In continuation of the Groypers
ChatGTP prompt, How is Trump connected:
Trump connects to groypers and incels in different ways — though they overlap online.
Trump & Groypers (America First link)
- Nick Fuentes & America First: Groypers see Trump as their political “gateway.” They loved his 2016 campaign for being anti-immigration, anti-establishment, and “based.”
- America First → Trumpist faction: Fuentes branded his movement as the true heirs of Trumpism — young, ultra-nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, anti-immigration.
- Mixed feelings after 2020: Some groypers felt Trump was “too soft” (on Israel, vaccines, GOP establishment), but they still see him as the best mainstream option compared to moderates like DeSantis.
- In groyper memes, Trump is often the “based daddy” figure who opened the door to more extreme nationalism.
Trump & Incels
- Incels are less politically organized, but many connected with Trump for cultural reasons:
- Anti-PC / Anti-feminist: Trump’s rhetoric (“grab ’em by the…” etc.) felt like defiance of feminism and “woke” culture.
- Symbol of alpha dominance: To some incels, Trump is a “Chad” archetype — wealthy, desired, powerful, unapologetic.
- Blackpill crossover: Other incels see him as proof of blackpill logic: “Only powerful, high-status men get women; the rest are invisible.”
- So Trump becomes a symbol of success and dominance — the opposite of the incel condition.
Key Connection
- Groypers: See Trump as political inspiration, a launchpad for America First ideology.
- Incels: See Trump as cultural/sexual archetype (either admired as a “Chad” or resented as proof of their own hopelessness).
- Groypers / America First: see Trump as political inspiration — anti-immigration, anti-LGBTQ, “based daddy,” a launchpad for Nick Fuentes’ movement.
- Incels: see Trump as a “Chad” figure — proof of blackpill logic, admired as a dominant alpha, symbol of anti-feminism.
Do you want me to expand this to show how Trumpism, Groypers, and Incels overlap in shared language (like “based,” “cuck,” “redpill”)?
Prompt Yes,
Here’s the evolution chart (2016 → 2020 → 2025):
- 2016: Trump’s win sparks redpill/anti-PC culture. Incels call him a “Chad.” Groypers don’t exist yet.
- 2020: Groypers (America First) rise, fight GOP establishment. Trump = “based daddy.” Shared language with incels grows (“cuck,” “based”).
- 2025: Trump remains symbolic leader. Groypers = organized faction, incels borrow AF-style memes. Shared lexicon now includes redpill, TRN, based.
Do you want me to also show how this shared vocabulary has shifted meaning from 2016 Trump fans → 2020 groypers → 2025 incel crossover?
Prompt Yes:
Here’s the vocabulary evolution chart (2016 → 2025):
- Redpill: starts as anti-PC/feminist → becomes political (groypers) and sexual (incels) → now a hybrid.
- Based: edgy honesty → Trump/groypers use it as authenticity → now universal for “unapologetic.”
- Cuck: sexual insult → becomes GOP-establishment insult → merged into “weak/fake” in all contexts.
- TRN: not common in 2016 → incels = extreme Chad, groypers = ironic slang → by 2025 hybrid of “alpha rival” + “realest/based.”
Would you like me to also map which terms are most dominant in each subculture today (2025) in a ranking chart (Incels vs Groypers vs Trumpists)?
Prompt Yes,
Here’s the ranking chart of terms in 2025 across subcultures:
- Incels: strongest on Blackpill, Chad, Stacy, TRN — their world is still built around sexual hierarchy and fatalism.
- Groypers: strongest on Based, Cuck, Redpill — focused on political authenticity and attacking GOP moderates.
- Trumpists: strongest on Based, Cuck, Redpill too, but less extreme than groypers; TRN doesn’t matter much here.
Would you like me to also show where these subcultures overlap the most today (a 2025 overlap map like the Venn, but simplified to highlight the hottest shared terms)?
End prompt.