Brehs, would you support the NBA changing the rules to keep players in school longer?

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The NBA has no reason to ever promote the d-league. The nba thrives based on stars...No stars would or will ever play in the d-league.

All these guys are easily replaceable which is why you can pay them 18-20k a season

Promote it to HSers not promote it on TNT :laugh:
And what are you talking about stars for? You lost me on that one.
 

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Nah cuz I don't even follow college hoops anymore. :manny:

It would be nice if they actually got the D-league popping though. I read not too long ago that Greg fukking Ostertag was in the d-league. I don't think that's what it's for. :sitdown:
 

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If you choose to goto college, don't make a mockery of the shyt. 2/3 years should be required. I also think you should be able to do D-league straight outta high school. That would do more well, even though college peeps wouldn't like it.

So I guess I like the baseball rule... :yeshrug:
 

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If you choose to goto college, don't make a mockery of the shyt. 2/3 years should be required. I also think you should be able to do D-league straight outta high school. That would do more well, even though college peeps wouldn't like it.

So I guess I like the baseball rule... :yeshrug:

That would work if the D-League wasn't making a mockery of the game. It's all run and gun ball because instead playing the game the right way, everybody's a chucker. Trying to get the stat line right for the scouts. I think it's bad for a young players development.
 

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That would work if the D-League wasn't making a mockery of the game. It's all run and gun ball because instead playing the game the right way, everybody's a chucker. Trying to get the stat line right for the scouts. I think it's bad for a young players development.

No way a good ball player with potential goes to the D-Leage over a major D-1 college where he can be a TV star and the man on campus and all of the prestige & acclaim that comes with being a star player on that platform.
 

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No way a good ball player with potential goes to the D-Leage over a major D-1 college where he can be a TV star and the man on campus and all of the prestige & acclaim that comes with being a star player on that platform.

I agree with you, but it's not because they're loyal to D1 ball, it's because the NBA barely watches the D league. Imagine if the D League had clout like the minors in baseball.
 

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People just want to be entertained and if they think one format will be more entertaining than another, they''ll be all for it. But, they'll say it under the guise of platitudes like, "It'll make the game better," or, "The NCAA will be better for it." Maybe so, but I don't see how it's good for the player(s) at all (and I'm talking about guys who are stone-cold lottery picks locks, not fringe players). You don't learn how to play in the NBA in college. You learn how to play in college. You become an adept NBA player by having unlimited time to practice without any restrictions (i.e. not the highly restricted college format where practice hours are regulated and you have classes and study hall), playing against competition superior to yourself, better coaching, facilities, better scouting reports, training staffs, playing at the faster NBA pace, and so on. You don't get "NBA ready," by doing more figure eights and two ball dribble drills. So, no, I wouldn't be for it, but I also realize I don't own the players, something that's lost on a lot of fans.
 

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Im for no limit. If some kid thinks he is ready for the NBA and some Team also thinks he is ready and throws him a milli, good for him. I dont see any positives in forcing somebody to go to college to do something thats not gonna help him better himself at what he really wants to do. These guys are pretty much just taking up a seat in college for somebody that wants to be there. And instead of having to go to class, they could be using that time to work on thier game at a professional level.

How does going to college help these guys who are NBA bound? Did Rose benefit from college? Kyrie Irving? They pretty much just took up a seat and/or scholarship for somebody that wanted or needed to be there. It was a waste of thier time IMO.

Well that's why I said they should allow lottery picks to draft a player no matter age or years out of high school. If a team is willing to invest a top pick in a player they will really do their research and invest in said player. The other players not lottery material can go back to school to hone their craft and become lottery picks before their 3 years is up.
 

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I agree with this congressman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/sports/basketball/04webcohen.html?scp=3&sq=nba age&st=cse

Cohen said that one of his primary arguments against the rule, which is part of the collective bargaining agreement between the league and union, was that soldiers can fight for their country at age 18 but not play in the N.B.A. He also said noted that predominantly white sports like hockey, baseball and golf lack similar restrictions.

“There’s something wrong with keeping kids, who are more likely to be African-American than not, from playing professional basketball and football when they can help their families and communities immediately,” Cohen said. “They’re forced to go to school when they have no desire or interest in going to school.”
 

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NBA Players Need College? Prove It. - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

Each year, the National Basketball Association (NBA) conducts its annual entry draft (NBA Draft), which is the exclusive process by which premiere amateur players gain entrance into the NBA. To the dismay of many commentators, a number of drafted players will have just completed their senior year of high school. Routinely, these players are dismissed as immature, unprepared, and ill-advised, even though most will sign guaranteed, multi-million dollar contracts before their college educations would have begun.

In stark contrast to popular myth, this Article finds that players drafted straight out of high school are not only likely to do well in the NBA, but are likely to become better players than any other age group entering the league. In fact, on average, these players perform better in every major statistical category than does the average NBA player or the average NBA player of any age cohort. Beyond excellence in performance, high school players can also earn substantially more over the course of their NBA careers, largely due to the brief, but steep career earnings-curve of professional basketball players, as well as collectively-bargained labor conditions concerning free agency. Strikingly, players who bypass college may earn as much as $100 million more over the course of their careers than had they earned a college diploma.

These results may appear surprising and even unpopular, but they only represent predictable outcomes of the NBA's economic system, which, perhaps unintentionally, provides unambiguous incentives for premiere high school players to seek entrance into the NBA as soon as possible. In turn, since those players are often the most talented, they tend to develop at a uniquely accelerated rate, and thus their earlier arrival and longer stay ultimately benefits the NBA. At the same time, those high school players better off attending college tend to do so because of contrasting incentives generated by this same economic system. In short, high school players have proven to be the best group of players entering the NBA because the NBA's economic system dictates that very outcome.


Darryl Dawkins, Bill Willoughby, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Jermaine O?Neal, Taj McDavid, Tracy McGrady, Al Harrington, Rashard Lewis, Korleone Young, Ellis Richardson, Jonathan Bender, Leon Smith, Darius Miles, DeShawn Stevenson, Kwame Brown, Tyson Chandler, Eddy Curry, DeSagana Diop, Ousmane Cisse, Tony Key, Amare Stoudemire, DeAngelo Collins, Lenny Cooke, LeBron James, Travis Outlaw, Ndudi Ebbi, Kendrick Perkins, James Lang, Dwight Howard, Shaun Livingston, Sebastian Telfair, Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Dorell Wright, Martell Webster, Andrew Bynum, Gerald Green, C.J. Miles, Monta Ellis, Louis Williams, and Amir Johnson.

Of the 43 players drafted out of high school, only 10 have failed to play three or more seasons in the league.

Taj McDavid, Ellis Richardson, Tony Key, DeAngelo Collins, and Lenny Cooke went undrafted. Taj wasn?t even recruited by a Division I school. Korleone Young, Ousmane Cisse, and James Lang were second round draft picks. That means only two preps-to-pro players -- Leon Smith and Ndudi Ebbi -- failed to remain in the league after being selected in the first round.

Proponents of the NBA?s age limit like to argue that for every LeBron James there?s three or four Korleone Youngs, but as you can see ? that?s simply not true.
 

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This shyt isn't going to happen though because every team is looking for that next lebron, kobe, or KG. I just missed the days when college players coming into the league were actually pro ready and not projects.

Why would nikkas waste their time in college when they know they are NBA bound

This is how injuries happen. If nikkas wanna leave and get money than let them do that.

TBH I'm under the impression that NBA players get MORE injured now than before, but that may be just me paying more attention, or some other factors.


Better prepared, emotionally adjusted ball players.

Ball players with better technique & honing their skills at a pro level.

More development time with less pressure to be a star so quickly outta HS

I think it would only serve to improve the game

This, basically more time/leeway to "grow" into their own.


interesting, but two different issues: this proves that they STAY in the L, this thread -I think- is about the QUALITY of the L. A lot of very average players on that list :beli: and we all know that GMs are always stupid enough to throw money at big guys. For me I guy like Amar'e would've have benefited from going some time to College, could've worked on some moves and SOMEONE would've taught him some goddamn defense :aicmon:
 

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Keep throwing shade at the believers of the post :playahata:

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and that record is with your shining light at C :sadcam:

Better prepared, emotionally adjusted ball players.

Ball players with better technique & honing their skills at a pro level.

More development time with less pressure to be a star so quickly outta HS

I think it would only serve to improve the game

You'd be surprised at how easily this would backfire.

I'll paint you a picture.

Cavs draft LeBron. Send him to A ball in Buttfukk, Ohio.

Cavs getting culo blasted on a nightly basis while LeBron gets all this attention and endorsements is averaging 30, 10, and 10 for the Buttfukk Crabs.

20,000 people at the Q on a nightly basis: WE WANT LEBRON! WE WANT LEBRON! WE WANT LEBRON!
 
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