Blacks In IR Gotta Realize They Are No Longer Part Of The Black Community

[JahFocus CS]

Well I personally do not have any other options...sorry. The black men (in my age group) in my area are on a no black women diet.

Yes, I like white men because they are the men who consistently express interest in/pursue me. The black men that I encounter do not. Its hard to desire men who have little/no interest in me and I can not apologize for it.

I am sorry to hear this. But I know there are some Hispanic men at least in SoCal/AZ

(just noticed we don't have any Latino smilies )

 

[godkiller]

All fine and dandy, I'm not approving the behavior at all, but we need context here. Please show the same passion though in your posts with these Afrikan men in IRs w/ WW since that is the bigger demographic phenomenon.

My explanation for the phenomenon doesn't imply any normative judgment. Yeah, in the case of the Aztecs, it was their brutality against other Native nations that gave those nations an impetus to side with the Spanish. Wrong move but the grievances were already established from Aztec transgressions.

It does not matter why the division happened, all that mattered is that it did and the enemies of the Natives twisted that division to their advantage. Humans are but animals. If one animal What the Natives' example shows is that division among peoples is never a good decision regardless of what the motivation is. The Natives' reasons for division were obviously far more serious and pronounced than anything gender-related, but the effect is there for all to see.

You can't only foster respect and love when faced with an external threat. That's like having an abusive household in which the father beats the mother and abuses and molests the kids and then expect those contradictions to just magically disappear when shows up to settle some business with the father. Respect and love need to be principles we adhere to for their own sake. They are worth having as principles and instead of wasting time debating this obvious shyt, we could focus on the cac system instead (furthermore by fostering love and respect within the community, that already undermines the cac system)

It is entirely possible to foster respect and love when faced with an external threat. The Israelis created Israel under these same auspices and die for it everyday with the same notions. We should all adhere to love and respect--and many do. The assertion that blacks don't love or respect each other is just racist. Obviously black Americans should just do more. Ultimately they must.

 

[Canon]

. One has been going on for much longer and much more frequently than the other, and the other is in part a reaction to disrespect and underappreciation.

this is bullshyt

 

[JahFocus CS]

Another thing is that Afrikan women should not have to subsume their womanhood within their Blackness. That is, they shouldn't have to choose between being Black and being a woman. They shouldn't be asked to drop the fight against patriarchy and misogyny to fight racism as Black men alone see it (through a patriarchal lens).

intersectionality y'all, read up on it

 

[GiGi]

I am sorry to hear this. But I know there are some Hispanic men at least in SoCal/AZ

(just noticed we don't have any Latino smilies )

The men who approach me about 85-90% of the time are white. I am approached by Latinos but not as often here in AZ as I was in CA (don't know why though). Black guys usually either look/admire then keep it moving or completely ignore me. Sorry but that is my personal reality. But with white guys they flirt, approach, chat me up in stores/restaurants/at work (currently dating one of the managers) etc. etc., and ask me out on a weekly basis.

And I see it over and over in my area. Black men do NOT want black women. Only Mexican or white. I NEVER see young black couples EVER...or very rarely.

 

[Canon]

Another thing is that Afrikan women should not have to subsume their womanhood within their Blackness. That is, they shouldn't have to choose between being Black and being a woman. They shouldn't be asked to drop the fight against patriarchy and misogyny to fight racism as Black men alone see it (through a patriarchal lens).

intersectionality y'all, read up on it

 

[Timeis$]

Well I personally do not have any other options...sorry. The black men (in my age group) in my area are on a no black women diet.

Yes, I like white men because they are the men who consistently express interest in/pursue me. The black men that I encounter do not. Its hard to desire men who have little/no interest in me and I can not apologize for it.

I am not the right "type" that black men who actually do like black women prefer. I am brown skinned (product of a light skinned father and brown skinned mother), natural hair (APL), college educated with an advanced degree, in-shape (yoga, pilates, etc.) with slender shape (big boobs and small behind) and dress in flirty bohemian style. Nope....not their type.

If you're being legit and sincere I'm sorry to hear that.

But those men don't represent all black men. From what you described I know plenty of black men that be attracted to you.

But you gotta stop the hate and just let it go. Also maybe try relocating. I know dudes from college that live and or from California and most of them do date non black women. Maybe try moving somewhere else like Texas or Atlanta I think you'd get more play from black men there.

 

[JahFocus CS]

YES here we go again because you wanna do the cacs work by trying to delegitimize the struggles of Afrikan women.

 

[Canon]

YES here we go again because you wanna do the cacs work by trying to delegitimize the struggles of Afrikan women.

come in here with this feminist bullshyt talking bout im doing cac's work

 

[missyleebunny]

We live in a white supremacist culture and women are still viewed as status symbols by many.

To be a white woman adds perceived value if you adhere to white supremacist ideals (admittedly or not).

Attraction is mostly about perceived value.

You guys place too much emphasis on looks.

You have Christina Milian looking chicks out here getting passed over for no other reason than they're not white. That should say something.

But these same chicks will cross over to white men because they will have their unique beauty appreciated and white men don't believe the hype about whiteness like other men do. The upper echelon of white men are used to the upper echelon of white women, and many of them become bored.

Simple really.

 

[GiGi]

If you're being legit and sincere I'm sorry to hear that.

But those men don't represent all black men. From what you described I know plenty of black men that be attracted to you.

But you gotta stop the hate and just let it go. Also maybe try relocating. I know dudes from college that live and or from California and most of them do date non black women. Maybe try moving somewhere else like Texas or Atlanta I think you'd get more play from black men there.

Yes, I am being very honest and straightforward about this because some of you guys think that some of us who date white guys are doing it because....

a) we think white men are "better"
b) we hate ourselves
c) we hate black men
d) fill in the blank

...but the truth is that there are a LOT of black men in certain areas of the country who believe that non-black women are "better" options and have completely stopped dating/having relationships/marrying black women. There are a LOT of really attractive black women that work at my company and the vast majority of them are either ignored by the black guys (for Mexican women) or have given in to the advances from the white men....or are alone. There are numerous white men/black women couples at my company (plus other white men with black wives that do not work for the company)

And it is not easy to pick up and move when a person has family obligations, career commitments, other investments in a community, etc.

So I really do resent the bed wench comments and the accusations of hating black men, etc. because it means that black men do not have to look at their part of the equation in the matter.

 

[TMNT4000]

Bull-Fukkin shyt.

Maybe it's because I'm fairly liberal spot but I'm seeing a LOT more pretty ass black chicks, dating white men. Not chicks built like Instagram models but pretty ass, in-shape black women.

Were not just talking about one spot, were talking about overall.

Would we see a pretty ass black chick date out, yes, but the large majority who date out is average at best.

 

[Timeis$]

Yes, I am being very honest and straightforward about this because some of you guys think that some of us who date white guys are doing it because....

a) we think white men are "better"
b) we hate ourselves
c) we hate black men
d) fill in the blank

...but the truth is that there are a LOT of black men in certain areas of the country who believe that non-black women are "better" options and have completely stopped dating/having relationships/marrying black women. There are a LOT of really attractive black women that work at my company and the vast majority of them are either ignored by the black guys (for Mexican women) or have given in to the advances from the white men....or are alone. There are numerous white men/black women couples at my company (plus other white men with black wives that do not work for the company)

And it is not easy to pick up and move when a person has family obligations, career commitments, other investments in a community, etc.

So I really do resent the bed wench comments and the accusations of hating black men, etc. because it means that black men do not have to look at the part of the equation in the matter.

Damn .

I don't think Gigi is playing yall.

All black men DO NOT hate black woman. I prefer black women above anything. If you say no black dudes approach you then I don't know what to say other than what I said before which is move . I know you'd get play in texas, dc, or atl. As long as you weren't talking shyt to black dudes .

But I wish the best for you. Even though I'm a still when you generalize all black men.

 

[GiGi]

We live in a white supremacist culture and women are still viewed as status symbols by many.

To be a white woman adds perceived value if you adhere to white supremacist ideals (admittedly or not).

Attraction is mostly about perceived value.

You guys place too much emphasis on looks.

You have Christina Milian looking chicks out here getting passed over for no other reason than they're not white. That should say something.

But these same chicks will cross over to white men because they will have their unique beauty appreciated and white men don't believe the hype about whiteness like other men do. The upper echelon of white men are used to the upper echelon of white women, and many of them become bored.

Simple really.

I do believe that there is a lot of truth in your post.

From personal experience, I notice that there are a LOT of successful middle aged/older white men who are looking for (or are open to) black partners after their 1st marriages ended.

 

[GiGi]

Were not just talking about one spot, were talking about overall.

Would we see a pretty ass black chick date out, yes, but the large majority who date out is average at best.

But according to whose standard of what is beautiful?