🚨🚨Breaking News🚨🚨Knicks Head Coach Tom Thibodeau fired by the team after winning 2nd Round Championship. The Haliban Caught a Body.

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I heard their offensive rating went from top three in the first few months to the 10-15 range post-ASB. They fell behind in almost every playoff game too by large amounts.

A modern coach would probably clean up a lot for them. I wonder if they'll target Jenkins over Malone.
i heard elsewhere (either valenti or simmons) that it was akin to the Rick Carlisle -> larry brown move by Detroit in 03. Just a gap in belief that the coach can't take them to the NEXT next level regardless of the success you're having. Makes sense...we'll see if the same result is the case.
 

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Idiotic move

Mike Malone isn’t changing that team
If Mike Malone can

-Get it in Jalen Brunson's head that running an iso play for 23 seconds every single time is likely not going to work
-Stop starting Hart, and get it in his head that he can not get offensive rebounds against 7 footers and that all those fouls hurt the team
-Get Bridges traded (he just doesn't have whatever the hell it is that shooters need, he is not aggressive at all when it matters.- nice guy, not a killer)

They can get back to the ECF.

My vote is easily Mark Jackson.

Why everyone immediately goes for the next available white coach, I have no clue.
 

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Meanwhile Bucks still employing Doc

They're not serious about keeping Giannis
 

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I know people keep saying Mike Malone. But people have to remember while he is a champion level coach, he's only as good as his big (ex: Jokic, Cousins) Kat is talented but he doesn't have that drive or dog in him compared to the other two. He has moments yes but he doesn't show up majority of the time when you NEED him to.



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i heard elsewhere (either valenti or simmons) that it was akin to the Rick Carlisle -> larry brown move by Detroit in 03. Just a gap in belief that the coach can't take them to the NEXT next level regardless of the success you're having. Makes sense...we'll see if the same result is the case.
It was Simmons and that talking point has irritated the fukk out of me for over two decades because it's total bullshyt.

Larry Brown did not put the Pistons over the top; Rasheed Wallace did. Detroit was 34-22 when Sheed suited up for his first game (they were also fresh off a six game losing streak). Through 56 games the previous season with Carlisle, they were 37-19.

The Pistons went 20-6 after Wallace joined the team. That was the fukking difference. I just can't believe how this Larry Brown put them over the top talking point has persisted for this long and it was never true.

What makes it even crazier is the fact Carlisle won a title with Dallas in 2011 and now he has Indy in the Finals in 2025. He's a legitimately great coach; he's always been a great coach.
 

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If Mike Malone can

-Get it in Jalen Brunson's head that running an iso play for 23 seconds every single time is likely not going to work
-Stop starting Hart, and get it in his head that he can not get offensive rebounds against 7 footers and that all those fouls hurt the team
-Get Bridges traded (he just doesn't have whatever the hell it is that shooters need, he is not aggressive at all when it matters.- nice guy, not a killer)

They can get back to the ECF.

My vote is easily Mark Jackson.

Why everyone immediately goes for the next available white coach, I have no clue.
While draft capital in the NBA isn't as valuable, seemingly, than it is in any other sport -- which is wild given they start with the least amount -- you don't give up five first-round picks for someone who is expected to be anything less than a top-tier #2 that could carry the team even if the #1 went down for a significant amount of time. Bridges is objectively good, but I don't know if he's ever been more than a de facto #2 on a bad team/upper-level 3 and D type of player.

So the Knicks paid fringe #1 (at worst) prices for someone who was going to be the #3 option on this team at best.
 

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I know people keep saying Mike Malone. But people have to remember while he is a champion level coach, he's only as good as his big (ex: Jokic, Cousins) Kat is talented but he doesn't have that drive or dog in him compared to the other two. He has moments yes but he doesn't show up majority of the time when you NEED him to.



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KAT isn't the playmaker Jokic is. He is definitely not the dog that Cousins is (nor is he the defender Cousins has shown he can be), but I don't think KAT has ever been the #1 option on a legitimately good team that was built around his strengths for more than a season.

KAT is an outstanding big man to build a team around, but it requires a specific type of team for it to work.
 

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If Mike Malone can

-Get it in Jalen Brunson's head that running an iso play for 23 seconds every single time is likely not going to work
-Stop starting Hart, and get it in his head that he can not get offensive rebounds against 7 footers and that all those fouls hurt the team
-Get Bridges traded (he just doesn't have whatever the hell it is that shooters need, he is not aggressive at all when it matters.- nice guy, not a killer)

They can get back to the ECF.

My vote is easily Mark Jackson.

Why everyone immediately goes for the next available white coach, I have no clue.
If the Knicks ran Thibs outta here for his offense, Jackson was no better in GS. Super ISO heavy.

Add in the fact that he hasn’t coached in over a decade, I probably have a better shot than Mark to be the new head coach
 

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Knicks weren't winning with Thibs. Not when your starting 5 are in the top 40 for mins played in the season. Brunson who played 65 games still made 39th in mins. And then go on to mins per game and the starting 5 are in the top 20.

Great coach for turning around a team and giving them discipline structure and making them competitive after not being so. But after a a few years together the players probably have gotten tired of his messaging and ways which is natural. Familiarity breeds contempt. Happens in all sports and in life.

You either change the entire roster and keep Thibs or you get rid of Thibs and keep majority of the roster. The easiest and cheapest way is to get rid of the coach.
 
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He deserved another crack at it, specifically to show that the miscues of the ECF were learned from and used in implementing how the team would operate moving forward.
:russ:At thinking Thibs would switch shyt up
Nah, you can’t waste another year of this Knicks' core being in their prime because Thibs wants to be a stubborn goof refusing to make changes to his coaching philosophy
And the way the new cap rules hit, windows are small as fukk now.

On the podcast a day or two ago, Jeff was talking about how he doesn’t let the assistants do shyt. They’re just there. It all Thibs, so he’s not even a guy that would rely on an offensive minded assistant to come up with stuff. Marquis said in his pre draft work out Thibs ran the entire work out.
The people defending him don’t actually want him as their head coach :dead:
I love what he did with the Bulls, but his stubbornness made it easy for me to be okay with letting him go. Of course we fukked up his replacement, and the next few hires, but it’s tough to defend a guy that kept closing playoff games with

Noah
Taj
Jimmy
Washed Kirk Hinrich
Rose

And you had the third string announcers openly calling it out
 
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