Broussard lists his Top 20 NBA GOATs w/Tiers

[murksiderock]

The list is acutally not bad. We debate all we want but EVERY player who deserves top 10 CAN'T be top 10 and it's no consensus for the most part. Mike Bron Cap Magic Tim Kobe Shaq WIlt Bird and Russell means my list is missing cats like Dream Steph Jerry Moses Julius Oscar Joker KD etc. ANY of those 8 could have an argument and a legit one as being top 10 ever especially the first two. So we gotta stop taking these lists serious and just look at them as the subjective opinion that they are.

Some people like myself, may just enjoy talking about it. When I get bored with the conversation I leave it alone for awhile. But this is the first convo on Top 10 I've engaged in, in probably at least a year. It's fun to me...

For those who are like me, I don't think we care about Broussard's opinion. We enjoy the engagement with others and how they order the list. And really that's a microcosm of this board in general, there isn't a single topic over here that's so pertinent to inspire negative emotions, but a whole bunch of them do...

There are definitely people who get too worked up about shyt like this, I'm just speaking up for the assumption that engaging a topic like this means everyone is worked up about it. Sometimes we just like the conversation, and when we are tired of it or we don't......we don't involve ourselves in the conversation.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

How important is winning a championship? I mean you have players that have skill and right there with these greats but they don’t have the championships? As good as Bird was in the 80s you gotta mention Dominique.
Those Hawks teams was good they just couldn’t beat the Celtics though. Does that take away from Dominique as a player?

I think when you talking about the greatest players of all time championships are used as a way to separate players because in basketball the best player can dictate the outcome of series a majority of the time..So it’s hard to put guys with no rings above players who went out there and did it ..Especially if they was in the same era .

So guys like Nique,CP3,Ewing Will continue to be pushed down as more players build their resumes

 

[King Poetic]

Kevin Garnett could never be in my conversation

 

[28 Gramz]

1 LeBron
2 Mike
3 Kareem
4 Magic
5 Bird
6 Russell
7 Duncan
8 Kobe
9 Shaq
10 Wilt

(11) Steph
(12) Dream

The Top 10 case stops with these guys as we sit here right now in 2025...

I have Kobe in my Top 10 but I'd entertain an argument for any of the guys under him, to be over him, because he doesn't have an impenetrable Top 10 case...


Aaannnnnnnnddddddd.....a lot of people didn't, and still don't. Whats hilarious is you nikkas who claim to be basketball fans, act as if The Coli is the first and only place you've heard Kobe's historic placement debated. It's been a thing for years, he's always been a guy where a bunch of people ranked him super high, and a bunch of people didn't. Very little "middle ground/middle class" opinions on Kobe...

Either you have him dumb high or you have him fringe or outside the Top 10. These conversations about him didn't start on The Coli...

Never heard of Kobe outside the top 10. On thecoli or outside of it.

 

[HabitualChiller]

Kobe should be in tier 2. He's not better than Hakeem. The other guys in there have an argument, but I really dislike that a pure scorer who was known to shoot his team out of games [with minimal playmaking to boot] is posted as a top 10 player.

MJ and KD are also pure scorers who don't specialize anywhere else, but they were hyper-efficient, so they were almost ALWAYS a net positive for their teams.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Kobe should be in tier 2. He's not better than Hakeem. The other guys in there have an argument, but I really dislike that a pure scorer who was known to shoot his team out of games [with minimal playmaking to boot] is posted as a top 10 player.

MJ and KD are also pure scorers who don't specialize anywhere else, but they were hyper-efficient, so they were almost ALWAYS a net positive for their teams.

Jordan was 9 Time all NBA 1st team defense and won DPOY. But the coli says he didnt specialize anywhere else

 

[NotAHotep]

Jordan was 9 Time all NBA 1st team defense and won DPOY. But the coli says he didnt specialize anywhere else

An award that he got after bytching that Micheal Cooper won it a year prior.

The definition of a “Here nikka damn” award.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

An award that he got after bytching that Micheal Cooper won it a year prior.

The definition of a “Here nikka damn” award.

Is that all it took?

 

[VegasCAC]

what makes his list so important to garner this much attention?

I still marvel at how these TV personalities rankings get yall worked up in here.

I think the tiered approach from a national media figure is making it a bit more interesting than the usual discourse of hard rankings or Kobe vs. Jordan vs. Lebron nonsense.

It's a different (not really, but kind of) way to think about a very tired discourse

 

[Belize King]

This might be blasphemy but it's hard for me to see the all time greatness of Isiah Thomas.

That's just me. There have been so many guards over the years that in my mind, loom larger.

Nobody has Isiah as a top twenty player

No disrespect.

I think it consensus that he had a better career than Stockton, Kidd, Paul, and Nash. He is behind Jerry, Steph, Magic and Oscar. So he is a solid top 5 PG. Can't touch MJ and Kobe. Has he had a better career than Wade?

So if he's top 8 guard of all time, that means there are more than 12 forwards and centers with a better career. You can easily name 12 better careers. Plus people are crowning KD, Giannis and Jokic as top 15 already.

Zeke is still top 30 IMO.

 

[WesCrook]

Beat bird, magic, and Jordan in their primes, won finals MVP, went to 3 straight finals, won 2, but somehow isn't as good as David Robinson or Russell Westbrook

Isiah is literally the only player to get the better of Jordan head-to-head.

Sure, the Bulls swept the Pistons in '91, but that doesn't change the fact that the Pistons were having their way with them for multiple years prior.

 

[Remote]

Nobody has Isiah as a top twenty player

No disrespect.

I think it consensus that he had a better career than Stockton, Kidd, Paul, and Nash. He is behind Jerry, Steph, Magic and Oscar. So he is a solid top 5 PG. Can't touch MJ and Kobe. Has he had a better career than Wade?

So if he's top 8 guard of all time, that means there are more than 12 forwards and centers with a better career. You can easily name 12 better careers. Plus people are crowning KD, Giannis and Jokic as top 15 already.

Zeke is still top 30 IMO.

I can't think of anything Isiah Thomas did better than Tony Parker. He just took more shots.

 

[Belize King]

I think there's a consensus top 13, with Curry being added as a new member of the discourse. We have to respect Oscar, Wilt and Russell. Dream gets thrown into the top 13 as well. West misses the cut.

You see Kobe as high as 6 and as low as 12. I'm good with both those numbers.

Wilt and Russell are tough to rate. You see them both falling out the top 10 in recent years. Pre '79 NBA is

 

[Boonapalist]

Kobe should be in tier 2. He's not better than Hakeem. The other guys in there have an argument, but I really dislike that a pure scorer who was known to shoot his team out of games [with minimal playmaking to boot] is posted as a top 10 player.

MJ and KD are also pure scorers who don't specialize anywhere else, but they were hyper-efficient, so they were almost ALWAYS a net positive for their teams.

Minimal playmaking ? That was true before Phil Jackson got there but gtfoh.

He averaged 5 assists primarily in the triangle offense during the slowest paced era in NBA history. He was the main playmaker and floor general the last two titles of the 3 peat. It sure wasn’t Fisher no disrespect to him. And then after that he was still the primary playmaker.

His offenses were consistently top 10 regardless of the talent around him. That doesn’t happen from someone who’s just a pure scorer. And he was good on the glass and defense for a time(even if it was overrated).

The same goes for MJ too he was never just a pure scorer even during his rookie year. And KD’s been more than that since 2013.

Besides Hakeem being better than Kobe your post is bullshyt

 

[Rekkapryde]

not a terrible or ridiculous ranking.