And my counter to that would be that we, as the public, have absolutely no idea how he talks besides the minimal alleged conversations. This is the dangers of having preconceived notions around this. If you come into this coating your lens in confirmation bias then you’re not going to see clearly.
The only thing we should be comparing with the roommate exchange is how he spoke to his friends on Discord because that’s the only thing we can reference it with. Not how we think other 20-year-olds talk online.
It’s a sounder argument than the idea that other 20-year-olds don’t talk like that.
At least my argument is backed by an extensive history of the administration’s propaganda (that everyone is witnessing, in real time), whereas y’all argument is backed by what you think other young adults speak like, which has no relevance because other young adults aren’t Tyler Robinson.
Fair. He could be quite the erudite and old fashioned texter.
How many other gay 20-year-olds in Utah with a Mormon upbringing do you know in order to compare with how he should sound like?
What leads you to believe they bungled the collection of digital evidence? Yes we know they bungled the capture of Tyler, but that’s irrelevant to the findings on his Discord account and the text messages between him and his roommate.
In the investigation, the FBI said that there were PLANNING details discussed on Discord. (Planning, i.e. before the actual shooting)
Discord did a review and said there were not
The FBI had to backtrack.
So from the very start it looks like the FBI was trying to create a narrative.
Maybe someone misspoke, maybe this is about the nuance of language...
But your claim relies on your belief that the FBI, in this case, was competent in retrieving these messages.
It wouldn’t be hard to retrieve those text messages (given they were only a couple days old) and we’ve already seen screenshots of his Discord messages.
Screenshots can be faked, just like the content of the message.
They already tried to create a false narrative and Discord stepped up.
Given how much flack media companies have gotten, and how much legislators were about to clamp down on Discord, it would make sense for them to stay quiet these so-called messages going forward.
And let’s for the sake of argument say that they couldn’t retrieve the messages, how would they possibly go about a ‘parallel construction’ with absolutely next-to-nothing to go on? Why would they add a joke about him talking about how his granddad’s scope did the job just fine? Why would they add a joke about him saying he’d have a stroke if they mentioned the memes on the news?
Just like I can't really know the mind of Tyler, I can't really understand the mentality of Kash and Co.
Maybe they thought those details would make make it seem real.
Given he wasn’t cooperating and it had only been days after his arrest, how could they possibly know what kind of tone he spoke in?
They spoke to his family.
If they did construct it, they wouldn’t have added any personal or emotive language because they wouldn’t know where to begin because they obviously don’t know him.
Again, this point kinda goes nowhere.
You're argument is that they could have/should have written it better, but they didn't - thus real.
And I'm saying their incompetent, as evidenced by their view of digital evidence, and how they tried to capture him, and their taking credit for his father/family turning him in.
And the nail in the coffin of that theory is they interviewed the roommate and got their account of him finding the note, and what transpired after that (sending messages to Tyler). The roommate could easily sue them and blow this entire case up after seeing they made anything up given they would’ve read the court filing just like we did. Tyler’s attorney could get the case thrown out off the back of that too.
Why would the authorities risk that?
What are they risking?
I don't really have a dog in this fight tbh, though the messages really don't line up with reality.
He very well may be a well spoken boy that uses full sentences and does not use slang in his texts.
Which only makes his use of memes on the bullets that much weirder.
I'm not saying some Israeli did it to take the attention off the Epstein files....
But the timeline and the messages don't fit a plausible narrative in my view.
