Blacks In IR Gotta Realize They Are No Longer Part Of The Black Community

[mrken12]

Believing in patriarchy - an oppressive system which devalues women and subjugates them - has plenty to do with c00nery when Black women are victims. Patriarchy has nothing to do with being a strong man. Oppression doesn't equal strength.

Discussions like these show why identity politics in and of themselves are doomed and don't present any real solutions, because they don't deal with the real issues. You're not gonna sit there and type some BS about how racism is a serious issue but sexism/patriarchy isn't. All oppressions are serious issues and need to be addressed. They are also linked via the economic system.

How do black men benefit from patriarchy that gives us an advantage over black women? Name some examples.

 

[13473]

does it really matter for a black woman.

date black, get no protection. date white/asian, get no protection.
seems like you guys have supported a system where black women have nothing to lose

 

[JahFocus CS]

Every race of women experience that. But when black women experience it, those feminist groups don't do shyt. Where were the feminists during the Reneisha McBride story? Or when black women were getting assaulted by police officers? Or the cop who raped a bunch of black women? Like I said, race first.

And what concerns are you talking about?

Yeah, the issues are tied together! That's what I said above about intersectionality. Black feminists were all over the Renisha McBride issue (read blogs like For Harriet, Madame Noire, etc. - they are great and would help show you a different perspective, even if you disagree [as I do on occasion] with some things they post). But the feminist movement has historically splintered along racial lines because race as a contradiction in society touches basically everything. But so does gender. And they interact and affect things in different but related ways.

So it's not "race first" because even in the Black community, state violence against Black women gets brushed under the rug. We know the names of plenty of Black men who get killed by state forces but how many names of Black women who were killed do you know? The same value isn't placed on Black female life.

Granted, Black men are stigmatized as threatening in a unique way. But that uniqueness doesn't ERASE the experience of Black women.

The concerns I'm talking about revolve around degradation ("bytches," "hoes," "sluts," etc.), negative attitudes regarding the attractiveness of Black women, high rates of IR relationships by Black men, violence against them being brushed under the rug, etc.

 

[Timeis$]

Gigi and Chris B are trolls. Gigi isn't even a woman. Don't take what that person says seriously.

Nah I think they're both extremely hurt and have low self esteem.

Gigi talks crap on black men all the time. But she finally slipped up and said basically she wants to date black men but can't attract them.

I mean let's be honest. A black women in California with all the Eva Longorias, Drayas, Lucy Lui's, Kim Kardashian that is dark skin and afrocentric isn't getting that much play from black men and you know it . Gigi is one of those women who went off the deep end and because of that developed a hatred for black men and now dates whites.

She doesn't believe a black guy would want her. That's sad to me .

 

[mrken12]

Yeah, the issues are tied together! That's what I said above about intersectionality. Black feminists were all over the Renisha McBride issue (read blogs like For Harriet, Madame Noire, etc. - they are great and would help show you a different perspective, even if you disagree [as I do on occasion] with some things they post). But the feminist movement has historically splintered along racial lines because race as a contradiction in society touches basically everything. But so does gender. And they interact and affect things in different but related ways.

So it's not "race first" because even in the Black community, state violence against Black women gets brushed under the rug. We know the names of plenty of Black men who get killed by state forces but how many names of Black women who were killed do you know? The same value isn't placed on Black female life.

Granted, Black men are stigmatized as threatening in a unique way. But that uniqueness doesn't ERASE the experience of Black women.

The concerns I'm talking about revolve around degradation ("bytches," "hoes," "sluts," etc.), negative attitudes regarding the attractiveness of Black women, high rates of IR relationships by Black men, violence against them being brushed under the rug, etc.

Violence against women is swept under the rug for every race. And black feminists are a joke. They are tools of white supremacy. And enough with the "bytches" and "hoes" talk. That's a universal problem. Stop repeating propaganda and form your own thoughts and stop caping for some man hating lesbians who don't even like your black ass.

 

[mrken12]

Nah I think they're both extremely hurt and have low self esteem.

Gigi talks crap on black men all the time. But she finally slipped up and said basically she wants to date black men but can't attract them.

I mean let's be honest. A black women in California with all the Eva Longorias, Drayas, Lucy Lui's, Kim Kardashian that is dark skin and afrocentric isn't getting that much play from black men and you know it . Gigi is one of those women who went off the deep end and because of that developed a hatred for black men and now dates whites.

She doesn't believe a black guy would want her. That's sad to me .

No they're trolls.

A black woman who posts about how much she hates black men and loves white men at a board full of black men.

A black man who brags about how many white women he gets but also makes extremely c00nish comments like about how slavery was a blessing in disguise.

100% trolls.

Both of them are full of shyt. Especially Gigi with the .

 

[JahFocus CS]

Violence against women is swept under the rug for every race. And black feminists are a joke. They are tools of white supremacy. And enough with the "bytches" and "hoes" talk. That's a universal problem. Stop repeating propaganda and form your own thoughts and stop caping for some man hating feminists who don't even like your black ass.

We're not all gonna make it and posts like this show it.

Let me ask you, what do you think is the central contradiction in society?

 

[godkiller]

Believing in patriarchy - an oppressive system which devalues women and subjugates them - has plenty to do with c00nery when Black women are victims. Patriarchy has nothing to do with being a strong man. Oppression doesn't equal strength.

Discussions like these show why identity politics in and of themselves are doomed and don't present any real solutions, because they don't deal with the real issues. You're not gonna sit there and type some BS about how racism is a serious issue but sexism/patriarchy isn't. All oppressions are serious issues and need to be addressed. They are also linked via the economic system.

Patriarchy exists and has always existed. Arguing against it is like arguing against the sun rising tommorrow. If one form of patriarchy falls, another simply rises in its place. Therefore arguing against a world without patriarchy is unrealistic, fruitless and a waste of time. It makes no sense to talk about a world with using air as fuel, like society without patriachy. Talking about such nonsense is not "discussing the real issues or real solutions". It's like politicians and the government. The trick is to pick the most manageable and conducive patriarchy to best advantage. For blacks, that is black patriarchy. There is no such thing--nor has there ever been--anything resembling a society where patriarchy does not rule and have power. Patriarchy is human power refined and is what men respect. And what men respect matters because men are the killers and murderers in this world. You must make the next men respect you - and a society full of weak kneed, soft belly bytch men inspires fear in none.

You are wrong to say "all oppressions are serious issues and must be addressed". Some oppressions are more serious than others (i.e. slavery before absolute wage equality) and one does not have a milennia to fix them all. One must prioritize that which must be fixed and pick wisely what one wishes to work on. As respects patriarchy--like capitalism--there is both good and bad, but like capitalism, patriarchy is a must.

If there is a problem with the black patriarchy, it is that the patriarchy and its patriarchs are not strong, educated, wise, hard-working, etc enough.

 

[Draje]

Were not just talking about one spot, were talking about overall.

Would we see a pretty ass black chick date out, yes, but the large majority who date out is average at best.

And? That's due to more location than anything else. An overwhelming amount of the black population is struggling financially and they're typically segregated from Brad's and Todd's because we're all put into a single location.

You know all those bed wenches we call out? There's a reason they don't act like typical hood rats and we see the In them.

Attractive black women are attracted to white men, don't be fooled. They might not get approached as much due to white insecurity (She's hard to handle, they like the BBC, etc) but that does not mean they ain't attracted.

This idea that white men only get ugly or average black women is as false as the idea that black men only get white leftovers.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Patriarchy exists and has always existed. Arguing against it is like arguing against the sun rising tommorrow. If one form of patriarchy falls, another simply rises in its place. Therefore arguing against a world without patriarchy is unrealistic, fruitless and a waste of time. It makes no sense to talk about a world with using air as fuel, like society without patriachy. Talking about such nonsense is not "discussing the real issues or real solutions". It's like politicians and the government. The trick is to pick the most manageable and conducive patriarchy to best advantage. For blacks, that is black patriarchy. There is no such thing--nor has there ever been--anything resembling a society where patriarchy does not rule and have power. You are wrong to say "all oppressions are serious issues and must be addressed". Some oppressions are more serious than others (i.e. slavery before absolute wage equality) and one does not have a milennia to fix them all. One must prioritize that which must be fixed and pick wisely what one wishes to work on. As respects patriarchy--like capitalism--there is both good and bad, but like capitalism, patriarchy is a must.

Again, we're not all gonna make it and this post is proof. Now we're saying patriarchy and capitalism are natural systems and unchangeable.

Sound familiar? Same logic and rhetoric cac racists used during slavery, colonialism, and segregation

Y'all make the cacs go

Who needs cacs as enemies when you have c00ns doing such a good job?

 

[godkiller]

Again, we're not all gonna make it and this post is proof. Now we're saying patriarchy and capitalism are natural systems and unchangeable.

I said patriarchy is natural, unchangeable and necessary. I only mentioned capiytalism in light of the fact patriarchy is necessary. Capitalism isn't necessarily unchangeable or natural and I never said do. Mixed capitalism is, however, a better system that anything else ever devised. If you have better economic systems, please provide them.

Sound familiar? Same logic and rhetoric cac racists used during slavery, colonialism, and segregation

Not exactly, and besides, people use the same logic for all sorts of issues including national medical plans, energy, etc. It does not help to waste time on things which are immutable parts of the human condition.

Y'all make the cacs go

Cacs hate miliancy, black nationalism, virtually all pro black shyt. So they won't be doing any smiling. Black patriarchy is at odds with white patriarchy. There can only be one on top after all.

Who needs cacs as enemies when you have c00ns doing such a good job?

Ahh but I champion the patriarchy which blacks have held for a milennia and which has been weakened and cast aside by white supremacy and patriarchy in America. You, on the other hand, champion white patriarchy and feminist bullshyt, because that is all your naive conjecture will lead to.

 

[Timeis$]

Patriarchy exists and has always existed. Arguing against it is like arguing against the sun rising tommorrow. If one form of patriarchy falls, another simply rises in its place. Therefore arguing against a world without patriarchy is unrealistic, fruitless and a waste of time. It makes no sense to talk about a world with using air as fuel, like society without patriachy. Talking about such nonsense is not "discussing the real issues or real solutions". It's like politicians and the government. The trick is to pick the most manageable and conducive patriarchy to best advantage. For blacks, that is black patriarchy. There is no such thing--nor has there ever been--anything resembling a society where patriarchy does not rule and have power. Patriarchy is human power refined and is what men respect. And what men respect matters because men are the killers and murderers in this world. You must make the next men respect you - and a society full of weak kneed, soft belly bytch men inspires fear in none.

You are wrong to say "all oppressions are serious issues and must be addressed". Some oppressions are more serious than others (i.e. slavery before absolute wage equality) and one does not have a milennia to fix them all. One must prioritize that which must be fixed and pick wisely what one wishes to work on. As respects patriarchy--like capitalism--there is both good and bad, but like capitalism, patriarchy is a must.

I feel you man.

But I just feel like so many little black girls have low self esteem because they don't feel as beautiful as other races. Yeah it's about self esteem but who is going to cherish black women if black men don't . Yeah they should grow up confident but they don't due to white supremacy. Black men no doubt have the worst struggles but having self confidence especially when it comes to masculinity isn't one.

A lot of them are on that bullshyt but I think most of these bitter or angry black women were hurt little girls from seeing their femininity be put on the back burner for insert any other race of women.

Black men patriarchy I agree we must led. But I want to led as a king and have my black queen by my side.

It's late I'm emotional ..

 

[Just like bruddas]

Here comes that strawman. Right on time. @Willstyles you have competition.

he right though, i mean most of yall just dont like black women. Same nikkas that pop shyt about black women dating whites are the same ones running screaming pawg and pretty turning a blind eye to black men thats dating outside their race.

Bed wenching on here is used more than bed buck. Geez I wonder why

 

[godkiller]

I feel you man.

But Iul just feel like so many little black girls have low self esteem because they don't feel as beautiful as other races. Yeah it's about self esteem but who is going to cherish black women if black men don't . Yeah they shod grow up confident but they don't due to white supremacy. Black men no doubt have the worst struggles but having self confidence especially when it comes to masculinity isn't one.

I feel you bruh I feel you - and I agree. I said the same thing a little while ago, but you'll notice you said the culprit is white supremacy, not black patriarchy. So black patriarchy itself should not be attacked. When you live in a country that near 80% another group and you're poor as shyt with pressure coming from everywher,e you're going to have trouble reconciling yourself. But black American men and women should be trained--brainwashed (since white supremacy will brainwash them all the same)--to love each other more. The patriarchy must be more connoted and integrated with peoplehood and black love so that the three concepts are inseparable. There must be no more equivocation and no more bullshyt. There must be propaganda, since people will be programmed anyway. I encourage black love and female empowerment all the time. What do you think I argue about

 

[godkiller]

Yeah, the issues are tied together! That's what I said above about intersectionality. Black feminists were all over the Renisha McBride issue (read blogs like For Harriet, Madame Noire, etc. - they are great and would help show you a different perspective, even if you disagree [as I do on occasion] with some things they post). But the feminist movement has historically splintered along racial lines because race as a contradiction in society touches basically everything. But so does gender. And they interact and affect things in different but related ways.

Those sites are just anti-black man rag sites. They are full of delusional wenches - and several female posters have said so. They aren't even feminist so much as worship bullshyt. Feminism is bullshyt and irrelevant outside of equal rights discussion, which females already have. If it mattered so much, cacs wouldn't have come to rule the world without it. shyt has become counterproductive. It's demagoguery and division of the first degree like Native American's mistake. If black patriarchy was strong enough, that shyt would be whistling in the wind.

So it's not "race first" because even in the Black community, state violence against Black women gets brushed under the rug. We know the names of plenty of Black men who get killed by state forces but how many names of Black women who were killed do you know? The same value isn't placed on Black female life.

You can't be male reciting this bullshyt. Black men are far and away the most victimized by state violence. We know black male names because they're far and away most of the victims. Females are often--not always--given free passes by law enforcement. That is an aspect of female privilege. Black female state violence is nowhere near the incidence level of black men. That is a fact.

Granted, Black men are stigmatized as threatening in a unique way. But that uniqueness doesn't ERASE the experience of Black women.

No one ever said anything erases anything else, but it is clear black men suffer worst in many ways. Anyone who says otherwise is intellectually dishonest.

The concerns I'm talking about revolve around degradation ("bytches," "hoes," "sluts," etc.), negative attitudes regarding the attractiveness of Black women, high rates of IR relationships by Black men, violence against them being brushed under the rug, etc.

Degradation happens everywhere; there are negative attitudes about all kinds of female's appearances; black males marry black females at very high rates, we hope for more; there is violence in every group, etc. Just a bunch of bullshyt from you. Be part of the solution, not the problem.