blacks praising Adele = blacks praising a white Jesus?

[Don Jesus]

If she spent less time mad at Adele and more time promoting whatever the fukk she wants then she might get something done.

Idk why people keep assuming this is a girl. Dudes aren't fans of r&b?

And you have poor comprehension skills for thinking that he's mad at Adele. He's mad at the agenda behind it, not the artist. It's not rocket science. Dismissing those tweets as "oh he's mad" is what you nikkas do every time someone refuses to fall for the bullshyt. It's like it's uncool to be awhere of the agendas behind most things. No one likes a fake deep fake woke nikka that has no plans to improve the things he complains about. understandable. But nothing he said is fake deep. It's a simple and in your face explanation of the state of r&b. And not that it really matters but the dude who tweeted that shyt is in music marketing or some shyt (he's vague with what he does) and he's hugely knowledgable about urban music and the business from the things I've seen him tweet so I'm 75% the nikka isn't just complaining about some shyt he isn't willing or attempting to fix

But let y'all tell it, he's "angry" and "trying too hard to be different

Two stupid umbrellas terms you nikkas use to define any kind of attempt at analysis that makes sense

 

[MrPentatonic]

being angry at the music industry is a waste of time & energy

 

[MF budz]

Idk why people keep assuming this is a girl. Dudes aren't fans of r&b?

And you have poor comprehension skills for thinking that he's mad at Adele. He's mad at the agenda behind it, not the artist. It's not rocket science. Dismissing those tweets as "oh he's mad" is what you nikkas do every time someone refuses to fall for the bullshyt. It's like it's uncool to be awhere of the agendas behind most things. No one likes a fake deep fake woke nikka that has no plans to improve the things he complains about. understandable. But nothing he said is fake deep. It's a simple and in your face explanation of the state of r&b. And not that it really matters but the dude who tweeted that shyt is in music marketing or some shyt (he's vague with what he does) and he's hugely knowledgable about urban music and the business from the things I've seen him tweet so I'm 75% the nikka isn't just complaining about some shyt he isn't willing or attempting to fix

But let y'all tell it, he's "angry" and "trying too hard to be different

Two stupid umbrellas terms you nikkas use to define any kind of attempt at analysis that makes sense

well he needs to remember what industry he is in. There's an agenda with everthing. Or he needs to go and market some new r and b talent since he so concerned with it. But I'll let him cook and see what he comes up with.

 

[Vilhena]

Blame the labels not the artists. If labels tell you to make pop music you will do it.

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

 

[CrimsonTider]

This is what I don't get. You're calling out Black people for liking Adele's music, but then completely throw Beyonce under the bus. Then you prop up James Fauntleroy (who is more of a songwriter than he is a recording artist). All this boils down to is "I'm going to hate this popular artist and I'm going to use race to justify why you should hate them too. I also hate this popular artist because they don't make the type of music I feel they should be making, so I'm going to justify it by saying they make music that makes an entire race look bad. Last, here's an artist that I do like, but because the artists I don't like are popular, the artists that I do like remains underrated and overlooked".

Ghostwritten by me

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

You're being near sighted.

We don't own/control any of these mainstream outlets.

When a black "soul" artist is making great music they're not perceived with the same desire from middle America, the Erykah Badus, the Anthony Hamilton's, Soulchilds, etc etc.

To sit here and say we're simply not trying and that we're hurling empty complaints is not only condescending, but quite ridiculous.

Again, I bear no grudge to Adele but there are things aside from her music that make her "marketable" to middle America.

They not gonna hear you tho

Andra Day
Lianne Le Havas
Corinne Bailey Rae
Esperanza Spalding
Kelela
SZA
FKA Twigs
Jazmine Sullivan

I could go on and on. Hell, even Dawn Richards is making some really interesting r&b rn. None of it gets play or interest. People ignore them then say Black people aren't making good music so that's why they listen to 'cac soul.' fukk outta here

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

It's not race, it's marketing. Michael Jackson, a black man, made Thriller. That didn't sell?

Thriller sold in 1982! Is it 1982? You nikkas can't be this fukking stupid. Cacs realized all the money there is to be made in the type of music MJ was making on Thriller so now they're pushing their own versions. Same thing they did with jazz, rock, etc. There's a clear precedent of them infiltrating our genres and you stupid nikkas want to live with your heads in the sand.

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

But those top 3 or 4 Black hitmakers are not making what is deemed soulful music. Tyrese has probably made the most soulful song this year, I haven't heard it on a white station yet. In terms of Jill Scott, is she headlining a tour, or is she part of a package? Janet Jackson can't sell out arenas and they are changing dates for her tour. Black radio plays Jill Scott around here. Black artists have to go more pop in order to cross over and white artists have to sound more soulful to cross over, problem is, Black soul singers don't get played on white stations, unless its the oldies station. They play the fukk out of Al Green and Marvin Gaye.

If you're white, your music will get played on any station. People said the same thing about iggy. Her music got played on rap and pop stations. Adele's music gets played on soul, r&b, pop, bluegrass, AND folk stations. A Black person singing the exact same music would not get that crossover treatment.

Even Beyonce's last album was put in the Urban Contemporary category and not r&b OR pop.

And wtf is urban contemporary, anyway?

 

[DaddyTime]

They not gonna hear you tho

Andra Day
Lianne Le Havas
Corinne Bailey Rae
Esperanza Spalding
Kelela
SZA
FKA Twigs
Jazmine Sullivan

I could go on and on. Hell, even Dawn Richards is making some really interesting r&b rn. None of it gets play or interest. People ignore them then say Black people aren't making good music so that's why they listen to 'cac soul.' fukk outta here

Dude I was responding to actually said " if we're putting out trash and she (Adele) is making good product how can we be mad? "

Can't be bothered by true ignorance, all that was.

 

[CrimsonTider]

she aint lying though...

ya'll LOVE to profess your love for Badu & The goddes Jill Scott

but where's the support for their albums ??

This is flawed logic

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

Adele is a good singer.....I've said that before. What I don't like is how they make her the face of soul/rnb, declaring her Queen by default as if she doesn't have any artists in her realm that can hold a candle. Thats a problem and I thinks what ol dude was alluding too. Black folks crowning her should know better but they fall for the good ole white hype. Would much rather support Adele than the Solange's of the world.

But I think thats because majority of black folks are too lazy to go crate digging on places like soundcloud to discover indie soul/rnb acts. They'll rather be spoon fed, take's whiteys word of being told whats the hottest/greatest thing right now. Again, Adele is good singer but she's not the best making R&B/Soul right now. Adele being white is her cheat code for receiving more attention and accolades. If Adele was black, she wouldn't even make to Top 40 radio unless she made turn up party songs about popping her p*ssy, being wasted and passing out in a club bathroom stall at 2 am.

Rep

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

10-12 yrs ago somebody flawlessly executed the plan to completely marginalize R&B as a genre.

The 1st step was to fracture it by dividing it into sub-genres.
2. take the less pop/upbeat songs and slowly remove them from urban radio and onto Adult/Contemporary stations
3. give even more airplay to rap/r&b collabs
4. make hiphop the official genre of black people under the age of 35... which opened the door for...
5. pop artist with hiphop beats to get urban radio play which open the door for...
6. white pop artist who make adult contemporary/r&b-ish music to get called soul artist.

Its a cold world. The execs will say actual R&B doesn't sell, yet they'll call Sam Smith an R&B/soul artist . I just feel if the Elle Varners and Janel Monets got the same kind of promo/budget they'd be legit stars. The days of being a R&B star is just over and black music as a whole is worse for it.

Rep

 

[Stacker Pentecost]

I kinda don't agree when he says

"The "She's talented just enjoy the music it's not that deep" posse outweighs the thinkers. Almost like you have to counter-condition them"

Like I'm not stupid, I just enjoy music man. my parents used to have that old school soulful music on repeat everyday. One day on a long car ride my sister randomly got adeles first CD 19 (BEFORE she was an "industry plant") I was like
"who the fukk is this white bytch"

But then after a listen there were a few songs that had me like

I'm a huge music enthusiast, and I get what the man is saying but sometimes they really are just talented, and you should just sit back and enjoy the music and not think about it so much

Don't think brehs

 

[CrimsonTider]

are or aren't?

and the second highlighted is funny as shyt...

Thats a crock of shyt being as tho Jill Scott, Jazmyn Sullivan, Chrissette Michele, Melanie Fiona, Marsha Ambrosius and others have been signed and releasing music for years now. Black radio wont give them the push. They wait on the latest Tinashes to drop records.. White radio will push Adele tho... They pushed Amy.. When they get a unique artist with a VOICE. They push them...

All the people you name get played on R&B radio stations.

That music doesnt fit the urban contemporary hiphop stations anymore