Bleacher Report's Top 100 NBA Players of All-Time

[lib123]

Nah y’all Kobe fans gave a genuine illness What the hell are you even talking about.

‘Never sought white acceptance’ you gotta be young. Pre rape case Kobe was the cookie cutter media darling. And the most damning and actually hilarious thing especially for this site that irrationally idolizes Kobe and Nas is this:





Initially, Kobe was more disliked by black folk than white folk. He was seen as tryhard…but then he lost sponsorships and dropped the act and people fell in love with the blunt a$$hole Kobe, bc that’s human nature. See Trump lovers

Anyway RIP Kobe but long story short knock it off with the agenda shyt just bc you emotional, delusional fans get checked EVERY TIME a published list drops. He is NEVER ranked top 5 yet y’all keep putting him side by side with Jordan. Y’all are the problem.

Uh I’m speaking to why there were cacs who disliked Kobe. And what I said is true in the context of America. Many of them feel less comfortable with Black athletes don’t come from dysfunctional upbringings and aren’t on some tap dancing ish.

 

[lib123]

This is some hilarious revisionism.

No it’s not lol. A lot of white Americans don’t feel comfortable with Black athletes (and Black ppl in general) who don’t come from dysfunction and are confident in themselves.

But this doesn’t answer the question on why Magic is typically rated high on these lists if you think defense should be weighted in that manner when it comes to Steph.

Shouldn’t you also believe Magic shouldn’t be rated over elite/great defenders in the top-10?

Magic’s defense was never as much of a liability as Curry’s. That’s why it shouldn’t be held against him.

 

[Remote]

Uh I’m speaking to why there were cacs who disliked Kobe. And what I said is true in the context of America. Many of them feel less comfortable with Black athletes don’t come from dysfunctional upbringings and aren’t on some tap dancing ish.

Dude, the biggest Kobe stan on here is a Jew.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Dude, the biggest Kobe stan on here is a Jew.

Always remember

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

No it’s not lol. A lot of white Americans don’t feel comfortable with Black athletes (and Black ppl in general) who don’t come from dysfunction and are confident in themselves.

It is revisionism because there was certainly no overwhelming sense of dislike of Kobe from cacs during his formative years. As it’s been pointed out to you, the only real opposition to his image/personality came from Black folks thinking he was corny. I don’t care for whatever bullshyt ass generality you’re trying to revise history with.

That was not the perception white people had of Kobe back then.

You quite literally made that up.

Magic’s defense was never as much of a liability as Curry’s. That’s why it shouldn’t be held against him.

But you’re still insinuating Magic was a “liability” on that end, so why should he be ranked above great defenders? If you value defense in that manner, then you should be penalizing Magic too.

And for the record - GS has had top ranked defenses almost every single season in the Kerr era and Steph has managed to win 4 titles along the way, so however much of a liability you think he is on defense doesn’t correspond with reality.

 

[Remote]

Always remember

Dude I will never understand why anyone dismisses that championship.

Why doesn’t that count? Every team was on an even playing field. Did those Lakers somehow have an unfair advantage? How were they predisposed to winning in “the bubble”??

It was a neutral arena. You know what else is a neutral arena? Almost every Olympics basketball court.

Bashing the bubble ring makes zero sense.

 

[Sccit]

Dude, the biggest Kobe stan on here is a Jew.

HES TALKIN BOUT CACS.. THOSE THAT DESCEND FROM THE REDNECK, HILLBILLY VARIETY.. MOST OF THEM ALWAYS FELT THREATENED BY KOBE

JEWS ALWAYS LOVED KOBE .. LEBRON TRIED GAINING THE JEWISH FANBASE BY SUCKIN UP TO RABBI PINTO AND PUBLICLY DECLARING HIMSELF A ZIONIST.. BUT WE STILL ALWAYS FUCCED WITH KOBE WAY MORE.

 

[lib123]

It is revisionism because there was certainly no overwhelming sense of dislike of Kobe from cacs during his formative years. As it’s been pointed out to you, the only real opposition to his image/personality came from Black folks thinking he was corny. I don’t care for whatever bullshyt ass generality you’re trying to revise history with.

That was not the perception white people had of Kobe back then.

You quite literally made that up.

No I didn’t make that up. I know how cacs in America perceive Black ppl and Kobe wasn’t exempt of that. Just because they weren’t outwardly open about viewing him as uppity doesn’t mean he wasn’t viewed that way.

But you’re still insinuating Magic was a “liability” on that end, so why should he be ranked above great defenders? If you value defense in that manner, then you should be penalizing Magic too.

And for the record - GS has had top ranked defenses almost every single season in the Kerr era and Steph has managed to win 4 titles along the way, so however much of a liability you think he is on defense doesn’t correspond with reality.

Magic wasn’t a liability on defense overall. He could guard multiple positions and was even the league leader in steals for multiple seasons. Curry was never that and had to rely on a strong system to help hide his weaknesses.

 

[Primetime]

🏗 Criteria Summary:
Heavy weight on:
– Championship wins, especially with Finals MVPs
– MVPs, All-NBA, All-Defensive Teams
– Advanced stats (PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48, Game Score)
– Efficiency (FG%, eFG%, TS%)
– Playoff performance against elite (50+ win) teams
– Feats & records (e.g. scoring titles, triple-doubles, historic runs)

I asked ChatGPT to base it on the following, and they still put Kobe at #10 Personally I'd put Bird at #7, Kobe at #8, Steph at #9 and Hakeem at #10. God bless the dead but, it said to Bill Russell and Wilt.

Gil's Arena actually touched on this the day the list dropped. Gilbert is an idiot 50-66.67% of the time but I give credit for the perspective he gave in that segment, where he broke down the most likely criteria BR (and media members use) -which is a lot of what you asked OpenAi to compute- and educated the rest of the cast on it.

Basically said you can either make your list off emotion or criteria, and you can argue criteria but can't argue someone's emotion. i.e. if a criteria prioritizes MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles, and All-NBA First Teams as the 4 most important individual accolades, then yea Kobe's gonna be more fringe top 10. Even Kenyon -the biggest Iverson stan- admitted that sick to his stomach as he was to see AI outside of the top 30, based on criteria he couldn't say shyt even tho emotionally AI to him is top 20.

The collective issue they had with BR's list tho is that it doesn't prioritize defensive teams as strongly/consistently, specifically bc they felt Duncan should be ahead of Shaq and top 5 all time. Tho they also made the point that if you were to list all the defensive 1st team winners this year or in most years (esp compared to all nba 1st team names) you can see why defensive teams aren't held as highly. As a result, they also felt Russell there was a bit fugazi/inconsistent as well

Point is, based on the likely/provided criteria i mostly see why BR's list and even your Open AI's list is what it is. And everyone is free to come up with their own criteria, which is part of the fun imo... but not worth discussing if the criteria is emotionally charged (i.e. "PG is my GOAT, fukk u stat nerds!", etc)

 

[Sccit]

Dude I will never understand why anyone dismisses that championship.

Why doesn’t that count? Every team was on an even playing field. Did those Lakers somehow have an unfair advantage? How were they predisposed to winning in “the bubble”??

It was a neutral arena. You know what else is a neutral arena? Almost every Olympics basketball court.

Bashing the bubble ring makes zero sense.

 

[Sccit]

 

[NotAHotep]

And you believe this?

 

[Sccit]

🏗 Criteria Summary:
Heavy weight on:
– Championship wins, especially with Finals MVPs
– MVPs, All-NBA, All-Defensive Teams
– Advanced stats (PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48, Game Score)
– Efficiency (FG%, eFG%, TS%)
– Playoff performance against elite (50+ win) teams
– Feats & records (e.g. scoring titles, triple-doubles, historic runs)

I asked ChatGPT to base it on the following, and they still put Kobe at #10 Personally I'd put Bird at #7, Kobe at #8, Steph at #9 and Hakeem at #10. God bless the dead but, it said to Bill Russell and Wilt.

INTERESTING

HERES WHAT CHATGPT GAVE ME WHEN FACTORING ACHIEVMENTS AND COMPETITION DEFEATED

1. Michael Jordan​

• 6× Champion | 6–0 in Finals | 5× MVP
• Dominated both ends | 10 scoring titles | 9× All-Defensive
• Most complete resume: stats, accolades, killer instinct

2. Kobe Bryant​

• 5× Champion | 2× Finals MVP | 12× All-Defense
• Most 50-win teams defeated in playoff history (~27)
• Peak competitiveness & skillset; led tough playoff gauntlets
• Underrated as a closer and two-way player

3. Tim Duncan​

• 5× Champion | 3× Finals MVP | 2× MVP
• Defensive anchor for 2 decades | ~22–23 50-win teams defeated
• Cool, efficient, and always showed up in big moments

4. Magic Johnson​

• 5× Champion | 3× Finals MVP | 3× MVP
• Greatest floor general ever
• Led Lakers to 9 Finals in 12 seasons

5. Larry Bird​

• 3× Champion | 3× MVP (in a row) | 2× Finals MVP
• Cerebral assassin on offense
• ️ Shorter career, but his peak was elite and efficient

 

[Sccit]

And you believe this?

I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE A LOT OF PLAYERS WERE MENTALLY CHECKED OUT IN THE BUBBLE

 

[In The Zone '98]

Openly admit you don't care about winning