Black Therapists talks about her patients and accountability.

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Professional people should not be speaking about clientele like this

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’m really surprised she made this video

She’s about to get slaughtered

That woman is a professional. She shouldn't be concerned about what some birds are squawking about on Twitter.

 

[DonRe]

You know how few people have the ability/emotional maturity to do this?

@B86 right.

I dont think you know how few ppl have the emotional maturity, like the psych said, to even entertain the thought. Much less utilize that tool consistently.

Its a struggle even with me. I take more accountability at work than in my personal relationship. Why? When my wife is 1000 times more important than the avp i report too. I cant directly say.

But its a thing. And i have to constantly remind myself everyday to be bout it.

 

[The Fade]

"Happy Wife, Happy Life"
"The Woman is Always Right"

These are just a few "Mantras" that reflect the topic at hand.

Anyone denying that a Lot of Woman (Not All) have a problem with apologizing isn't being honest.

Also the Therapist mentioned "Women", NOT Just Black Women.

I got a GANG of Sisters, been in a bunch of relationships, worked as manager over multiple teams of Men and Women.
Women on average, seem to have a harder time admitting fault.

A lot of Women are "Emotional" thinkers, so even if they are "Technically Wrong" on something...
They often still "Feel Like They are Right".

So if someone "Feels" like they were in the "Right", EVEN if the facts say different,
then they probably WON'T Apologize.

I know multiple couples that went to therapy for relationship issues (Black, White Etc...).

AS SOON as the therapist suggests that the Woman, has to make some changes, or may not be correct on something...

Then the Woman, no longer wants to go to that particular therapist.

Women also often "Fall Out" with each other, for BEING HONEST with each other.
I've seen it TOO Many times.

Also telling a Woman "Everything She Wants To Hear", is the reason why Clowns like "Derrick Jaxn" are so "Popular".

So glad I didn’t come up on that side of the community

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

Where the other therapist that lost her job and went nuts and started talking about doing an onlyfans?

 

[Uachet]

Twitter is not the place for this discussion. The limit on time does not allow a discussion to be had that covers enough of the nuances to understand the issues. If she wants to really have a conversation about this, she should write about it, get it published in journals, and perhaps do research to see if there is any objective data to support her experience and anecdotal evidence. Perhaps get the conversation going among therapist on this, if it is a real issue that all of them are experiencing. Just making a short video and then it being posted on Twitter only throws fuel on the gender war fire, but does not actually help resolve what may be a disconcerting issue.

Now, do I disagree with her experiences. No, but my agreement with her experience still does not mean that her manner of exposing it is the correct manner in which to do this, especially considering how she is a professional therapist and should know how throwing that possible truth bomb out in the open will only cause more contention instead of resolve it. So, if she suffers the same consequences that the other therapist suffered, then I will consider that just her receiving equal treatment to her.

 

[BiggWebb79]

 

[Black Magisterialness]

"Happy Wife, Happy Life"
"The Woman is Always Right"

These are just a few "Mantras" that reflect the topic at hand.

Anyone denying that a Lot of Woman (Not All) have a problem with apologizing isn't being honest.

Also the Therapist mentioned "Women", NOT Just Black Women.

I got a GANG of Sisters, been in a bunch of relationships, worked as manager over multiple teams of Men and Women.
Women on average, seem to have a harder time admitting fault.

A lot of Women are "Emotional" thinkers, so even if they are "Technically Wrong" on something...
They often still "Feel Like They are Right".

So if someone "Feels" like they were in the "Right", EVEN if the facts say different,
then they probably WON'T Apologize.

I know multiple couples that went to therapy for relationship issues (Black, White Etc...).

AS SOON as the therapist suggests that the Woman, has to make some changes, or may not be correct on something...

Then the Woman, no longer wants to go to that particular therapist.

Women also often "Fall Out" with each other, for BEING HONEST with each other.
I've seen it TOO Many times.

Also telling a Woman "Everything She Wants To Hear", is the reason why Clowns like "Derrick Jaxn" are so "Popular".

I just want to address a few things about this post for the sake of discourse. I'm not saying you're "wrong". But there's so much accepted shyt that we just say and it has nothing to do with the inherent nature of men vs women. I've got sisters and an ass load of female cousins I grew up with as well. I been around all the stuff you're saying.

1. Women are not "emotional thinkers" that's a myth. Women are TAUGHT that their emotions are just as valid as their logic. Some times MORE valid than their logic. So that's what they prioritize. Men are not taught the same way. There are plenty of pragmatic, logical women on earth because they were taught that their minds are just as valuable as their hearts. WE enforce those weird as norms onto our children.

2. The lack of accountability extends from childhood. Think of all the time your sisters were antagonizing you or they were doing something wrong. Now you may have yelled at them or shoved them away. And the reaction most young boys get is "don't talk to your sister like that" or "she's a girl you don't react like that." So we're already teaching girls that they have different rules from boys. "I can mess with him and he can't do anything because I'm a girl" sorta stuff. There are inverses to this in terms of boys having different rules too. This is why calling your daughters "little princess" and whatnot can actually be damaging if you aren't doting on your boys the same way.

3. Men are taught to battle over resources (money, jobs, status). Women are conditioned to battle over MEN. This is why there is an inherent mistrust. Not to mention it's a patriarchal hold over that removes certain blame from men. But because men, traditionally, were the breadwinners and masters of a woman's status & destiny, women will denigrate others to appear more viable to men. Even now with that being not as much of an issue, women still have these problems. Doubly so for black/brown women because now they are battling over scarce resources as well.


None of these things have to do with "how men are" and "how women are" it's just weird ass enforced gender norms that we can't let go of.
The ONLY true gender norm IMO is anything that pertains to physical labor. Yes, me and my brother lifting a couch is going to be more efficient than my girl and her sister. Other than that, it's all made up bullshyt.

 

[Ty Daniels]

I just want to address a few things about this post for the sake of discourse. I'm not saying you're "wrong". But there's so much accepted shyt that we just say and it has nothing to do with the inherent nature of men vs women. I've got sisters and an ass load of female cousins I grew up with as well. I been around all the stuff you're saying.

1. Women are not "emotional thinkers" that's a myth. Women are TAUGHT that their emotions are just as valid as their logic. Some times MORE valid than their logic. So that's what they prioritize. Men are not taught the same way. There are plenty of pragmatic, logical women on earth because they were taught that their minds are just as valuable as their hearts. WE enforce those weird as norms onto our children.

2. The lack of accountability extends from childhood. Think of all the time your sisters were antagonizing you or they were doing something wrong. Now you may have yelled at them or shoved them away. And the reaction most young boys get is "don't talk to your sister like that" or "she's a girl you don't react like that." So we're already teaching girls that they have different rules from boys. "I can mess with him and he can't do anything because I'm a girl" sorta stuff. There are inverses to this in terms of boys having different rules too. This is why calling your daughters "little princess" and whatnot can actually be damaging if you aren't doting on your boys the same way.

3. Men are taught to battle over resources (money, jobs, status). Women are conditioned to battle over MEN. This is why there is an inherent mistrust. Not to mention it's a patriarchal hold over that removes certain blame from men. But because men, traditionally, were the breadwinners and masters of a woman's status & destiny, women will denigrate others to appear more viable to men. Even now with that being not as much of an issue, women still have these problems. Doubly so for black/brown women because now they are battling over scarce resources as well.


None of these things have to do with "how men are" and "how women are" it's just weird ass enforced gender norms that we can't let go of.
The ONLY true gender norm IMO is anything that pertains to physical labor. Yes, me and my brother lifting a couch is going to be more efficient than my girl and her sister. Other than that, it's all made up bullshyt.

I actually said:

A lot of Women are "Emotional Thinkers".

I'm very careful with the words I say, I know plenty of "Logical" Women.

I also know SOME "Logical Women", that abandon that logic when an issue of personal accountability surfaces (I know Men like this too).

The "Hows" And "Whys" are important, yes.

But from my personal experience, it has been like "Pulling Teeth" to get Many/SOME (NOT ALL) Women to apologize, or even admit that "They Were Wrong" about something.

I'm ONCE again, not saying "All Women"

 

[Neuromancer]

I agree but I think there’s a big difference with how some of these social media therapists speak at/about black male clients compared to their black female clients. She was fairly gentle in her analysis compared to the past few therapists who have aimed these same claims at black men with much more inflammatory language.

Very interesting point. Not one I think anyone will care about but still.

 

[Roger king]

I have seen the script played out before it will be black mens fault and blame

 

[Gloxina]

Will be an interesting thread. The obvious question: why are we quick to accept generalized statements from therapists when we agree, but throw a fit when we disagree? I don't support this anymore than the weird shyt that has been said about black male patients. I don't want to hear medical professionals discussing anecdotal evidence. It's unprofessional.

Agreed.

We've had several threads of therapists saying the same things about men and these dudes ran in there with their feelings hurt.

Here it go let the gender wars begin. When will these therapists understand. Keep your opinions about your clients to yourself.

I just want to address a few things about this post for the sake of discourse. I'm not saying you're "wrong". But there's so much accepted shyt that we just say and it has nothing to do with the inherent nature of men vs women. I've got sisters and an ass load of female cousins I grew up with as well. I been around all the stuff you're saying.

1. Women are not "emotional thinkers" that's a myth. Women are TAUGHT that their emotions are just as valid as their logic. Some times MORE valid than their logic. So that's what they prioritize. Men are not taught the same way. There are plenty of pragmatic, logical women on earth because they were taught that their minds are just as valuable as their hearts. WE enforce those weird as norms onto our children.

2. The lack of accountability extends from childhood. Think of all the time your sisters were antagonizing you or they were doing something wrong. Now you may have yelled at them or shoved them away. And the reaction most young boys get is "don't talk to your sister like that" or "she's a girl you don't react like that." So we're already teaching girls that they have different rules from boys. "I can mess with him and he can't do anything because I'm a girl" sorta stuff. There are inverses to this in terms of boys having different rules too. This is why calling your daughters "little princess" and whatnot can actually be damaging if you aren't doting on your boys the same way.

3. Men are taught to battle over resources (money, jobs, status). Women are conditioned to battle over MEN. This is why there is an inherent mistrust. Not to mention it's a patriarchal hold over that removes certain blame from men. But because men, traditionally, were the breadwinners and masters of a woman's status & destiny, women will denigrate others to appear more viable to men. Even now with that being not as much of an issue, women still have these problems. Doubly so for black/brown women because now they are battling over scarce resources as well.


None of these things have to do with "how men are" and "how women are" it's just weird ass enforced gender norms that we can't let go of.
The ONLY true gender norm IMO is anything that pertains to physical labor. Yes, me and my brother lifting a couch is going to be more efficient than my girl and her sister. Other than that, it's all made up bullshyt.

 

[Neuromancer]

Agreed.

We've had several threads of therapists saying the same things about men and these dudes ran in there with their feelings hurt.

We know this hurt your feelings.

 

[Jean Jacket]

She's opening a can of worms by creating a bias that a potential client can call her out on.

Social media for therapists should be strictly informational in nature.

She should save this discussion for her peer groups in CEU meetings.

 

[FTBS]

There are two types of people who go to therapy:
1. People who want a justification for unacceptable behavior.

2. People who legitimately want tools to help them better understand themselves and how they can improve.

Disagree about #1. You dont need therapy to do that and a good one wont participate. I'd put "people that are forced" in that spot.