Breaking down the NBA MVP ballot

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I'm not going to get into any arguments about what it means to be MVP because we could all go back and forth for days on it. But the fact remains....by ANY MEASURE, Lebron is hands down the MVP this year and it isn't really even close

If you watched Jordan during his prime and watched Lebron now and your head wasn't clouded by some sort of bias, you would see that Lebron this year is playing on a level that is just as high as Jordan ever did. This is probably the best season I have ever seen with my own eyes (obviously not old enough for Wilt or Oscar or whatever so can't compare them)

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This is exactly how I feel..

nikkas need to throw all the bullshyt aside and understand what we are watching.
 

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The only thing to breakdown is who is gonna finish second to LBJ. He should be a unanimous selection as MVP. I think next season they will give it to someone else like they did in 2011 but even then i wouldnt bet against Bron getting his fifth.
 

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I'm not going to get into any arguments about what it means to be MVP because we could all go back and forth for days on it. But the fact remains....by ANY MEASURE, Lebron is hands down the MVP this year and it isn't really even close

If you watched Jordan during his prime and watched Lebron now and your head wasn't clouded by some sort of bias, you would see that Lebron this year is playing on a level that is just as high as Jordan ever did. This is probably the best season I have ever seen with my own eyes (obviously not old enough for Wilt or Oscar or whatever so can't compare them)

i have to agree with this. i witnessed mj in his heyday and all 6 titles. the game was different back then no doubt, but this season lebron has been just as dominant and unstoppable as jordan ever was in his best seasons.

i have to acknowledge that mj had many of these types of seasons, compared to this being the first one for lebron, but if lebron can stay this focused for the next 3 or 4 seasons.... :whew:

biggest challenge he's facing is free agency.
 

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:mindblown: at how nikkas still don't get it. MVP is for most valuable player or for the best player. It's not even about an individual. MVP is really a team award. Take a look at some of the greatest seasons ever (Wilt 50 and 25, Big O Triple Double, MJ 37) and none of them won MVP. It comes down to a combination of team success, great individual play, and narrative.

Coming into this year the front runner for MVP was Durant. He had the team. He had the narrative and we know he's a beast individually. If Bron and the Heat hadn't taken it to another level this year he'd probably win it. If the Knicks hadn't experienced that mid-season swoon and they were still competing with the Heat for 1st in the East Melo would probably be the front runner based on his recent play. If the Lakers were anywhere near what they were expected to be Kobe would be up there.

Yup.

Anyway yes Bron wins this year with no discussion, what I personnaly STILL find sorry (as a fan of the game) is that yes, the Heat are a even more of a super-team than last year, and that for me skews his dominance. HOWEVER, I think at this stage of his career he would be the MVP no matter where/with who he plays, it would just be less dominant.

What I'm more salty about is seeing CP360 all up there, I haven't seen that many Clipper games but those I have seen I'm not sure he's even better than Sabo at this point.

And the writer really went out of his way to hate on Melo, let's embrace the hate knicks brehs :blessed:
 

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i have to agree with this. i witnessed mj in his heyday and all 6 titles. the game was different back then no doubt, but this season lebron has been just as dominant and unstoppable as jordan ever was in his best seasons.

i have to acknowledge that mj had many of these types of seasons, compared to this being the first one for lebron, but if lebron can stay this focused for the next 3 or 4 seasons.... :whew:

biggest challenge he's facing is free agency.

Nah...
 

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People actually trying to argue against Bron in here? :russ:


and why are people hating on Gasol when they dont watch him play? I dont get it.
 

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Yup.

Anyway yes Bron wins this year with no discussion, what I personnaly STILL find sorry (as a fan of the game) is that yes, the Heat are a even more of a super-team than last year, and that for me skews his dominance. HOWEVER, I think at this stage of his career he would be the MVP no matter where/with who he plays, it would just be less dominant.

What I'm more salty about is seeing CP360 all up there, I haven't seen that many Clipper games but those I have seen I'm not sure he's even better than Sabo at this point.

And the writer really went out of his way to hate on Melo, let's embrace the hate knicks brehs :blessed:

If he was dominating like that with scrubs nikkas would find a way to shyt on him. This is how it works. Super players on superteams win MVPs. The same super player on a shytty team doesn't get shyt. Is it fair or logical? No. But it has pretty consistent throughout NBA history especially the last 30+ years.

:comeon: at "Melo hate". The "hate" this nikka has recieved pales in comparison to the shyt much more accomplished nikkas have taken over the years. Beyond that the Knicks were a .500 team between the 18-5 start and the current 13 game winning streak. You don't win MVPs on .500 teams. Like I said if the Knicks were still competing for that top seed with the Heat and Melo was finishing like this he would have a strong shot at unseating Bron on the Malone/Barkley principle.
 

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The thing people don't realize is that born isn't even trying out there. He's got to a point where he is playing against himself. Game within a game :leostare:

the nikka threw it off the backboard to himself last night :wtf:
 

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If he was dominating like that with scrubs nikkas would find a way to shyt on him. This is how it works. Super players on superteams win MVPs. The same super player on a shytty team doesn't get shyt. Is it fair or logical? No. But it has pretty consistent throughout NBA history especially the last 30+ years.

:comeon: at "Melo hate". The "hate" this nikka has recieved pales in comparison to the shyt much more accomplished nikkas have taken over the years. Beyond that the Knicks were a .500 team between the 18-5 start and the current 13 game winning streak. You don't win MVPs on .500 teams. Like I said if the Knicks were still competing for that top seed with the Heat and Melo was finishing like this he would have a strong shot at unseating Bron on the Malone/Barkley principle.

That's bs, Lebron himself won two himself on Cleveland teams that were far from being super-teams.

Ok, hate is not the right word, I'll give you that. (But apart from Lebron and Iverson, I don't see who exactly has taken more shyt than him tehse past years. shyt there was a thread a couple days ago on an article saying that Griffin is better than Melo :deadrose:) I never said Melo should win the MVP this year, but the writer does bring him up like four or five times to get his point across...since when is Melo a measuring stick?
 

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Who are we all kidding
we already know who won the MVP this year
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That's bs, Lebron himself won two himself on Cleveland teams that were far from being super-teams.

Ok, hate is not the right word, I'll give you that. (But apart from Lebron and Iverson, I don't see who exactly has taken more shyt than him tehse past years. shyt there was a thread a couple days ago on an article saying that Griffin is better than Melo :deadrose:) I never said Melo should win the MVP this year, but the writer does bring him up like four or five times to get his point across...since when is Melo a measuring stick?

Kobe, Mike, TMac, and KG instantly come to mind as well. CLE were super-regular season teams. If those teams win 45 games Bron doesn't get MVP those years, no matter how well he plays. Magic and Bird won MVPs on teams stacked with HOFers. Mike didnt' win an MVP without Scottie on the roster. KG didnt' win MVP until Spree and Cassell came to town. Point is MVP is more so about team success then actual value to the team or individual greatness. Melo is just recently started to really catch any sort of flack and that's only because he is in NY.
 

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:what:

his shooting avgs are up in both fg and 3pt his per is up. by every measure except scoring avg he's better this year than last.

Exactly. :what:

Last year he dominated and took his game inside and on the elbow almost exclusively..

This year he actually improved and took it up a notch

:what:

Thats why we are all buggin at this dude..
 
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