🚨🚨Breaking News🚨🚨Knicks Head Coach Tom Thibodeau fired by the team after winning 2nd Round Championship. The Haliban Caught a Body.

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Mark Jackson is baaack!!

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KAT isn't the playmaker Jokic is. He is definitely not the dog that Cousins is (nor is he the defender Cousins has shown he can be), but I don't think KAT has ever been the #1 option on a legitimately good team that was built around his strengths for more than a season.

KAT is an outstanding big man to build a team around, but it requires a specific type of team for it to work.
I can counter that and say that when he was still on the Wolves before Ant even got there they tried to build around him with Wiggins, Jimmy, and all the old players that used to be on that OG Thibbs Bull team. He not a #1 and never will be he's realistically a 2nd or 3rd option at.best





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:russ:At thinking Thibs would switch shyt up
I doubt he would have sustained it, but down the stretch of the ECF, Thibs went away from what he normally did as far as playing the bench more, etc. It was just too late for all that and wouldn't have changed anything.
 

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I can counter that and say that when he was still on the Wolves before Ant even got there they tried to build around him with Wiggins, Jimmy, and all the old players that used to be on that OG Thibbs Bull team. He not a #1 and never will be he's realistically a 2nd or 3rd option at.best





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The effort to build was there, but Wiggins and Jimmy need the ball in their hands to go to work, much like KAT does. Unfortunately, a bad move is a bad move sometimes, no matter how hard you try to make it a good one. The ECF showed that for the most part, talent that doesn't fit will only get you so far.

I cannot wrap my head around the idea that a career 23/11 player with 50/40/84 shooting splits is at best a 3rd option. 2nd option, sure, but it still requires a specific type of player to be the #1.

Brunson and KAT are #1 types that need a specific supporting cast for it to work.
 

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Nah, you can’t waste another year of this Knicks' core being in their prime because Thibs wants to be a stubborn goof refusing to make changes to his coaching philosophy
Honestly you right. Y’all got a short window. shyt next year could be y’all only shot with Tatum being out and if Bucks don’t step it up. I don’t think they gonna be that bad again . But If it ain’t Mike Malone, I don’t see no one better tho . But ain’t he from NY himself. He will definitely say yes with a decent offer
 

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Honestly you right. Y’all got a short window. shyt next year could be y’all only shot with Tatum being out and if Bucks don’t step it up. I don’t think they gonna be that bad again . But If it ain’t Mike Malone, I don’t see no one better tho . But ain’t he from NY himself. He will definitely say yes with a decent offer

The east as it currently stands is wide open. I'd like to think Cleveland should be favored -- Indy ran through them, but the Cavs weren't fully healthy -- to lead it, but who knows.

That said, this was YEAR ONE of Brunson and KAT together. On talent, they can lead a team to 50 wins or more. With Boston having to go without Tatum for a year and the Bucks appearing to be in lame-duck mode, this would have been the right time for the Knicks to run it back, but with a different offensive approach.

Now, if it failed in 2026, can his ass.

The more I sit with it, it seems the front office was salty that Indy put them out again and took it out on Thibs.
 

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Malone won't do better than Thibs and this firing just proves this is a star driven league. Brunson and KAT were in the limelight so they fire the coach as we've seen it happen before. There is no coach out there that will be hired and in his first year lead Knicks to finals. They have a roster issue.

they have to trade KAT. best 2 players can't be wack on defense. And we know Brunson ain't going nowhere.

So who takes KAT?
 

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Brunson is worse on defense than KAT. So it’s funny hearing people blame one of the best defensive coaches in the league for not winning with a 6”2” point guard and a defensive liability in KAT. It ain’t thibs fault y’all wasn’t good enough. Brunson hold the ball too much. It affects the offense . On some real shyt . Knicks never gonna win until y’all get a huge trade . Y’all lost against a team that was just better than you
 

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Thibs should be hired by the Hawks
they have to trade KAT. best 2 players can't be wack on defense. And we know Brunson ain't going nowhere.

So who takes KAT?
Who can you get with KAT that makes your team better, if you are the knicks?
 

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this not true! If we hadnt choked game 1 it woulda been a 7 game series ECF for sure. Thibs dont even use kat right hes probably the 2nd or 3rd most skilled big.

we have the 3rd best PG in the east and probably the best big behind embiid and jokic
You don't make KAT your second best player to win a title either.
 

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Who can you get with KAT that makes your team better, if you are the knicks?
Million Dollar Question :yeshrug:

Giannis is a pipe dream since Knicks have no picks.

Maybe Zion? But if you thought hoes were running game on him in the Boot, oh lord if he gets to NYC :mjlol:
 

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Honestly you right. Y’all got a short window. shyt next year could be y’all only shot with Tatum being out and if Bucks don’t step it up. I don’t think they gonna be that bad again . But If it ain’t Mike Malone, I don’t see no one better tho . But ain’t he from NY himself. He will definitely say yes with a decent offer
Mike Malone not the answer, imo. Knicks don’t necessarily need a big name, but someone who's going to open up their offense. More Brunson/KAT pick & rolls. More Mikal mid range shots, easy looks for OG, keeping Hart's mins to about 20 a game. And of course defense.
 
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