Breh, am I misunderstanding the Autobiography of Malcolm X?

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elijah muhammad became jealous of malcolm, wanted to turn everybody against him, lik ali.

when malcolm remarked about the chickens coming home to roost referencing kennedy, elijah muhammad used that as his in

then the what you posted in the bold happened and it gave him more of a reason to kill malcolm

That's not what killed Bro Malcolm.................

I may just decide later or in a minute to come drop a load....:mjpls:
 

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Bruh, fukk whoever says he changed up his style dramatically just because he saw some European Muslims. He saw that he was casting unfair condemnations on a wide group up people unknowingly and apologized for it. Besides that he continued to champion causes specifically for the solidarity and progression of not just African Americans but Africans world wide. It was the world wide aspect of his actions and philosophy in addition to the belief of self-defense by any means that got him focused upon which led to his assassination.
 

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I was talking with my homegirl the other day and she was telling me about how it's cool to read your rip of these or some other greek nikka. and i was like :ohhh: but have you ever read the Autobiography.

She said :whoa:, I'm not sure if I want to read a book by someone that hated white people his whole life. she is white. now this cause me to clear all that shyt up to the best of my ability and by the end of it i was like :beli: because you got motherfukkers out here white and black that probably have no idea what this dude even did.

wasn't part of the reason why dude was assassinated because he took his pilgrimmage, saw white muslims, and then wanted to change his style up? it's been about 2 years since i read it (for the 2nd time) but i'm pretty sure that's what happened. dude wasn't saying we should be mixing it up but the "you're a goddamn devil" shyt changed more into ":beli: just do you". we all belong to god, so to speak.

and while his activisism is what he was known for, there is a recurring theme of dude being stubborn but smart enough to not let his missteps ruin his life (until that last time when he was in too deep).
He was killed because he was leaning toward pan africanism which put him in the crosshairs of the government. At the same time he disrespected the man that brought him into knowledge, Elijah Muhammed, which put him in the crosshairs of the nation of islam so it was a perfect storm for his death.

At his death his feelings were, whites can help us but they cant join us......
 

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Anybody read the part in the book when Malcolm was at the junior high dance with the white girl.:mjlol:

I found my self laughing through the entire autobiography, dude said what ever popped up in his head sometimes. It was a good read.
The funnest part was when he got in the boxing ring with a white boy and got his ass beat bad and his brothers disowned him for getting beat. Then he trained night and day on some ROCKY ish and got back in the ring to fight the same white boy and got beat worse than the first time:mjlol:
 

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Lettuce be real, Malcolm hated whites and really never changed, just more politically correct since he was on his own without any backup. And he only changed his views because of the hate he was receiving within the noi
 

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I was talking with my homegirl the other day and she was telling me about how it's cool to read your rip of these or some other greek nikka. and i was like :ohhh: but have you ever read the Autobiography.

She said :whoa:, I'm not sure if I want to read a book by someone that hated white people his whole life. she is white. now this cause me to clear all that shyt up to the best of my ability and by the end of it i was like :beli: because you got motherfukkers out here white and black that probably have no idea what this dude even did.

wasn't part of the reason why dude was assassinated because he took his pilgrimmage, saw white muslims, and then wanted to change his style up? it's been about 2 years since i read it (for the 2nd time) but i'm pretty sure that's what happened. dude wasn't saying we should be mixing it up but the "you're a goddamn devil" shyt changed more into ":beli: just do you". we all belong to god, so to speak.

and while his activisism is what he was known for, there is a recurring theme of dude being stubborn but smart enough to not let his missteps ruin his life (until that last time when he was in too deep).

*Pulls up seat*...:beli:

Okaaaaaay...Breh...First off Bro Malcolm X(Malcolm Little) or better known to all muslims as El Hajj Malik Shabazz started off a thief and a pimp in life ok breh. He used to actually pimp out white women and steal from high end rich white folks before he went to prison and met the Minister. He knew how white people thought and operated well before he went into the faith. His own father was a target and eventually killed by the Klan because of his support for Garvey. So his "hate" was truth based on what he dealt with and what he saw other black people dealing with.He actually educated himself by reading the whole dictionary, word by word, this is where his incredible literacy came from. Malcolm went to more than just one hajj.What whites will tell you and what they've told the masses about Malcolm is in relation to just one of his hajjs to Mecca, which was in 1964 after he left the Nation.

But what it not noted much, is that Malcolm had a Hajj in 1959, and saw the same blue eyed white muslims as he would've seen in 64', so why didn't he say these things in 59' that would've given him this "change" on his stance of whites? Its because there was never a change. His quote was based upon what he witnessed. He never changed his stance on "Black Nationalism" or the fact that he felt Amerikkka needs to pay for its crimes.

Also did you know Malcolm did a speech a few weeks before he was killed in Harlem in January of 1965 in which he details and precisely breaks down our history and the crimes of white people, which he doesn't hold back. So this fairy tale that Malcolm changed and was all embracing of white people is a lie to tarnish his legacy, which was that of a Black Nationalist who believed in Black Power, Black Revolution and Black Survival first before he embraced anything or anybody. He was a Garveyite by Blood, thats why they killed his father and put his mother in a Mental Institution.

Check his speech out before he died here, it disspells this myth yall been told by apologists negroes and liberal whites that want to discourage Black power and revolution, as these were the same whites behind the purge in the 60's and 70's. http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/malconafamhist.html


The CIA/FBI had their hands in every assassination on international leaders, and domestic black leaders all through the 50's and 60's.....matter of fact one can call that age the assassination age, from the communist black listings that took place....to jfk/robert kennedy.... to malcolm and martin.

The CIA can be well perceived and given the name of the sickest Terrorist Organization on earth.

Also Patrice Lumumba, the well-known Pan Afrikanist brother out of the Congo region, is well-documented on having the CIA's hands all in his death, even a failed "toothpaste" poisoning that took place:

"I recognised him as he walked towards my car, but when he told me what they wanted done I was totally, totally taken aback", says Devlin now. "Joe from Paris" was better known as the CIA's chief technical officer, Dr Sidney Gottlieb. He had brought with him a special tube of poisoned toothpaste. Devlin's job was to get the toothpaste into Lumumba's bathroom".

http://www.africawithin.com/lumumba/who_killed_lumumba.htm

Believe me Malcolm as well as all other brothers who threatened white europeon/amerikkkan hedgmony across the globe, were "knocked off".....they just use "sheep" agents to throw the masses of our people into confusion, such as in this thread, and the many dialogues since malcolm's death.

I've always stated that Malcolm was tarnished by Orthodox Islam, which is a Arabic form of Isalm which is the same faith used to brainwash and enslave its followers.Malcolm had to acknowledge the "Blue Eyed" whites he saw in Mecca, because they were part of his faith, but he never once turned a side eye to his inner beliefs which was that these were the same people that enslaved and killed millions of Black people for centuries. But see as I tell others Christianity and Islam will "Blind" you into a blind following that can also make you numb. As I showed you earlier in January of 1965 well after these quotes and this Hajj, malcolm gave the best speech in probably Black history and in that as you can see, he references whites differently than those quotes after his hajj. See when one knows they are close to death and have nothing to lose, they will speak the truth, not worrying about religion or what someone else thinks. Malcolm was handcuffed by the very faith he latched on to in order to clean himself up.


So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..

What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.

:mjpls:
 

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which part to do you disagree with?

I just posted it to the OP. I'll post it to you:

So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..

What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.

:mjpls:
 

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*Pulls up seat*...:beli:

Okaaaaaay...Breh...First off Bro Malcolm X(Malcolm Little) or better known to all muslims as El Hajj Malik Shabazz started off a thief and a pimp in life ok breh. He used to actually pimp out white women and steal from high end rich white folks before he went to prison and met the Minister. He knew how white people thought and operated well before he went into the faith. His own father was a target and eventually killed by the Klan because of his support for Garvey. So his "hate" was truth based on what he dealt with and what he saw other black people dealing with.He actually educated himself by reading the whole dictionary, word by word, this is where his incredible literacy came from. Malcolm went to more than just one hajj.What whites will tell you and what they've told the masses about Malcolm is in relation to just one of his hajjs to Mecca, which was in 1964 after he left the Nation.

But what it not noted much, is that Malcolm had a Hajj in 1959, and saw the same blue eyed white muslims as he would've seen in 64', so why didn't he say these things in 59' that would've given him this "change" on his stance of whites? Its because there was never a change. His quote was based upon what he witnessed. He never changed his stance on "Black Nationalism" or the fact that he felt Amerikkka needs to pay for its crimes.

Also did you know Malcolm did a speech a few weeks before he was killed in Harlem in January of 1965 in which he details and precisely breaks down our history and the crimes of white people, which he doesn't hold back. So this fairy tale that Malcolm changed and was all embracing of white people is a lie to tarnish his legacy, which was that of a Black Nationalist who believed in Black Power, Black Revolution and Black Survival first before he embraced anything or anybody. He was a Garveyite by Blood, thats why they killed his father and put his mother in a Mental Institution.

Check his speech out before he died here, it disspells this myth yall been told by apologists negroes and liberal whites that want to discourage Black power and revolution, as these were the same whites behind the purge in the 60's and 70's. http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/malconafamhist.html


The CIA/FBI had their hands in every assassination on international leaders, and domestic black leaders all through the 50's and 60's.....matter of fact one can call that age the assassination age, from the communist black listings that took place....to jfk/robert kennedy.... to malcolm and martin.

The CIA can be well perceived and given the name of the sickest Terrorist Organization on earth.

Also Patrice Lumumba, the well-known Pan Afrikanist brother out of the Congo region, is well-documented on having the CIA's hands all in his death, even a failed "toothpaste" poisoning that took place:

"I recognised him as he walked towards my car, but when he told me what they wanted done I was totally, totally taken aback", says Devlin now. "Joe from Paris" was better known as the CIA's chief technical officer, Dr Sidney Gottlieb. He had brought with him a special tube of poisoned toothpaste. Devlin's job was to get the toothpaste into Lumumba's bathroom".

http://www.africawithin.com/lumumba/who_killed_lumumba.htm

Believe me Malcolm as well as all other brothers who threatened white europeon/amerikkkan hedgmony across the globe, were "knocked off".....they just use "sheep" agents to throw the masses of our people into confusion, such as in this thread, and the many dialogues since malcolm's death.

I've always stated that Malcolm was tarnished by Orthodox Islam, which is a Arabic form of Isalm which is the same faith used to brainwash and enslave its followers.Malcolm had to acknowledge the "Blue Eyed" whites he saw in Mecca, because they were part of his faith, but he never once turned a side eye to his inner beliefs which was that these were the same people that enslaved and killed millions of Black people for centuries. But see as I tell others Christianity and Islam will "Blind" you into a blind following that can also make you numb. As I showed you earlier in January of 1965 well after these quotes and this Hajj, malcolm gave the best speech in probably Black history and in that as you can see, he references whites differently than those quotes after his hajj. See when one knows they are close to death and have nothing to lose, they will speak the truth, not worrying about religion or what someone else thinks. Malcolm was handcuffed by the very faith he latched on to in order to clean himself up.


So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..

What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.

:mjpls:
Tl; dr :troll:

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:umad: lighten up, breh. Have a drink.
 

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I just posted it to the OP. I'll post it to you:

So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..

What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.

:mjpls:

I don't believe Elijah ordered Malcolm to be killed. I believe the Govt used/sparked internal conflict as the basis to be able to use agents to kill Malcolm and have nobody question outside activity. Elijah would rather had Malcolm outcasted and chastised eternally than to have him die. I believe the Govt used Agents in the NOI to be in Elijahs ear on some "Malcolm wants to be the face of NOI" and they got in Malcolms ear about Elijah. Everyone in the Nation already knew Elijah had Multiple wives.
 
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