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At my server.


Spy puts were crazy today. I bought damn near at the top at 674.51,since i had resistence at 674.81. Luckily i was at work and too distracted sell. Otherwise i wouldnt have held for that whole move down. Didnt sell til about 656$. Only had one,but that 1300$ gain helped offset losses
 

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As a long term buyer, using a percentage of my capital at planned levels is always the move. Quick flip plays can end up as a bag holding situation. I learned that in 2021. :francis:



Fibronaci levels?

Thats what ive been using mostly. Seems like thats what most of the institutions use.


Have stocks really even begun to fall yet? Doesnt really seem like it. As much as it feels like weve been down forever lol. I know in October i mostly went sideways. Nov im down,but honestly i would barely be down if my dumb ass didnt put 50% of my swing account in one stock. And 20% of my regular account in that same stock. Bad luck considering the way i was disciplined about diversifying right up until this pullback. But i guess thats why you should never slack in your discipline:respect:#AnyGivenMoment
 

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I was talking to my friend who’s a financial advisor, and he gave me a lot of insight into what’s going on right now.

There’s clearly been a ton of liquidation across markets though realistically, there could still be more. He said there are a bunch of catalysts that could pop up anytime: geopolitical risk, FX and carry-trade pressure, domestic data, SCOTUS rulings, global energy, changes in Treasury reserves, QT unwinding, and corporate bond/credit yields especially with AI infrastructure spending ramping up.

He also mentioned how SOFR now accepts UST and MBS as collateral. For years, money market funds were basically being used to pump M2 and lever into equities. But the economy is weak and loan rates are high, so banks would rather buy Treasuries than issue loans. Lower rates are starting to change that dynamic, but inflation is still an issue. A lot of the system is running on leverage using Treasuries as collateral. kind of a K shaped setup.

He’s been watching M2 and M2V closely, especially since velocity recently broke its long-term trend.

From a technical standpoint, bar-to-bar and trend counts still show a clear downtrend on the 4H and daily. Those are fighting with the weekly (which is shifting) and the monthly. things only get ugly when the monthly finally flips.

And with the BoJ likely hiking in December, the Fed starting QE on Dec 1, and the possibility of a U.S. rate cut that same month, it’s interesting that the BoJ is tokenizing a lot of Treasuries. A carry trade unwind could easily happen onchain, especially with how BTC treasury reserves are being handled. His view was that this might be the start of a “1933-style reset” but with BTC instead of gold basically a slow-moving dollar debasement.

We’ve had a lot of “false dawns” for dollar debasement, but he thinks the setup finally points toward a gradual, multi-year move into 2028.
 

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I was talking to my friend who’s a financial advisor, and he gave me a lot of insight into what’s going on right now.

There’s clearly been a ton of liquidation across markets though realistically, there could still be more. He said there are a bunch of catalysts that could pop up anytime: geopolitical risk, FX and carry-trade pressure, domestic data, SCOTUS rulings, global energy, changes in Treasury reserves, QT unwinding, and corporate bond/credit yields especially with AI infrastructure spending ramping up.

He also mentioned how SOFR now accepts UST and MBS as collateral. For years, money market funds were basically being used to pump M2 and lever into equities. But the economy is weak and loan rates are high, so banks would rather buy Treasuries than issue loans. Lower rates are starting to change that dynamic, but inflation is still an issue. A lot of the system is running on leverage using Treasuries as collateral. kind of a K shaped setup.

He’s been watching M2 and M2V closely, especially since velocity recently broke its long-term trend.

From a technical standpoint, bar-to-bar and trend counts still show a clear downtrend on the 4H and daily. Those are fighting with the weekly (which is shifting) and the monthly. things only get ugly when the monthly finally flips.

And with the BoJ likely hiking in December, the Fed starting QE on Dec 1, and the possibility of a U.S. rate cut that same month, it’s interesting that the BoJ is tokenizing a lot of Treasuries. A carry trade unwind could easily happen onchain, especially with how BTC treasury reserves are being handled. His view was that this might be the start of a “1933-style reset” but with BTC instead of gold basically a slow-moving dollar debasement.

We’ve had a lot of “false dawns” for dollar debasement, but he thinks the setup finally points toward a gradual, multi-year move into 2028.

What the fukk are you talking about?

Just playing. Interesting stuff. How are you playing it?
 

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What the fukk are you talking about?

Just playing. Interesting stuff. How are you playing it?

Not a sudden crash, but a slow multi-year shift that ends around 2028, where the dollar gets weaker and Bitcoin + real assets become more important.

That's what he thinks. Smart dude. Hedge fund.
 
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