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i speak clearly so you can understand.
puts WORDS, together like letter man.
now that's dictation.




So when I roll on you rappers, you better be Ready
to die because you're petty
You're just a butter knife, I'm a machete
That's made by Ginsu, wait until when you
Try to front, so I can chop into
Your body, just because you try to be basing
Friday the 13th, I'ma play Jason





Greatest rap song ever. Those internal rhyme schemes were so ahead of the times. :banderas:





Just give yourself a break
or someone else will take
Your title
namely me, cause I'm homicidal
That means murder
cause I'm about to hurt a-
Nother emcee, that try to get with me
 

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So when I roll on you rappers, you better be Ready
to die because you're petty
You're just a butter knife, I'm a machete
That's made by Ginsu, wait until when you
Try to front, so I can chop into
Your body, just because you try to be basing
Friday the 13th, I'ma play Jason





Greatest rap song ever. Those internal rhyme schemes were so ahead of the times. :banderas:





Just give yourself a break
or someone else will take
Your title
namely me, cause I'm homicidal
That means murder
cause I'm about to hurt a-
Nother emcee, that try to get with me


Imo, it is the best debut visual appearance of any rapper in history.
If raw and set it off were not on vinyl before this. I would say it is the best debut rap song ever made. Yet it came out after those on vinyl.


Art Barr
 

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RIP Lil Poop.

Am i doin it right? I'm tryna fit in, pay my respects to whatever garbage white rapper just passed. I aint care about them colored rappers that been dyin, just the one white rapper whose name all up in the media.
 

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They want this to happen so bad.

They don't want lyrics/ with substance to be your key to success, because it wouldn't be as easy to replicate.

So this swag rap, vibe swing thing is going on...White people can copy that easier and not sound as corny.....
this era of flows over lyrics doesn't suit whites at all
white rappers can emulate 'real hiphop' to a certain degree, emulating the likes of future is impossible for them.
 

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Like I always say when this subject comes up...this only happens because the bar has been set so low in rap.

There is no quality control...and the average fan only care about a good trap sounding beat & auto tune.

Bars are considered lame these days.

That leaves shyt wide open for anybody wanting to capitalize off of rap.
as much as cats may hate it, budden was a very lyrical cat when he was rapping. He had bars for days, but he just colossal in the street over dumb shyt and opening his mouth.
 

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i think what happened with rock and roll was unique. white people were very early to it - i'm only aware of a handful of real rock and roll singles (i.e. not jump blues or electric blues like muddy waters) being released before the likes of bill haley and elvis appeared on the scene. bill haley recorded a cover of jackie brenston's "rocket 88" (one of the first rnr songs) just a few months after it came out in 1951 and sun records released "that's all right" by elvis in 1954.

the beastie boys are the closest analog to elvis in hip hop. they were relatively early (first single in 83 and blew up in 86) and were one of the genre's first major commercial successes, but they never really "took over" and there weren't any significant non-one hit wonder white rappers until eminem.

there are definitely way more big white rappers now and like blizzard man pointed out, there's basically a whole lane for corny white rappers that exists completely outside the culture. hip hop is becoming more white or sure but i don't think black artists will be erased.... though it does seem that media and culture are so diffused now that you can't really control anything :unsure:
anyway, check this shyt out. raw guitar playing on a gospel record from 1948 :ohlawd:

 

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house and techno was always regional in the USA so if you didn't live in Det, Chi, NJ, NYC etc...you as a "black" person probably weren't even fully aware of the origins. The thing is, the white who love the music since the 80s are fully aware that it's "Black" music

i recall seeing a chicago dj in a documentary (this one i think) saying that when they first went to england they were surprised how much people loved the music, because house music really wasn't that popular outside of their city.

i'm a big (underground) house head and while people respect the legends and know the origins i still feel that there's some lowkey racism in the scene. you can go through some big underground labels' releases and find zero records by black producers :patrice:and that just wasn't happening until the 2000s.

country does have "african/black" roots but blacks made "blues" and then whites added their nasal style and made "country"



i think it's a little more complicated than that. black musicians in the south definitely played at least a little bit of country or "hillbilly" music back in the day. if you were a traveling musician or played at parties you had to know all sorts of songs and styles. here's an example (timestamped):

 

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this era of flows over lyrics doesn't suit whites at all
white rappers can emulate 'real hiphop' to a certain degree, emulating the likes of future is impossible for them.

I disagree. This flow shyt is like all kids coming up singing nursery rhymes...You can train yourself for that by surrounding yourself with those different bops and cadences....You see how some of these white kids being sounding like they from the hood. That shyt is copied.

To me, hip hop is at it's best when it has a soul. That unexplainable shyt that you feel. It's rare for a white artist to have that. When they try, it typically comes off whiny, forced, or disingenuous. Even Em has trouble with that aspect of the art.

So if the system get's that soul out of hip hop...Or makes it less lucrative to pursue music of that quality.... then it makes it even for other none black creators...And it makes it more likely that black creators will gravitate to the art from a watered down, easily, consumable stand point.
 
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This is the dumbest shyt ever. Black rappers are going extinct and yet post malone and the cash me outside girl are your main examples? foh with this dumb bullshyt.
 
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