BREAKING: Deal to end government shutdown in reach. Democrats caving? Only asking for a PROMISE of a vote for ACA Tax credits.

[Bryan Danielson]

fukk no. The people can make third parties viable if they stop being scared little hoes about it and putting all their eggs in one basket with a snake in it.

Otherwise, thinking new Dems are gonna do right by us will just land us more candidates like Mamdani, who just plays footsie with white power/money where you can't see it.

them 3rd parties don’t be good man. Not saying the other 2 are consistently great…. But come on lol

I don’t know enough about Mamdani nor do I live in NY. So I ain’t really in-tuned with that.

I would be great if candidates do more… but what concerns me are the people that are actively trying to make things worse for us. And thats the Rep. Dems don’t do shyt that is damaging

 

[The_Truth]

Fukk that. Keep the government shut down. America needs to feel the consequences of putting Trump back in power.

 

[Afro]

fukk no. The people can make third parties viable if they stop being scared little hoes about it and putting all their eggs in one basket with a snake in it.

Otherwise, thinking new Dems are gonna do right by us will just land us more candidates like Mamdani, who just plays footsie with white power/money where you can't see it.

Breh, I hear you.

But the American people will forever bounce between capital Imperialists until the heat death of the universe

 

[focusloco]

This is why the democrats don't have any power in Washington....besides the obvious point of this country full racist idiots....the democrats have no backbone.
Schumer

Jeffries ...ol word salad ass guy

The democrats are run by JAGS...nobody above average gets promoted in that party....I've posted on here how much I donated to Kamala to prevent Trump but here we are ....fukking party might as well fold

 

[Still Benefited]

That is the biggest problem and I do not know how you can fight such a level of stupidity, stupidity that thinking not voting is going to make the people you do not like do what you want, even though they won without you.

If more people supported good candidates in primaries and voted them in, we would not be in this mess.

Yea…. We need people to definitely start voting for new people.

We also need people to stop being apathetic and stop “not voting” or thinking they making some type point burning votes on 3rd options (splitting the vote)

Seems like everything is going according to plan to me#WinWinSituation #YourWelcome. White supremacy system being dismantled by the day. People so disgusted with status quo Dems it opened the door for a new era of Dems with less conformist policies. If we cant get a third party,we will just have to reimagine one of the current options. To be clear I dont align with those nutty proggressives on many things. But it just goes to prove my point that the Democrats are vulnerable to hostile takeover with that devasting Kamala loss. Its imperative straight black men be at the forefront of the table when that happens. Despite yall saying black men should just kneel on the ground and wait for scraps,we will be the power brokers

 

[Robbie3000]

True, but the reality is that it's already going up just from the shutdown continuing; the most important thing is making sure people have food on their tables. Sometimes you gotta make tough choices to save people, even if it puts others in jeopardy; the sacrifices have to be made for the greater good.


Well, if most Americans agree that the shutdown is the Republicans'/Trump's fault, which it is, then that realization shouldn't change if the Dems decide to cave and make an agreement with this new proposal.

We can't expect millions of people, from the elderly, little children, and the disabled, among others to continue going without the certainty of having food to eat. While healthcare is important, food is a necessity, and while it was nice to see the Dems not back down, we can't get too caught up playing their game of trying to “stick it to them” as millions of people struggle to put food on their tables.

With Trump doing what he's doing, it's just causing millions of people to suffer, and while yes many will receive SNAP this month of November. In December, that's where things get dangerous if the shutdown doesn't end soon, because there won't be any funds for SNAP, unless States choose to fund it themselves, but that's a tall task for most.

The Dems probably acknowledge this and realize something has to give for this to end, which is why they're contemplating coming to some form of agreement with this proposal.

Tell that to people with existing conditions who will now be priced out of healthcare. Working and middle class people who can’t get Medicaid or low income healthcare.

Democrats should hold the ground no matter the immediate costs. They have the leverage. The people are behind them. They shouldn’t put themselves in a position to choose between two terrible choices.

 

[Unbothered]

I think ACA credits are more important personally. People will not be able to afford their healthcare costs, doubling or tripling.

Tell that to people with existing conditions who will now be priced out of healthcare. Working and middle-class people who can’t get Medicaid or low-income healthcare.

Democrats should hold the ground no matter the immediate costs. They have the leverage. The people are behind them. They shouldn’t put themselves in a position to choose between two terrible choices.

I hear what y'all are saying but I disagree.

Yes, the healthcare subsidies are important, but they're not more important than food. While I can understand the importance of everybody having some level of health insurance, it's something that a person can live without if need be. Food, on the other hand, is an essential and vital necessity that one can only go soo long without; you can't eat health insurance, you can't fry it, saute it, bake it, nothing, it's not going to keep you full at night.

There's a reason why SNAP has been considered a vital program in this country for decades. We're only 9 days in November, and we've seen the pain millions of people have experienced from not getting their benefits on time. That's how vital the program has been.

I've read a comment on Facebook earlier, how this man with a family in NYS mentioned that his SNAP benefits are pending for Tuesday and said he was soo happy, because his family was starving and now he's finally able to get a good night's rest knowing they'll be able to buy groceries on Tuesday, he literally said “we are hungry”. I've read many comments from people on SNAP over the last week, and I could feel the emotions; although I may not be in their shoes, I sympathize with them, shyt I dayum near got a little teary eyed myself.

I can only speak for myself, but I have health insurance and I'm grateful for it, but the truth is I haven't gone to the doctor in almost 3 years. Now, obviously, I'm fortunate to be healthy enough to be in a position to go that long, but my point in saying this is that there are millions of people like me who have health insurance and don't use it, and it's collecting dust. Some don't have any and are living fine, although maybe not long-term, but it's an example of how, depending on circumstances, many can survive without healthcare if they have no choice.

I'm not saying having health insurance isn't important, but if push comes to shove and I had to choose between having food to put on the table versus healthcare insurance that I might not even use often, if ever, I'm going to choose having food to eat because I know you'll eventually get sick and die from becoming nutriently deficient due to the lack of food, which is why I've been saying Food Banks and pantries, while helpful, aren't sufficiently sustainable, not only in terms of supply but most importantly in giving people the proper nutrients that the body needs long-term.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

This is why the democrats don't have any power in Washington....besides the obvious point of this country full racist idiots....the democrats have no backbone.
Schumer

Jeffries ...ol word salad ass guy

The democrats are run by JAGS...nobody above average gets promoted in that party....I've posted on here how much I donated to Kamala to prevent Trump but here we are ....fukking party might as well fold

Wicked if Schumer caves without the ACA extension..The fact he would even negotiate this and knowing that a vote after the government opens is useless and won't pass is Treasonous to the American citizens I hope for the peoples sake this is false press

 

[Wargames]

This is where the threat of violence would be a great idea.

Say less cause all signs point to that coming.

 

[MarcP]

Vote the cavers out asap. These dumb fukkers getting sentimental over a holiday season that was fukked 6 months ago. There's no good black friday deals because of the tariffs and the money is tight as is so if you're gonna stand against the GOP this is the holiday season to do it.

 

[Wargames]

I hear what y'all are saying but I disagree.

Yes, the healthcare subsidies are important, but they're not more important than food. While I can understand the importance of everybody having some level of health insurance, it's something that a person can live without if need be. Food, on the other hand, is an essential and vital necessity that one can only go soo long without; you can't eat health insurance, you can't fry it, saute it, bake it, nothing, it's not going to keep you full at night.

There's a reason why SNAP has been considered a vital program in this country for decades. We're only 9 days in November, and we've seen the pain millions of people have experienced from not getting their benefits on time. That's how vital the program has been.

I've read a comment on Facebook earlier, how this man with a family in NYS mentioned that his SNAP benefits are pending for Tuesday and said he was soo happy, because his family was starving and now he's finally able to get a good night's rest knowing they'll be able to buy groceries on Tuesday, he literally said “we are hungry”. I've read many comments from people on SNAP over the last week, and I could feel the emotions; although I may not be in their shoes, I sympathize with them, shyt I dayum near got a little teary eyed myself.

I can only speak for myself, but I have health insurance and I'm grateful for it, but the truth is I haven't gone to the doctor in almost 3 years. Now, obviously, I'm fortunate to be healthy enough to be in a position to go that long, but my point in saying this is that there are millions of people like me who have health insurance and don't use it, and it's collecting dust. Some don't have any and are living fine, although maybe not long-term, but it's an example of how, depending on circumstances, many can survive without healthcare if they have no choice.

I'm not saying having health insurance isn't important, but if push comes to shove and I had to choose between having food to put on the table versus healthcare insurance that I might not even use often, if ever, I'm going to choose having food to eat because I know you'll eventually get sick and die from becoming nutriently deficient due to the lack of food, which is why I've been saying Food Banks and pantries, while helpful, aren't sufficiently sustainable, not only in terms of supply but most importantly in giving people the proper nutrients that the body needs long-term.

I think you’re only seeing half the equation. This funding bill expires at the end of January. If you don’t think they shut down again your wrong and if the republicans threaten to starve people again it just leads to more of the same BUT everybody knows the republicans is threatening to starve people to keep them from health care.

It’s going to cost the republicans something crazy in 2026. They can’t gerrymander to save themselves either. shyt could get so bad we could see a Democratic super majority get put in during 2026.


Just to put this into perspective 90% of the people didn’t care the democrats kicked the can down the road to November. Now everyone cares. This scrutiny is only going to kick the republicans in the teeth. If the republicans were never going to pass the subsidies then the democrats need to bleed them out until 2026. This and the BBB kicking in will lead to a slaughter in 2026.

 

[Ozymandeas]

I hear what y'all are saying but I disagree.

Yes, the healthcare subsidies are important, but they're not more important than food. While I can understand the importance of everybody having some level of health insurance, it's something that a person can live without if need be. Food, on the other hand, is an essential and vital necessity that one can only go soo long without; you can't eat health insurance, you can't fry it, saute it, bake it, nothing, it's not going to keep you full at night.

There's a reason why SNAP has been considered a vital program in this country for decades. We're only 9 days in November, and we've seen the pain millions of people have experienced from not getting their benefits on time. That's how vital the program has been.

I've read a comment on Facebook earlier, how this man with a family in NYS mentioned that his SNAP benefits are pending for Tuesday and said he was soo happy, because his family was starving and now he's finally able to get a good night's rest knowing they'll be able to buy groceries on Tuesday, he literally said “we are hungry”. I've read many comments from people on SNAP over the last week, and I could feel the emotions; although I may not be in their shoes, I sympathize with them, shyt I dayum near got a little teary eyed myself.

I can only speak for myself, but I have health insurance and I'm grateful for it, but the truth is I haven't gone to the doctor in almost 3 years. Now, obviously, I'm fortunate to be healthy enough to be in a position to go that long, but my point in saying this is that there are millions of people like me who have health insurance and don't use it, and it's collecting dust. Some don't have any and are living fine, although maybe not long-term, but it's an example of how, depending on circumstances, many can survive without healthcare if they have no choice.

I'm not saying having health insurance isn't important, but if push comes to shove and I had to choose between having food to put on the table versus healthcare insurance that I might not even use often, if ever, I'm going to choose having food to eat because I know you'll eventually get sick and die from becoming nutriently deficient due to the lack of food, which is why I've been saying Food Banks and pantries, while helpful, aren't sufficiently sustainable, not only in terms of supply but most importantly in giving people the proper nutrients that the body needs long-term.

I feel you. I can see either argument.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

Indefensible. But you already know who will justify this

 

[Ozymandeas]

I think you’re only seeing half the equation. This funding bill expires at the end of January. If you don’t think they shut down again your wrong and if the republicans threaten to starve people again it just leads to more of the same BUT everybody knows the republicans is threatening to starve people to keep them from health care.

It’s going to cost the republicans something crazy in 2026. They can’t gerrymander to save themselves either. shyt could get so bad we could see a Democratic super majority get put in during 2026.


Just to put this into perspective 90% of the people didn’t care the democrats kicked the can down the road to November. Now everyone cares. This scrutiny is only going to kick the republicans in the teeth. If the republicans were never going to pass the subsidies then the democrats need to bleed them out until 2026. This and the BBB kicking in will lead to a slaughter in 2026.

That might be the play then. Do a short-term funding bill to get us through the Holiday season.

Then if Republicans act stupid and don't extend the subsidies, close the Government again.

At least then, you won't have people complaining about not having food for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

 

[King_Kamala61]

#bothsides

Dems caving after tryna be tuff is hilarious


They got that phone call to save them people cause it damn sure wasn't bout US.