extent of a feminazi no. I just think there's a certain level of dismissiveness we direct at black women as it pertains to what is important to them. I don't think we can advance without solving that. That is my stance.

 

[King Kreole]

So basically i wanna fight white supremacy and the black woman wants to fight me first?
Not only that, even tho we're both black and oppressed, she won't help me fight white supremacy unless we resolve our intra-racial issues first?
Even tho white supremacy is the reason we have these issues in the first place?

You expect others to drop a significant part of their identity to join a movement in which you don't have to forego anything? If asked to join hands with economically oppressed whites to combat the brutal economic oppression, would you so easily drop your race based concerns?

Racist Poor Cac:

So basically I wanna fight class inequality and the ****** wants to fight me first?

Not only that, even tho we're both poor and oppressed, he won't help me fight class inequality unless we resolve our intra-class racial issues first?

Even tho class supremacy is the reason we have these issues in the first place?

 

[Lana del Rey]

Silence as a church mouse ghetto gaggers ho. You aint shyt

What's your issue nikka?? You come in every thread talkin crap about black women. You ain't shyt and you'll never be shyt. You call me a bedwench but made a thread complaining about white pornstars not having sex with black men. You're a hypocrite and you're trash. Don't quote me again bytch nikka

 

[Mugenight]

Sounds good...............It's bullshyt but it sounds good.


lol I learned a long time ago that it's me vs everyone else.

This is something you learn early in the hood if you paid attention to your surroundings.

But never the less I have plans that would without a doubt benefit my people if one of my own doesn't kill me first.

 

[godkiller]

What's your issue nikka?? You come in every thread talkin crap about black women. You ain't shyt and you'll never be shyt. You call me a bedwench but made a thread complaining about white pornstars not having sex with black men. You're a hypocrite and you're trash. Don't quote me again bytch nikka

The issue is that you're a dumb ghetto bytch. @Poitier , @1984 and the rest of posters all exemplify and restate the same opinions here. So if you don't like the Coli and poster sentiments, get the fukk outta here and stop stalking people like a disgruntled hoodrat. Nobody cares that some moronic ho doesn't like what is said about black women. Whether I commented on white porn stars once is irrelevant and has no bearing on the fact you're an aint shyt gargoyle bytch. I'll continue keeping my foot on the neck of you c00ns.

You probably wish you were the girl in your avatar because even though she's ugly, at least she's better-looking than you.

 

[EndDomination]

Any idea of black progress that fails to give at least equal space to black women is illegitimate. The idea that black women do not face unique and pressing issues within the black community that deserve to be heard and addressed immediately is laughable. It's literally, literally the same maneuver we condemn white people for doing to black people. People crowing about divineness is honestly dogwhistle bullshyt. Black people have been told for generations to pipe down because speaking out is divisive. There is nothing divisive about bringing the issues our sisters face to the forefront as well. I mean, do you not at least give pause before you consider the optics of telling black women to wait their turn, we'll get to their problems later? In 2016? Telling black women that they have to choose between the socialized oppression of race and the domestic (and socialized) oppression of gender is antithetical to black progression, and the reason intersectionality is a critical concept. I'll be goddamned if I hand my daughters a world where they have to make that distinction because their fate is in the hands of a movement controlled by black men. And the idea that black women's progression is automatically tied to black men's progression is belied by both history and current facts. Black women have revoltingly high rates of intra-racial domestic violence and sexual assault perpetrated against them, and all we have to say to them is "we'll get to that later, trust us, the ones who are predominantly doing it to you." We treat our women like shyt, and they don't have the same socially ingrained protections that white women have. So no, it's not race above all when your concept of "race" has an ingrained gender hierarchy. Bringing the historically shunned perspective of women to the foreground is only destructive if you're misogynist. Just like I wouldn't fight for a gender equality movement that disparages and marginalizes race, I wouldn't fight for a race equality movement that disparages and marginalizes gender.

@Poitier

 

[Poitier]

name these '' Black male centric'' issues getting unequal attention.

 

[Lana del Rey]

The issue is that you're a dumb ghetto bytch. @Poitier , @1984 and the rest of posters are exemplify and restate the same opinions here. If you don't like the Coli and poster sentiments, get the fukk outta here and stop stalking people like a disgruntled hoodrat. Nobody cares what you think. Whether I commented on white porn stars once is irrelevant and has no bearing on the fact you're an aint shyt bedwench. I'll keep my foot on the neck of you c00ns.

Wow. You are one dumb nikka

 

[godkiller]

Wow. You are one dumb nikka

Only an imbecile would stay on a forum like this whose every opinion she disagrees with --- and complain forever about said posters and forum like she is obligated to be there. As you can see most of the dudes in this thread agree with me. In your mind we all "crap" on black women. OK, so what the fukk are you still here?

 

[King Kreole]

name these '' Black male centric'' issues getting unequal attention.

It's not that the issues being combatted are solely affecting black men, it's that the unique issues that black women have (exposure, gendered violence, ceilings, biological health, etc) are not constituted in generality. Due to the patriarchal foundation of our society, women's issues have been placed in a sphere separated from general societal issues. So unless specifically addressed, it's easy to make the mistake and thing that "general" includes them. But it doesn't. Which is why there is a need for women's organizations in a way that there isn't a need for men's organizations. Men are automatically included. This is just like how black people have been placed in a sphere outside what constitutes "general society", prompting movements and special efforts to centralize black issues. The backlash to what I'm saying is analogous to whites who say "How come there is no White History Month?" Fish don't know what water is.

But again, if you believe that black women and black men are and should be given equal space to promote the issues that affect them in unique ways, all under the banner of black progress, then you don't have a problem with intersectionality theory.

You don't believe society targets and abuses black people at a higher rate than most other racial groups?

 

[godkiller]

@Poitier

I already replied to @King Kreole's argument. He is essentially restating the same cac and feminist argument. Please go read the rest of the thread.

 

[Poitier]

It's not that the issues being combatted are solely affecting black men, it's that the unique issues that black women have (exposure, gendered violence, ceilings, biological health, etc) are not constituted in generality. Due to the patriarchal foundation of our society, women's issues have been placed in a sphere separated from general societal issues. So unless specifically addressed, it's easy to make the mistake and thing that "general" includes them. But it doesn't. Which is why there is a need for women's organizations in a way that there isn't a need for men's organizations. Men are automatically included. This is just like how black people have been placed in a sphere outside what constitutes "general society", prompting movements and special efforts to centralize black issues. The backlash to what I'm saying is analogous to whites who say "How come there is no White History Month?" Fish don't know what water is.

Breh, quit the flowery language and name these '' Black male centric'' issues getting unequal attention

You don't believe society targets and abuses black people at a higher rate than most other racial groups?

Read that wrong. Thought you were implying there was a significant difference in violence faced by the genders.​

 

[godkiller]

It's not that the issues being combatted are solely affecting black men, it's that the unique issues that black women have (exposure, gendered violence, ceilings, biological health, etc) are not constituted in generality. Due to the patriarchal foundation of our society, women's issues have been placed in a sphere separated from general societal issues. So unless specifically addressed, it's easy to make the mistake and thing that "general" includes them. But it doesn't. Which is why there is a need for women's organizations in a way that there isn't a need for men's organizations. Men are automatically included. This is just like how black people have been placed in a sphere outside what constitutes "general society", prompting movements and special efforts to centralize black issues. The backlash to what I'm saying is analogous to whites who say "How come there is no White History Month?" Fish don't know what water is.

The patriarchy issues and those thereof are paramount to women's specific issues (many of which are imaginary and created to divide), which all of white history shows to accessory and not necessary to racial advancement. Feminism in a black context at best takes away from and at worst destroys black advancement. This is all which matters.

But again, if you believe that black women and black men are and should be given equal space to promote the issues that affect them in unique ways, all under the banner of black progress, then you don't have a problem with intersectionality theory.

I believe both black men and women should be given equal and ample opportunity to express their opinions (which is already the case), and that those opinions should be evaluated critically. Divisive feminist issues have hence been evaluated critically and under scrutiny most of these issues fall apart as little more than divisive, bitter, counterproductive and anti-black initiatives. The few legitimate women's issues are being worked on and considered by the zeitgeist as we speak, but these will better themselves as black people do.​