Yes he was....They was 1A and B and he was drawing the most outside of DLH...He had a right to ask for blood tests...
and looking back we know why he was asking for it
Bob Arum....AGAIN stops Mayweather/PacMan
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Yes he was....They was 1A and B and he was drawing the most outside of DLH...He had a right to ask for blood tests...
and looking back we know why he was asking for it
Or Brandon Rios...
Or Chris Algieri ...
Or Marquez for the xth amount of times....
I dont wanna see those fights again
JerseyFinest!
All Star
Manny basically does what Arum tells him homie
if tomorrow Arum says lets take that 70-30 deal, you think manny going to say No lets hold out for something better
dude just goes with the flow
I think Manny was on some type of enhancing drug
and if he was Im pretty sure Arum was the orchestra behind it
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Floyd/Hatton did under a million in the US.. Floydie retires for two years comes back and
Yes he was....They was 1A and B and he was drawing the most outside of DLH...He had a right to ask for blood tests...
and looking back we know why he was asking for it
Floyd/Marquez drew barely a million buys.. Floyd didn't even have a belt at 147 by then
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.4 million, and Pac became ww champ
Tell me again how Floyd was A side during those 09 negotiations?
O.T.I.S.
The Monk & The Mercenary
He was definitely A-side... Just more so now
And he agreed to everything Manny asked for, including the spilt. He only asked for additional drug testing
And trying to flip it like Floyd has the position to DEMAND the amount of blood/urine they take from Manny
Like Floyd wasn't subjected to the same testing... And now every fighter since then has GLADLY accepted the full blown drug testing just to fight Floyd. When did Msnny start... After the Rios fight, right?
And let's not ignore this important fact... The fight would've happened almost 8 years ago if Manny had accepted the random drug and urine testing. What type of fighter wouldn't want to accept that
Black_Jesus
Superstar
He was definitely A-side... Just more so now
And he agreed to everything Manny asked for, including the spilt. He only asked for additional drug testing
And trying to flip it like Floyd has the position to DEMAND the amount of blood/urine they take from Manny
Like Floyd wasn't subjected to the same testing... And now every fighter since then has GLADLY accepted the full blown drug testing just to fight Floyd. When did Msnny start... After the Rios fight, right?
And let's not ignore this important fact... The fight would've happened almost 8 years ago if Manny had accepted the random drug and urine testing. What type of fighter wouldn't want to accept that
Floyd/Hatton did under a million in the US.. Floydie retires for two years comes back and
Floyd/Marquez drew barely a million buys.. Floyd didn't even have a belt at 147 by then
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.4 million, and Pac became ww champ
Tell me again how Floyd was A side during those 09 negotiations?
O.T.I.S.
The Monk & The Mercenary
Like Manny wasn't the one taking it
You basically want to sit here and say that Manny is innocent to all this bullshyt and unaware what goes into his body and I'm going to say I don't believe that. Manny could've agreed to do the drugtesting and signed his name on that contract.
Stop pretending like Manny doesn't have ANY say in what happens in his boxing career
O.T.I.S.
The Monk & The Mercenary
I'm not going to go through the number with you, but Pac wasn't A-side...Floyd/Hatton did under a million in the US.. Floydie retires for two years comes back and
Floyd/Marquez drew barely a million buys.. Floyd didn't even have a belt at 147 by then
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.4 million, and Pac became ww champ
Tell me again how Floyd was A side during those 09 negotiations?
And what part of it not having to do with Money did you not understand. Manny made his requests and Floyd accepted. Floyd made his requests and Pac denied. Floyd ADJUSTED his requests, and they were still denied...
But that's not suspect to you... Right
And basically you're saying that Floyd was B-side to Manny now...
Is he not giving Pac the biggest pay date of his life? Even after coming off fighting a god damn kick boxer no one heard of?
I think Pac fans need to look at the big picture
30-40m (by far his biggest pay for a fight)
35% ppv of the LARGEST ppv boxing event in the history of boxing (and i doubt it will ever be broken) That alone could come close to his 30-40m as well
The tiny chance of beating mayweather... now think about that... You think mayweather will go out like that? Guaranteed remach, ball is in Pac's court, even more money, if he loses and they go 1-1 ANOTHER guaranteed rematch..
In the end you could be talking 50-75m for 1 fight if he loses and possibly 250m+ for pac for 3 fights if he wins the first one.
Why should Mayweather do anything else? He's the biggest draw, hes the undefeated one, he is the one that has everything to lose, Pac literally has nothing to lose at this point.
JerseyFinest!
All Star
Like Manny wasn't the one taking it
You basically want to sit here and say that Manny is innocent to all this bullshyt and unaware what goes into his body and I'm going to say I don't believe that. Manny could've agreed to do the drugtesting and signed his name on that contract.
Stop pretending like Manny doesn't have ANY say in what happens in his boxing career
It's not about him having a say, it's obvious he's taken the stance of letting Arum handle all of his business and whatever Arum says is best he gonna rock with that
Like I said dude basically just a pawn in all of this
which is usually the case with most boxers
Dudes like Floyd, Bhop, Cotto are not the norm when it comes to how they handle the business side
Black_Jesus
Superstar
You dont have to go through the numbers.. They are solid numbers.. solid facts.. If Pac is selling more PPVs than Floyd, where does a titleless Floyd get off demanding anything in 09? Simple question. Why all the posturing?I'm not going to go through the number with you, but Pac wasn't A-side...
And what part of it not having to do with Money did you not understand. Manny made his requests and Floyd accepted. Floyd made his requests and Pac denied. Floyd ADJUSTED his requests, and they were still denied...
But that's not suspect to you... Right
And basically you're saying that Floyd was B-side to Manny now...
Floyd/Hatton did under a million in the US.. Floydie retires for two years comes back and
Floyd/Marquez drew barely a million buys.. Floyd didn't even have a belt at 147 by then
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.4 million, and Pac became ww champ
Tell me again how Floyd was A side during those 09 negotiations?
Manny v.s. De La Hoya did 1.2 buys compared to floyd and De la Hoya did 2 million
Manny and Hatton did 850 Floyd and Hatton did 920 in the US
Manny and Miguel did 1,250,000 you fukking moron, Floyd and Miguel did 1.5
Shane and Floyd did 1.4 million
what reality are you living, Floyd is p4p number 1 as been the A side since he beat De La Hoya
he's undefeated, manny is not, also I already told you nobody cares about that WBO worthless belt
Ed MOTHEREFFING G
Chances make champions
you know the answerFloyd/Hatton did under a million in the US.. Floydie retires for two years comes back and
Floyd/Marquez drew barely a million buys.. Floyd didn't even have a belt at 147 by then
Pacquiao/Cotto did 1.4 million, and Pac became ww champ
Tell me again how Floyd was A side during those 09 negotiations?
floyd / DLH 2007 - $19 Million live gate [record] - 2.4 million ppv buys
Pacq / DLH 2008 - 1.2 million ppv buys
mayweather was literally twice the draw of manny pacquiao then
I am pro-Mayweather. He isn't trying to convenience Ar-scum.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
But you would've had to go back over two years for that statement to be true.. Floyd had fought twice since De La Hoya and could barely scratch a million..
Now if you use that logic and go back two years to the Pac/Bradley 1, that fight did around 900k which is around the same as Floyds last ppv numbers, so they sould be 50/50 right?? Using your logic of course
