Broussard lists his Top 20 NBA GOATs w/Tiers

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You probably don’t understand basketball as well as you may think you do. Or you’re too young to have watched any of his games; but he has a lot of legendary games that still get burn on NBATV and ESPN classic games and the such. So I’m not sure what it is, but Isiah is by far an all time great, and someone who actively sacrificed personal greatness in order to win titles.
I remember Isiah Thomas when he won those titles.

In the context of his era, sure.

I'm just not really a believer that he's this Tier 2 or 3 all time great when I've seen peak Chris Paul and Steph Curry.

Hate me all you guys want but I'll take Tony Parker, even if it reeks of homer-ism.

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List your top 10.
1 LeBron
2 Mike
3 Kareem
4 Magic
5 Bird
6 Russell
7 Duncan
8 Kobe
9 Shaq
10 Wilt

(11) Steph
(12) Dream

The Top 10 case stops with these guys as we sit here right now in 2025...

I have Kobe in my Top 10 but I'd entertain an argument for any of the guys under him, to be over him, because he doesn't have an impenetrable Top 10 case...

You sound dumb af. Kobe has been general consensus top 6-10 since he won his fifth ring. Alot of former players were giving him GOAT like status when he was alive.
Aaannnnnnnnddddddd.....a lot of people didn't, and still don't. Whats hilarious is you nikkas who claim to be basketball fans, act as if The Coli is the first and only place you've heard Kobe's historic placement debated. It's been a thing for years, he's always been a guy where a bunch of people ranked him super high, and a bunch of people didn't. Very little "middle ground/middle class" opinions on Kobe...

Either you have him dumb high or you have him fringe or outside the Top 10. These conversations about him didn't start on The Coli...
 
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Since we in here saying wild shyt …Who did MJ beat that was better than young MJ

He beat the guy that the media said was every bit as good as him if not better but just wasn’t on tv much so people didn’t know about

Outplayed however to the point people couldn’t picture it was once an argument :manny:
 

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read a bit on first page . here's my take:

goats : MJ Bron
sometimes goats: Kareem. Kobe.
Legends: Wilt. Shaq. magic. russel. Curry.
Tier S: Duncan. bird. keem.
Tier A: Durant. Thomas. West. Malone. Oscar Rob
B : Wade. Dirk. KG. Ai. dr j.
C: Robinson. Charles. cp3. jokic. gianis

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Whats the crieria? Jordan is Tier 1, no question. I'd put Magic and his 9 finals in 11 years up there too. LeBron & Kareem don't belong unless you doing longevity awards and in that case Mailman should be up there. I'd put Shaq in the regrets catagory.

Tier 1a. Shaq and Duncan don't belong at all.

Tier 2.. Isaih gotta go. I'm replacing him with Dwyane Wade

Tier 3 Shaq replaces Wade
 

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Whats the crieria? Jordan is Tier 1, no question. I'd put Magic and his 9 finals in 11 years up there too. LeBron & Kareem don't belong unless you doing longevity awards and in that case Mailman should be up there. I'd put Shaq in the regrets catagory.

Tier 1a. Shaq and Duncan don't belong at all.

Tier 2.. Isaih gotta go. I'm replacing him with Dwyane Wade

Tier 3 Shaq replaces Wade
Both won finals mvp 3 times
 

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I think some of Kobe’s antics in his career stop him from being in GOAT talks. I could never see Bron or Jordan doing this

Kobe was never liked by the media he was never gonna b in the GOAT conversation. They had to respect him due to his 2 titles without Shaq. If that didn't happen he'd be getting pissed on 3x's worse.
 

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And... Neither one are the best players at their respective positions
I think they looking at from a career aspect. You can bring up Bill Russell or Wilt but they didn’t play the talent Shaq and Duncan did. The power forwards Duncan played against year after year
Garnett,Dirk,CWebb,Rasheed Wallace,Antonio Mcdyess,Glenn Robinson etc the NBA at the 4 when Duncan played was serious. Antwan Jamison, Joe Smith, Karl Malone the 4 position was a tough cover.
 
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