BREXIT - June 23rd 2016 vote - *ARTICLE 50 TRIGGERED!*

[theworldismine13]

What floodgates to Eastern Europe?

The free movement of labor is driven by the market.


Multiculturalism worries or affects you guys? I'm at a loss of words on that front.


The age groups of leave and remain you're just going to ignore?

I posted the article, when the Eastern European countries joined the EU, other countries had the right under the treaty to restrict migration, Blair deliberately removed the immigration controls, even though he wasn't required to

That is the floodgate I was referring to, those are basic facts that nobody disputes

I don't give a fuk about multiculturalism, black people need to stop being seduced by that word, black people need to focus on ownership and economic power, not on some corny left wing social engineering theory, white people dont have to like us for us to succeed

 

[Tom Foolery]

Despite concerns that competition from immigrants might harm employment prospects for native-born Americans, recent economic research suggests that, on average, immigrants raise wages and expand employment opportunities for Americans.

What New Immigrants Could Mean for American Wages

Did you even read the article? The wage increase is indirect and modest at best. Students are negatively impacted.

 

[Scoop]

Both models result in the same conclusion: the average impact of immigrants on wages for U.S.-born workers is positive. The wage gain may be small—0.18 percent for Ottaviano–Peri and 0.03 percent for Borjas–Katz—but nevertheless runs counter to the common belief that immigrants generally compete for jobs and bring down wages for U.S.-born workers.

1. But look at the graph I took from the article. The models don't agree at all on who gets hit and how much. How am I supposed to believe either then? Which one am I supposed to believe?

2. The average is an increase in both, but why should I care if it all goes to wealthy?

 

[Scoop]

English will not be an official EU language after Brexit, says senior MEP
No other EU country has English as their official language and so it could lose its status.

By
HORTENSE GOULARD

6/27/16, 5:47 PM CET

Updated 6/27/16, 7:55 PM CET

Danuta Hübner, the head of the European Parliament’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO), warned Monday that English will not be one of the European Union’s official languages after Britain leaves the EU.

English is one of the EU’s 24 official languages because the U.K. identified it as its own official language, Hübner said. But as soon as Britain completes the process to leave the EU, English could lose its status.

“We have a regulation … where every EU country has the right to notify one official language,” Hübner said. “The Irish have notified Gaelic, and the Maltese have notified Maltese, so you have only the U.K. notifying English.”

“If we don’t have the U.K., we don’t have English,” Hübner said.

English is one of the working languages in the European institutions, Hübner said, adding: “It’s actually the dominating language,” the one most frequently used by EU civil servants.

The regulation listing official languages of the EU would have to be changed unanimously by remaining countries if they want to keep English as an official language, Hübner said.

However, an EU source explained that the regulations governing official languages are themselves subject to more than one translation. The 1958 regulation regarding the official languages of the EU, which was originally written in French, does not say clearly whether a member country – Ireland or Malta for instance — can have more than one official language, an EU source said. Interpretations of the French wording tend to conclude that this might be possible, whereas the English version appears to rule this out.

When Ireland and Malta joined the EU, English was already an official language, which is why the two countries asked for Gaelic and Maltese to be added to the list.

“If a member state has more than one official language, the language to be used shall, at the request of such state, be governed by the general rules of its law,” the regulation says.

“The rules governing the languages of the EU institutions shall be determined by the Council, acting unanimously by means of a regulation,” a European Commission spokesperson said, adding the rules “have been amended several times to take account of the different enlargements.”

The Commission has already started using French and German more often in its external communications, as a symbolic move after Britain voted to leave the EU last Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Meanwhile, the president of the regional council of Tuscany, Eugenio Giani, called for Italian to become one of the official languages of the EU. “We have not defended … our language as we should have, both on the European continent and in the world,” Giani said following the British referendum result.

This article has been updated with additional reporting.

English will not be an official EU language after Brexit, says senior MEP

 

[Scoop]

@ThreeLetterAgency and @88m3 come on down

Kremlin Gets Flashback of Soviet Collapse in Brexit Fallout

Ilya Arkhipov world_reporter
June 27, 2016 — 6:31 AM EDTUpdated on June 27, 2016 — 9:13 AM EDT
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• Russians experienced similar sense of uncertainty, Peskov says
• Russia is interested in ‘stable’ Europe, Kremlin says

The upheaval in the U.K. after its Brexit referendum in favor of leaving the European Union has similarities to the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, according to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman.

While it’s “unreasonable to draw direct parallels,” it’s obvious that the U.K. is going through a “turbulent, confusing and unpredictable period,” Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call Monday. Russia “has gone through the collapse of the Soviet Union and many generations clearly remember the period of the Soviet collapse, that period of uncertainty.”

Russia’s recalling the trauma of the end of the Soviet Union as the U.K. wrestles with the consequences of becoming the first member state to choose to leave the EU, casting a shadow over the bloc’s future existence. The USSR was dissolved in December 1991, more than 18 months after Lithuania led the Baltic republics in declaring independence. The Baltic states of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia joined the EU in 2004 and all three have since adopted the euro as their currency. Putin called the Soviet collapse “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of the 20th century in 2005.

The ruble rallied the most among emerging-nation currencies, following oil on Monday, paring its sharpest drop in two months on Friday, when the shock referendum result hammered markets globally. It traded 0.4 percent stronger at 65.3533 per dollar at 3:29 p.m. in Moscow.

In the “current fragile situation, one black swan can pull others along with it,” Russian Finance Anton Siluanov said Friday in Moscow, referring to the economic impact of rare unpredictable events. Russian policy makers should be ready for negative scenarios in the global economy, he said.

The Kremlin is following events closely because of potential economic consequences, though there are “more questions than answers” now, Peskov said. Russia has often urged the U.K. to restore ties in recent years, and it will work to maintain good relations with the EU since it has an interest in a “stable, fast-developing and predictable” Europe, he said.

Kremlin Gets Flashback of Soviet Collapse in Brexit Fallout

 

[theworldismine13]

Both models result in the same conclusion: the average impact of immigrants on wages for U.S.-born workers is positive. The wage gain may be small—0.18 percent for Ottaviano–Peri and 0.03 percent for Borjas–Katz—but nevertheless runs counter to the common belief that immigrants generally compete for jobs and bring down wages for U.S.-born workers.

That's just word play

Yeah if you take the AVERAGE the impact is small, that is because your are taking the gains that are made by the upper class with the losses of the lower class, the average is nil

It doesn't change the fact that it hurts the lower class

You are essentially putting the interests of the high class ahead of the lower class by using the average

and you are hiding increasing inequality by using the average figure

 

[theworldismine13]

Both models result in the same conclusion: the average impact of immigrants on wages for U.S.-born workers is positive. The wage gain may be small—0.18 percent for Ottaviano–Peri and 0.03 percent for Borjas–Katz—but nevertheless runs counter to the common belief that immigrants generally compete for jobs and bring down wages for U.S.-born workers.

That's just word play

Yeah if you take the AVERAGE the impact is small, that is because your are taking the gains that are made by the upper class with the losses of the lower class, the average is nil

It doesn't change the fact that it hurts the lower class

You are essentially putting the interests of the high class ahead of the lower class by using the average

and you are hiding increasing inequality by using the average figure

 

[Trajan]

There is more to that than their net take from entitlements. For example it's not unreasonable to suggest that maybe the Britons are taking more from the system because the loss of jobs to immigrants has made them more reliant on it. So the net effect is still not positive.

Not really. You also forget that there are millions of UK workers in the EU. If everyone has to go back to their country then you have to find a job for all the returnees no? So no jobs are really created not to mention all the European investment in the UK which create jobs.

Alot of the working class areas that voted leave did not lose jobs to Poles. They are in former manufacturing/industrial towns which have been desolate since the the decline of British manufacturing. For example all Wales had was mining but that's been a wrap since the 1980s....Hull was a shipyard and a shipping centre...it's been a wrap since when? A long time. All of this had nothing to do with immigrants.

In fact most Poles/EU migrants live in London. They haven't taken any jobs away from Leave voters in the North. Unemployment at 5% is lower in the UK than just about anywhere else in the EU. Leaving is not going to change that lol.

 

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U.K.’s Nigel Farage: Obama behaved ‘disgracefully’ by campaigning against Brexit
By CRISTIANO LIMA

06/27/16 09:59 PM EDT

British Independence Party leader and longtime Brexit supporter Nigel Farage blasted President Barack Obama for weighing in on the British referendum to leave the European Union, negatively contrasting him with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

“Vladimir Putin behaved in a more statesmanlike manner than President Obama did in this referendum campaign. Obama came to Britain, and I think behaved disgracefully, telling us we would be at the back of the queue,” said Farage during an interview Monday on Fox News. "Vladimir Putin maintained his silence throughout the whole campaign.”

At a press conference during his visit to the U.K. in April, Obama urged Britons to support remaining in the European Union and warned that their country would move to the "back of the queue" for trade deals if they chose to leave the 28-country union. (Despite a backlash in the U.K. following those comments, the White House stood by them on Friday, noting Obama's interest in completing the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the EU.)

Farage, in his Fox News interview, also lashed out against the “global establishment” for seeking to intervene in the vote.

“Ultimately, this referendum wasn't decided by economic arguments. It was decided by a basic argument of sovereignty: Should we make our own laws in our own country?” he said. “We want to govern our own country. We want to make our own laws.”

Farage also dismissed the notion that the referendum was causing the past few days of global financial-market turmoil as “rubbish,” attributing it instead to underperforming companies and overinflated projections.

“The idea that Brexit is causing stock market losses is rubbish,” he said. “Every growth expectation in Britain gets marked down [and] our public finances are still way out of control. So, this hysteria about markets, let's end that. It's rubbish.”

Markets continued their downward slide on Monday — the Dow Jones Industrial Average, for instance, dropped 260 points after falling by more than 600 points to close out last week, and several ratings agencies downgraded the U.K.'s sovereign debt.

Farage, however, said that leaving the EU would boost British trade.

“Trade is not made by politicians. Trade is not made by bureaucrats. Trade is made by people watching this program,” he said.

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Nigel giving Obama globalist that work

 

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[Tony D'Amato]

U.K.’s Nigel Farage: Obama behaved ‘disgracefully’ by campaigning against Brexit
By CRISTIANO LIMA

06/27/16 09:59 PM EDT

British Independence Party leader and longtime Brexit supporter Nigel Farage blasted President Barack Obama for weighing in on the British referendum to leave the European Union, negatively contrasting him with Russian leader Vladimir Putin.

“Vladimir Putin behaved in a more statesmanlike manner than President Obama did in this referendum campaign. Obama came to Britain, and I think behaved disgracefully, telling us we would be at the back of the queue,” said Farage during an interview Monday on Fox News. "Vladimir Putin maintained his silence throughout the whole campaign.”

At a press conference during his visit to the U.K. in April, Obama urged Britons to support remaining in the European Union and warned that their country would move to the "back of the queue" for trade deals if they chose to leave the 28-country union. (Despite a backlash in the U.K. following those comments, the White House stood by them on Friday, noting Obama's interest in completing the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the EU.)

Farage, in his Fox News interview, also lashed out against the “global establishment” for seeking to intervene in the vote.

“Ultimately, this referendum wasn't decided by economic arguments. It was decided by a basic argument of sovereignty: Should we make our own laws in our own country?” he said. “We want to govern our own country. We want to make our own laws.”

Farage also dismissed the notion that the referendum was causing the past few days of global financial-market turmoil as “rubbish,” attributing it instead to underperforming companies and overinflated projections.

“The idea that Brexit is causing stock market losses is rubbish,” he said. “Every growth expectation in Britain gets marked down [and] our public finances are still way out of control. So, this hysteria about markets, let's end that. It's rubbish.”

Markets continued their downward slide on Monday — the Dow Jones Industrial Average, for instance, dropped 260 points after falling by more than 600 points to close out last week, and several ratings agencies downgraded the U.K.'s sovereign debt.

Farage, however, said that leaving the EU would boost British trade.

“Trade is not made by politicians. Trade is not made by bureaucrats. Trade is made by people watching this program,” he said.

Read more: U.K.’s Nigel Farage: Obama behaved ‘disgracefully’ by campaigning against Brexit
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Nigel giving Obama globalist that work

I'd hate to be this guy in about a yr. I get the feeling that the real pain has yet to come and when it does, ole boy gonna need asylum somewhere else.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

I'd hate to be this guy in about a yr. I get the feeling that the real pain has yet to come and when it does, ole boy gonna need asylum somewhere else.

A lot of people have said its a big privatization scheme and to erode workers rights. Time will tell and it won't be kind.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

A lot of people have said its a big privatization scheme and to erode workers rights. Time will tell and it won't be kind.

When u hear about how Russia helped fund the leave campaign, that would scare the shyt out of me if I was a citizen there. U can tell this thing wasn't really explained to them. Im just waiting for the EU to hulk up and bring the pain.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

When u hear about hoe Russia helped fund the leave campaign, that would scare the shyt out of me uf I was a citizen there. U can tell this thing was really explained to them. Im just waiting for the EU to hulk up and bring the pain.

Whole thing stinks the leave camp is rolling back all their "promises" too and has no plan forwards.

 

[CHL]

A lot of people have said its a big privatization scheme and to erode workers rights. Time will tell and it won't be kind.

Yup