Broward County Dem Zoe's don't stand behind Kodak

[IllmaticDelta]

Haitian criminals operated on their own and were adults during those times.

A Haitian group gang or organization? I don’t think so. Or else this would have been known via news reports.

For example everyone knows about the Jamaican Shower Posse and their criminal and sociopath elements during the crack wars.

The Haitians who were crazy 9 out of 10 times did their own people dirty or they hung around with a crew that wasn’t Haitian.

I don’t know of any history of Haitians pushing work in a black area and getting Chased out during the 70s and 80s.

You have to at least have one source to verify this.

Haitian gangsters ain't new. I think you mean they didn't have modern "sets" type gangs but they clearly had what one might call a gangstas/cliques

is the work of roaming thugs -- called "zenglendoes" in the native
Creole -- who mug and kill for money, keeping the city on edge.

Haitian capital suffers grind of violent crime

or

The Tonton Macoutes: The Central Nervous System of Haiti’s Reign of Terror

 

[Biscayne]

lie.

Every racial/ethnic group has it's groups of criminals and sociopaths.

The only difference is when those people migrate here and continue that same anti-social behavior, foreigners blame the new country instead of their own shiity parenting.

There was a Haitian dude in Miami moving KILOS back in the 80's and 90's. He used to frequent Little Haiti. Then he became a kingpin in Haiti. So there were always individuals. My relatives knew him:

The Rise and Fall of Haitian Drug Lord Jacques Ketant

 

[IllmaticDelta]

lie.

Every racial/ethnic group has it's groups of criminals and sociopaths.

The only difference is when those people migrate here and continue that same anti-social behavior, foreigners blame the new country instead of their own shiity parenting.

see post https://www.thecoli.com/threads/bro...tand-behind-kodak.703567/page-9#post-33348687

 

[Biscayne]

Most people who have Haitian heritage have family in Miami,West Palm Beach, Orlando (and maybe Jacksonville). I have family
mostly in South Florida.
Haitian Americans have written articles and books about this common experience.
Wyclef had skit and a few references to it on Fugees and solo albums, Edwidge Danticat has written about it. Less famous Haitian artists and celebs from Miami have discussed it over the years.



No, it's a matter of you taking a story about encounters between street dudes, and falsely elaborating this to be the sole cause or root of AA/Haitian conflicts in South Florida.

Miami Herald archives would have articles about the physical assaults of Haitian students and the illegal discrimination by landlords and employers......You know, documented EVIDENCE of the tension which occured way before this street encounter you detailed earlier.

Fat that you're using the " trust the word of Cubans over AAs " card instead of understanding that I was pointing to documented proof of tensions, shows me that you're just trying to save face after being called out.

To be fair, I want to assume that the Miami Herald didn't do the leg work back then, to identify if those who were targeting haitians were Bahamians or AA's. Haitians used to get finessed samething serious in those days. I missed that era by 10yrs. I'm younger than the OG's by a decade, but also older than Kodak by quite some years.

 

[truth2you]

Haitian criminals operated on their own and were adults during those times.

A Haitian group gang or organization? I don’t think so. Or else this would have been known via news reports.

For example everyone knows about the Jamaican Shower Posse and their criminal and sociopath elements during the crack wars.

The Haitians who were crazy 9 out of 10 times did their own people dirty or they hung around with a crew that wasn’t Haitian.

I don’t know of any history of Haitians pushing work in a black area and getting Chased out during the 70s and 80s.

You have to at least have one source to verify this.

That happened because a lot of Haitians didn't tell people they were Haitian. Being openly Haitian didn't happen until the 90's.

Plus, haitians weren't like some other west indians, they had pride but not to the point they push Haiti all day, like Jamaicans. That means you would find a Haitian in all types of crews. Haitians were the coolest out of all west indians, IF they mingled with us, and weren't straight from the Islands. When they were straight from the islands, their dressing was crazy, high waters for days, and they listened to the weak people in their group, and that means disrespect. You know how that ends. If you don't, it means violence

 

[tuckgod]

Support seems to vary....

I don't know who Money is but he A1 with me

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Haitian gangsters ain't new. I think you mean they didn't have modern "sets" type gangs but they clearly had what one might call a gangstas/cliques



Haitian capital suffers grind of violent crime

or

The Tonton Macoutes: The Central Nervous System of Haiti’s Reign of Terror

Yea I’m referring to Ricky Fontaine who claims the AA vs Haitian fighting came from hood Haitians trying to “set up” shop.

No the reality is the Haitian gangs started to protect Haitian kids being bullied.

It’s weird because when you watch documentaries on Zoe pound both AAs and Haitians agree.

But whenever I come online there seem to be some people who for some reason can’t accept this and change the narrative.

Not saying there weren’t Haitian criminals or crews but before the Zoe gang they def were only hurting their own or running with non Haitian crews.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

That happened because a lot of Haitians didn't tell people they were Haitian. Being openly Haitian didn't happen until the 90's.

Plus, haitians weren't like some other west indians, they had pride but not to the point they push Haiti all day, like Jamaicans. That means you would find a Haitian in all types of crews. Haitians were the coolest out of all west indians, IF they mingled with us, and weren't straight from the Islands. When they were straight from the islands, their dressing was crazy, high waters for days, and they listened to the weak people in their group, and that means disrespect. You know how that ends. If you don't, it means violence

This scenario is straight facts.

 

[intruder]

Probably still sending hoes money thru Western Union

Just did this afternoon.

 

[get these nets]

To be fair, I want to assume that the Miami Herald didn't do the leg work back then, to identify if those who were targeting haitians were Bahamians or AA's. Haitians used to get finessed samething serious in those days. I missed that era by 10yrs. I'm younger than the OG's by a decade, but also older than Kodak by quite some years.

That poster didn't throw Bahamians into the mix, he said he acknowledged AA/Haitian tension, but he attributes the root of it to be an extension of street shyt.
I introduced the point about news reports of physical assaults and discrimination that would predate whatever story he was told about Haitians trying to run over established street dudes in the projects.

The newspapers/police blotter/tv news would cover that the beatings/assaults happened, not who did them. Haitians were catching Ls down there before the Miami riots happened.

 

[desjardins]

What is it about Haitians that made them more targeted than other black immigrant groups?
i use to think it was because they were all frail and skinny looking until I started seeing kimbo slice sized haitians
From nyc to florida all you use to hear are stories about haitians getting they ass whupped and terrorized in public schools
Kind of amazing how they flipped the whole narrative to being these feared gangsters over the course of 20-30 yrs

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

In America y’all still some nikkas...

If y’all want to rep y’all shyt cool but don’t act like y’all culture dont contain all the same bad and good elements of every culture on earth.


Saying “Haitian parents don’t play that” like African Americans parents promote degeneracy or something.

 

[Biscayne]

Old school footage of the Goombay Festival. These folks have been co habitating with AA's for a minute. You can even see a breh in the vid wearing a Frat Hat:

 

[Dzali OG]

not afram

they can be jamaican-american, haitian-american, trini-american etc...

If your parents were born here, you are afram.

There is no genetic difference separating us. Your parents will have assimilated into afram culture and at best have remnants of immigrant culture they stubbornly cling too. Their children will be fully assimilated aframs.

 

[Dzali OG]

The conflict between ados and Haitians came from ignorance and lack of communication.

We were on some c00n shyt to keep it real...some "I maybe black but I'm not Haitian black". Trying to have someone lower on the ladder than us.

Also it didn't help that Haitian and other immigrants tend to not talk at first but just stare at you on some . Plus they couldn't get their dress code together. If it were the 90s their clothes were from the 80s. In the 80s their clothes were from the 70s.

They didn't come here with the materialism mindset.