Building muscle in a caloric deficit

[ShenJingPoQi]

.bruh, the only thing I'm disputing is his claim that he put on 6 lbs of muscle during a 3 day fast. And I don't know what you mean about protein protective because once your body goes into ketosis your liver is gonna start using fat AND protein as a means to produce glucose.

I don't know about you but I'm trying keep muscle and going into gluconeogenesis for an additional 48 hours is a recipe to lose muscle and fat, not gain 6 lbs of the former

Few things,

The body doesn’t produce fat, but creates ketones from fat through the liver.
Body can’t never make protein, it has to be consumed dietary
Gluconeogensis is a quick and easy processed which hardily has a negative impact on performance and growth

But yea, all things 6 pounds of lean muscle in 2 weeks isn’t likely and isn’t truth. Unless you can produce real evidence or someone else can. It’s always better to a skeptic

 

[Swagnificent]

.bruh, the only thing I'm disputing is his claim that he put on 6 lbs of muscle during a 3 day fast.

Get the fukk outta here. Half the shyt you've challenged me on are basics involving fasting. If all you were doubting is my claim that I gained 6 lbs of muscle in 2 weeks I woulda did you like homeboy with the first reply to this thread that said my scale must be broke.

 

[Swagnificent]

I don't know about you but I'm trying keep muscle and going into gluconeogenesis for an additional 48 hours is a recipe to lose muscle and fat, not gain 6 lbs of the former

Watch the video of the doctor I posted. He refutes this assertion you're making. You don't lose muscle by fasting. And there is no gluconeogenesis for 48 hours.

Why the hell would the body break down muscle to turn protein into glucose for energy when it has stored body fat for that purpose? That makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Y'all believe this cac troll went 72 hours without food and water?

 

[ShenJingPoQi]

Y'all believe this cac troll went 72 hours without food and water?

People give cacs way too much credit on this forum. NOI talking about one meal every three days for half a century if not more.

CAC this CAC that, SMH

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Watch the video of the doctor I posted. He refutes this assertion you're making. You don't lose muscle by fasting. And there is no gluconeogenesis for 48 hours.

Why the hell would the body break down muscle to turn protein into glucose for energy when it has stored body fat for that purpose? That makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective.

I was about to thrash you but I'll refrain. Explain to me scientifically why it does not make sense

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Watch the video of the doctor I posted. He refutes this assertion you're making. You don't lose muscle by fasting. And there is no gluconeogenesis for 48 hours.

Why the hell would the body break down muscle to turn protein into glucose for energy when it has stored body fat for that purpose? That makes no sense from an evolutionary perspective.

BTW this is actually really common.

 

[Absolut]

Legitimately one of the dumbest motherfukkers I’ve ever seen. anorexic and thinks going days without water is healthy. Hope you shrivel up and die you lusting after preteen children fukking creep

 

[010101]

it's not 6 pounds of muscle gained

you got 6 pounds of shyte backed up

ha

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[Absolut]

I’m here to argue the merits of fasting. Until he posts before and after picture I think all internet life stories are ducktales. But I agree with him on the premises of fasting.

No ones arguing about a 16 hour daily fast. He claimed in the other thread there’s tons of new research and Recommending Long term multi day fasts and I asked for links and the thread was deader than disco after. Absolutely zero real medical professionals and scientists recommend going days without food and water Over the long term for the average individual. It’s absolute bullshyt he’s spewing. I’m from Vegas. Imagine someone else in town reading some of this online quack bullshyt from some doc who is simultaneously hocking a “fasting guide” to earn money because they don’t practice real medicine and trying to lead a normal life going multiple days without water. You’d be legitimately lucky to come out of that alive in this climate.

 

[karim]

it's not 6 pounds of muscle gained

you got 6 pounds of shyte backed up

ha

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[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

I gotta feeling you’re shorter than 5’10”, at that weight level...

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

This shyt is like debating with a scientist over climate change/global warming. All the science is against you yet you still got folk out here believing lies over actual data mufukkas saying they gaining muscle without protein intake yet every bodybuilder is obsessed with protein intake.

 

[Absolut]

Before a tumbleweed starts blowing thru this soon to be barren thread, Where are the peer reviewed/published studies advocating for the general population to employ long term multi-day 72-96 hour food and water fasts for health benefits by medical professionals and scientists?

 

[Swagnificent]

I was about to thrash you but I'll refrain. Explain to me scientifically why it does not make sense

Why does our body store fat dumbass? Isn't the evolutionary purpose for fat storage so that the body can have an energy source to survive on when it can't find food to eat? So when you deny your body food to eat you think instead of running on that stored fat the body will instead choose to start breaking down muscle to turn into glucose? What sense does that make?

Wouldn't it make more sense for the body to spare muscle tissue until all fat reserves have been depleted? That way the body can stay strong and continue to look for food so it can survive. If the body did what you are suggesting then it would start breaking down muscle as soon as it runs out of food thereby leading to its own early death as thd body is then incapable of foraging for food to survive. All the while leaving the stored fat reserves on full. Once again tell me how that makes any sense.

Dr. Fung made this exact point in his video. Fasting does not cause muscle loss. In fact it is the most muscle sparing practice because it activates the body's latent defense mechanisms. And there is no time more important for sparing muscle than when the body knows its not getting food. That is when the body wants you to be as strong as possible so you can find food and survive. The only time the body will turn to breaking down muscle tissue to turn into glucose is when the fat reserves are totally depleted. And that is what you see in famine zones with those little kids that starve to death. So get it straight. Fat exists so that it can be an energy source for the body when it runs out of food. The body does not need to break down muscle as long as it has sufficient fat reserves.