Oh yea...J Edgar Hoover not only was a fakkit, he and the FBI were terrorists against Black Nationalists and those who they believed were commies.
Breh, am I misunderstanding the Autobiography of Malcolm X?
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Oh yea...J Edgar Hoover not only was a fakkit, he and the FBI were terrorists against Black Nationalists and those who they believed were commies.
I just posted it to the OP. I'll post it to you:
So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..
What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.
i think the FBI and Elijah Mohammad both fostered the environment in which Malcolm could be murdered. If someone did order the hit, we can infer it was Elijah Muhammad.
the FBI definitely instigated, provoked, and harassed both sides in the feud. manipulating tension
Yup prevent a Black Messiah. Elijah had a crazy movement, from what I see Elijah didn't like how Malcolm spoke about "killing whitey" and Malcolm was gaining popularity so it made the NOI an even bigger threat since people unfamiliar felt that the NOI was on that tip.
Many say Elijahs son Wallace was an FBI agent because his pops kicked him out the Nation, and when Elijah died most people thought Farrakhan would take lead, but Wallace came back into the Nation and assumed leadership and literally ran the NOI into bankruptcy and into the ground, then converted everyone to "traditional" Islam. When Louis re started the NOI it was never able to go back to how it was initially. Cats had the Economic game on smash, thats what made me really respect Elijah.
The FBI had agents within the NOI that sparked all of these "tensions", same as they've always done. Instigate and create a problem and then enact a murderous solution. In the modern era, they now just use someone that is close to you, family or friend or your race to enact that "solution"
The FBI had agents within the NOI that sparked all of these "tensions", same as they've always done. Instigate and create a problem and then enact a murderous solution. In the modern era, they now just use someone that is close to you, family or friend or your race to enact that "solution"
Elijah had no reason to want Malcolm dead, he pretty let Malcolm live in his own hell when people started turning against Malcolm and making is life a living hell. The beef was instigated, and Elijah not feeling sorry for Malcolm didn't help what the outside saw. But please believe the Govt ordered the hit, they had been following Malcolm for a while, no way they didn't know he was about to be touched.
Elijah simply got us to appreciate and love being Black and respect our women and protect ourselves based on our history and our origins, something that was lacking back then. Of course he latched this onto a movement based on Islamic faith, which I don't have a problem with. The NOI has been instrumental in a lot of things that has advanced Black thought and pride.
People in our community who don't understand the wickedness of amerikkka and specifically its "intelligence" services really need to go read up on its history. The FBI and CIA are drenched in the blood of peoples all over the world and that includes the assasination of Malcolm...and our people don't understand that you will never "SEE" them do it....
Why you tagging ppl that dont post in this sub no more??? This ain't a simp thread.
hu3ypdadon
All Star
Thank you*Pulls up seat*...
Okaaaaaay...Breh...First off Bro Malcolm X(Malcolm Little) or better known to all muslims as El Hajj Malik Shabazz started off a thief and a pimp in life ok breh. He used to actually pimp out white women and steal from high end rich white folks before he went to prison and met the Minister. He knew how white people thought and operated well before he went into the faith. His own father was a target and eventually killed by the Klan because of his support for Garvey. So his "hate" was truth based on what he dealt with and what he saw other black people dealing with.He actually educated himself by reading the whole dictionary, word by word, this is where his incredible literacy came from. Malcolm went to more than just one hajj.What whites will tell you and what they've told the masses about Malcolm is in relation to just one of his hajjs to Mecca, which was in 1964 after he left the Nation.
But what it not noted much, is that Malcolm had a Hajj in 1959, and saw the same blue eyed white muslims as he would've seen in 64', so why didn't he say these things in 59' that would've given him this "change" on his stance of whites? Its because there was never a change. His quote was based upon what he witnessed. He never changed his stance on "Black Nationalism" or the fact that he felt Amerikkka needs to pay for its crimes.
Also did you know Malcolm did a speech a few weeks before he was killed in Harlem in January of 1965 in which he details and precisely breaks down our history and the crimes of white people, which he doesn't hold back. So this fairy tale that Malcolm changed and was all embracing of white people is a lie to tarnish his legacy, which was that of a Black Nationalist who believed in Black Power, Black Revolution and Black Survival first before he embraced anything or anybody. He was a Garveyite by Blood, thats why they killed his father and put his mother in a Mental Institution.
Check his speech out before he died here, it disspells this myth yall been told by apologists negroes and liberal whites that want to discourage Black power and revolution, as these were the same whites behind the purge in the 60's and 70's. http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/malconafamhist.html
The CIA/FBI had their hands in every assassination on international leaders, and domestic black leaders all through the 50's and 60's.....matter of fact one can call that age the assassination age, from the communist black listings that took place....to jfk/robert kennedy.... to malcolm and martin.
The CIA can be well perceived and given the name of the sickest Terrorist Organization on earth.
Also Patrice Lumumba, the well-known Pan Afrikanist brother out of the Congo region, is well-documented on having the CIA's hands all in his death, even a failed "toothpaste" poisoning that took place:
"I recognised him as he walked towards my car, but when he told me what they wanted done I was totally, totally taken aback", says Devlin now. "Joe from Paris" was better known as the CIA's chief technical officer, Dr Sidney Gottlieb. He had brought with him a special tube of poisoned toothpaste. Devlin's job was to get the toothpaste into Lumumba's bathroom".
http://www.africawithin.com/lumumba/who_killed_lumumba.htm
Believe me Malcolm as well as all other brothers who threatened white europeon/amerikkkan hedgmony across the globe, were "knocked off".....they just use "sheep" agents to throw the masses of our people into confusion, such as in this thread, and the many dialogues since malcolm's death.
I've always stated that Malcolm was tarnished by Orthodox Islam, which is a Arabic form of Isalm which is the same faith used to brainwash and enslave its followers.Malcolm had to acknowledge the "Blue Eyed" whites he saw in Mecca, because they were part of his faith, but he never once turned a side eye to his inner beliefs which was that these were the same people that enslaved and killed millions of Black people for centuries. But see as I tell others Christianity and Islam will "Blind" you into a blind following that can also make you numb. As I showed you earlier in January of 1965 well after these quotes and this Hajj, malcolm gave the best speech in probably Black history and in that as you can see, he references whites differently than those quotes after his hajj. See when one knows they are close to death and have nothing to lose, they will speak the truth, not worrying about religion or what someone else thinks. Malcolm was handcuffed by the very faith he latched on to in order to clean himself up.
So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..
What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.
@Billy Costigan (i just started reading this thread (currently on page 1))
he was killed because at first he only catered to the black folk (his NOI era)
while Hoover was shadowing him, he was not THAT dangerous because hey.. black talk the talk but dont walk the walk.
Then he got expelled went on his Hajj and experienced "tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white."
now he became a threat. while he was still for the upliftment of his people, he also made good contacts with mostly african political leaders.
and no longer considered the white man as the devil "I am not a racist... In the past I permitted myself to be used... to make sweeping indictments of all white people, the entire white race, and these generalizations have caused injuries to some whites who perhaps did not deserve to be hurt."
The U.S. Government also feared Malcolm X’s growing international stature and the political connections he was making in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.
Malcolm X met with Che Guevara and the Cuban delegation to the United Nations in New York, in December of 1964. He was invited by Ahmed Ben Bella, the leader of the Algerian revolution, to participate along with Che and other independence movement leaders at a conference in Bandung beginning March 3, 1965. edit: He had also arranged for the issue of human rights violations against Afro-Americans to be considered on March 12, 1965, by the International Court of Justice at the Hague. His assassination put an end to all of this. Ben Bella was assasinated 4 months later.
thats why they killed him.
he was killed because at first he only catered to the black folk (his NOI era)
while Hoover was shadowing him, he was not THAT dangerous because hey.. black talk the talk but dont walk the walk.
Then he got expelled went on his Hajj and experienced "tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white."
now he became a threat. while he was still for the upliftment of his people, he also made good contacts with mostly african political leaders.
and no longer considered the white man as the devil "I am not a racist... In the past I permitted myself to be used... to make sweeping indictments of all white people, the entire white race, and these generalizations have caused injuries to some whites who perhaps did not deserve to be hurt."
The U.S. Government also feared Malcolm X’s growing international stature and the political connections he was making in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.
Malcolm X met with Che Guevara and the Cuban delegation to the United Nations in New York, in December of 1964. He was invited by Ahmed Ben Bella, the leader of the Algerian revolution, to participate along with Che and other independence movement leaders at a conference in Bandung beginning March 3, 1965. edit: He had also arranged for the issue of human rights violations against Afro-Americans to be considered on March 12, 1965, by the International Court of Justice at the Hague. His assassination put an end to all of this. Ben Bella was assasinated 4 months later.
thats why they killed him.
He got killed because he saw that the NOI leadership was corrupt. He didn't want to play along and instead wanted to a) Expose them for the scumbags that they were and b) Form his own Organisation.
Elijah Muhammed wasn't having it and he got killed.
don't forget, MI6>CIA when it comes to global imperialism and controlling mineral resources.
MI6
Agency overview
Formed 1909; 105 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Intelligence_Service
Malcolm X, Maya Angelou and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa - Kwame Nkrumah in Nigeria (Pictures)
The renaissance of the African continent (including Nigeria) has already begun - and as we look forward to a better and prosperous Africa, we need to celebrate some of our black heroes.
Here are some pictures of Malcolm X, Maya Angelou, and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa - and also Kwame Nkrumah, during his visit to Nigeria in 1959:
Malcolm X, Maya Angelou, and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa
Malcolm X in Nigeria (Circa 1964)
W.E.B Du Bois and Kwame Nkrumah in Ghana
Malcolm X in Ghana (Circa 1964)
Malcolm X and Maya Angelou in Ghana (Circa 1964)
Malcolm X in Egypt (Circa 1959)
Malcolm X in Ghana
Malcolm X in Ghana
Kwame Nkrumah in Nigeria (1959)
http://www.lasgidiboy.com/2012/05/malcolm-x-maya-angelou-and-web-du-bois.html
_________________________________________________
birthed by the U.K.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Shepherd_(film)
The Good Shepherd is a 2006 spy film produced and directed by Robert De Niro and starring Matt Damon, Angelina Jolie and De Niro, with an extensive supporting cast. De Niro also produced it with James G. Robinson and Jane Rosenthal.
Although it is a fictional film loosely based on real events, it is advertised as telling the untold story of the birth of counter-intelligence in the Central Intelligence Agency.
MI6
Agency overview
Formed 1909; 105 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Intelligence_Service
Malcolm X, Maya Angelou and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa - Kwame Nkrumah in Nigeria (Pictures)
The renaissance of the African continent (including Nigeria) has already begun - and as we look forward to a better and prosperous Africa, we need to celebrate some of our black heroes.
Here are some pictures of Malcolm X, Maya Angelou, and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa - and also Kwame Nkrumah, during his visit to Nigeria in 1959:
Malcolm X, Maya Angelou, and W.E.B Du Bois in Africa
Malcolm X in Nigeria (Circa 1964)
W.E.B Du Bois and Kwame Nkrumah in Ghana
Malcolm X in Ghana (Circa 1964)
Malcolm X and Maya Angelou in Ghana (Circa 1964)
Malcolm X in Egypt (Circa 1959)
Malcolm X in Ghana
Malcolm X in Ghana
Kwame Nkrumah in Nigeria (1959)
http://www.lasgidiboy.com/2012/05/malcolm-x-maya-angelou-and-web-du-bois.html
_________________________________________________
birthed by the U.K.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Shepherd_(film)
The Good Shepherd is a 2006 spy film produced and directed by Robert De Niro and starring Matt Damon, Angelina Jolie and De Niro, with an extensive supporting cast. De Niro also produced it with James G. Robinson and Jane Rosenthal.
Although it is a fictional film loosely based on real events, it is advertised as telling the untold story of the birth of counter-intelligence in the Central Intelligence Agency.
Didn't kno he didn't post here.
NobodyReally
Superstar
I guess what im saying is why isnt this book taught in high schools? it would be ideal although im not sure it would work
It is though.
Knicksman20
Superstar
*Pulls up seat*...
Okaaaaaay...Breh...First off Bro Malcolm X(Malcolm Little) or better known to all muslims as El Hajj Malik Shabazz started off a thief and a pimp in life ok breh. He used to actually pimp out white women and steal from high end rich white folks before he went to prison and met the Minister. He knew how white people thought and operated well before he went into the faith. His own father was a target and eventually killed by the Klan because of his support for Garvey. So his "hate" was truth based on what he dealt with and what he saw other black people dealing with.He actually educated himself by reading the whole dictionary, word by word, this is where his incredible literacy came from. Malcolm went to more than just one hajj.What whites will tell you and what they've told the masses about Malcolm is in relation to just one of his hajjs to Mecca, which was in 1964 after he left the Nation.
But what it not noted much, is that Malcolm had a Hajj in 1959, and saw the same blue eyed white muslims as he would've seen in 64', so why didn't he say these things in 59' that would've given him this "change" on his stance of whites? Its because there was never a change. His quote was based upon what he witnessed. He never changed his stance on "Black Nationalism" or the fact that he felt Amerikkka needs to pay for its crimes.
Also did you know Malcolm did a speech a few weeks before he was killed in Harlem in January of 1965 in which he details and precisely breaks down our history and the crimes of white people, which he doesn't hold back. So this fairy tale that Malcolm changed and was all embracing of white people is a lie to tarnish his legacy, which was that of a Black Nationalist who believed in Black Power, Black Revolution and Black Survival first before he embraced anything or anybody. He was a Garveyite by Blood, thats why they killed his father and put his mother in a Mental Institution.
Check his speech out before he died here, it disspells this myth yall been told by apologists negroes and liberal whites that want to discourage Black power and revolution, as these were the same whites behind the purge in the 60's and 70's. http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/malconafamhist.html
The CIA/FBI had their hands in every assassination on international leaders, and domestic black leaders all through the 50's and 60's.....matter of fact one can call that age the assassination age, from the communist black listings that took place....to jfk/robert kennedy.... to malcolm and martin.
The CIA can be well perceived and given the name of the sickest Terrorist Organization on earth.
Also Patrice Lumumba, the well-known Pan Afrikanist brother out of the Congo region, is well-documented on having the CIA's hands all in his death, even a failed "toothpaste" poisoning that took place:
"I recognised him as he walked towards my car, but when he told me what they wanted done I was totally, totally taken aback", says Devlin now. "Joe from Paris" was better known as the CIA's chief technical officer, Dr Sidney Gottlieb. He had brought with him a special tube of poisoned toothpaste. Devlin's job was to get the toothpaste into Lumumba's bathroom".
http://www.africawithin.com/lumumba/who_killed_lumumba.htm
Believe me Malcolm as well as all other brothers who threatened white europeon/amerikkkan hedgmony across the globe, were "knocked off".....they just use "sheep" agents to throw the masses of our people into confusion, such as in this thread, and the many dialogues since malcolm's death.
I've always stated that Malcolm was tarnished by Orthodox Islam, which is a Arabic form of Isalm which is the same faith used to brainwash and enslave its followers.Malcolm had to acknowledge the "Blue Eyed" whites he saw in Mecca, because they were part of his faith, but he never once turned a side eye to his inner beliefs which was that these were the same people that enslaved and killed millions of Black people for centuries. But see as I tell others Christianity and Islam will "Blind" you into a blind following that can also make you numb. As I showed you earlier in January of 1965 well after these quotes and this Hajj, malcolm gave the best speech in probably Black history and in that as you can see, he references whites differently than those quotes after his hajj. See when one knows they are close to death and have nothing to lose, they will speak the truth, not worrying about religion or what someone else thinks. Malcolm was handcuffed by the very faith he latched on to in order to clean himself up.
So, while I agree that the storyline of Elijah ordering Malcolms death for fear
of being exposed is plausible, I don't believe it is likely. There are too
many other factors outside the internal drama of the NOI. There were too
many other forces at work.. We all know that the Federal, State & Local
government police track, monitor and interfere with any and all perceived threats
to the status quo. Whether it is the branch davidians in Waco or the Nation of
Islam.. or a 25,000 member black church in Atlanta..
What do you thinkthe FBI does? Domestic surveillance, interference and assassination.
CIA, NSA - international surveillance, interference and assassination. Their
entire mission is protect the white male power structure--Period. And they
work tirelessly around the clock towards that end.. And, every single member
nation of the white male power structure has similar agencies doing the same
exact things. Look at the number of shows in the US based on undercover or
covert operations. They celebrate their cunning. It's a source of pride.
So, it's incredibly hard for me to believe that it was Elijah that had Malcolm killed and not J. Edgar Hoover.
Read this too:
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-s...m-x-evidence-of-us-intelligence-assassination