Bust Simmons - Sixers 2022 Season Thread

[KingBeez]

I have no trust in Elton Brand as GM.

Resigning Harris to a long term deal, as well as picking up Horford were some of the most idiotic moves to make short and long term. He didn’t address losing two big pieces in JJ Reddikk and Jimmy Butler.

Funny enough, I was telling my homie that I wanted TJ Warren, and that we should’ve let Harris go, but he told me that Warrens 18PPG in Phoenix were empty

I guess I was right

BTW: Harris makes more money than Butler

 

[jdashmaj]

So who are the candidates you are looking at for HC because I’m almost positive a coaching change and some player changes outside of Ben and Joel are on the way.

Tim Legler, Kenny Akinson, Adrian Griffin, or Sam Cassell.

 

[jdashmaj]

I have no trust in Elton Brand as GM.

Resigning Harris to a long term deal, as well as picking up Horford were some of the most idiotic moves to make short and long term. He didn’t address losing two big pieces in JJ Reddikk and Jimmy Butler.

Funny enough, I was telling my homie that I wanted TJ Warren, and that we should’ve let Harris go, but he told me that Warrens 18PPG in Phoenix were empty

I guess I was right

BTW: Harris makes more money than Butler

He makes more than Ben and Joel too. on what other team is the 3rd best player, who’s cap is role player getting paid more than the 2 best players?

 

[KingBeez]

Tim Legler, Kenny Akinson, Adrian Griffin, or Sam Cassell.

I forgot about Sam and Adrian

Adrian Griffin coached a good game for the raptors last game of the bubble, id love to see what he can do with this team

 

[KingJay]

I feel like last year was our opportunity if Embiid didn’t get “sick” before game 4 and Ben and Tobias didn’t also have a disappearing act the same game we would more than likely be the champs. We’d actually have run it back but I don’t think we have much wiggle room at this point.
Unless Ben becomes more aggressive and Biid’s conditioning becomes better we’re looking at another mediocre yr.
The 2017/18 and 18/19 teams were better rosters for Ben and Joel. We need shooters it’s funny we the fans have seen this but our GMs haven’t Moving forward I’m not really concerned with any of teams you mentioned. The Nets are who I’m concerned with say we actually get both Joel and Ben to make the next step, Brett is fired, we get Buddy and some more shooters getting past that scrappy Nets team with a presumably healthy Kyrie and Durant is unlikely. If they can stay healthy they’ll likely run the East for yr. I never believed in the Bucks and still don’t today’s game is just an example. They shrink every year in the playoffs and when that contract is up if they don’t win before his contract is up Giannis is out.

You can say you're not concerned about them, but can you say we're better than those teams? No way we're better than the Bucks. Toronto is already better than us, always developing more guys, Siakam will take another step forward, and will soon have a ton of cap space. Boston's better and their success is built off of super young wings in Tatum and Brown who should only get better, and they're already better - imagine if they find a serviceable 5? Miami has great player development, already better than us, young guys in Herro and Bam who should get better, and ~28mil in cap space if they want it. No way we beat a healthy Brooklyn, that team is absolutely stacked with star power and depth.

I've been the big proponent of a Buddy trade. That and a new coach and I think we could be back in the mix, but we've gotta shake things up and move Al and fire Brett for sure. It's the only hope. I'm not too worried about Joel's conditioning honestly, I think he's looked good for the most part in the bubble and it's improved year-to-year. If Ben develops a shot then everything just works beautifully of course and I like our odds against anyone - he immediately vaults into MVP discussions perennially - but we can't count on that anymore.

 

[jdashmaj]

You can say you're not concerned about them, but can you say we're better than those teams? No way we're better than the Bucks. Toronto is already better than us, always developing more guys, Siakam will take another step forward, and will soon have a ton of cap space. Boston's better and their success is built off of super young wings in Tatum and Brown who should only get better, and they're already better - imagine if they find a serviceable 5? Miami has great player development, already better than us, young guys in Herro and Bam who should get better, and ~28mil in cap space if they want it. No way we beat a healthy Brooklyn, that team is absolutely stacked with star power and depth.

I've been the big proponent of a Buddy trade. That and a new coach and I think we could be back in the mix, but we've gotta shake things up and move Al and fire Brett for sure. It's the only hope. I'm not too worried about Joel's conditioning honestly, I think he's looked good for the most part in the bubble and it's improved year-to-year. If Ben develops a shot then everything just works beautifully of course and I like our odds against anyone - he immediately vaults into MVP discussions perennially - but we can't count on that anymore.

My whole premise is based off of getting rid of Brett and retooling by next season. Brand built a team that looks good on paper but is too offensively inefficient and slow for today’s game. Ben and Embiid would have to play like Kareem and Magic for this currently constructed team to do anything. What I’m saying is if we do everything right this offseason I don’t think it will matter. Because if Durant and Kyrie stay healthy we have to deal with a potential juggernaut of a team for the next 5 seasons. Say we wait them out we have a 31 yr old Embiid with more wear and tare and a 27 yr old Ben if they aren’t traded by then. I honestly hold a little hope this season call me crazy, I’m not giving up on them until it finally over

 

[KingJay]

My whole premise is based off of getting rid of Brett and retooling by next season. Brand built a team that looks good on paper but is too offensively inefficient and slow for today’s game. Ben and Embiid would have to play like Kareem and Magic for this currently constructed team to do anything. What I’m saying is if we do everything right this offseason I don’t think it will matter. Because if Durant and Kyrie stay healthy we have to deal with a potential juggernaut of a team for the next 5 seasons. Say we wait them out we have a 31 yr old Embiid with more wear and tare and a 27 yr old Ben if they aren’t traded by then. I honestly hold a little hope this season call me crazy, I’m not giving up on them until it finally over

I will call you crazy on this season lol, but I do think they can get past Boston. Better coach and I'd almost be confident in them beating Boston even. I can't blame you for feeling that way, I feel somewhat similarly on these other teams. If you think that's the scenario, tbh why not just blow it all up? We're just wasting our time lowkey

 

[jdashmaj]

I will call you crazy on this season lol, but I do think they can get past Boston. Better coach and I'd almost be confident in them beating Boston even. I can't blame you for feeling that way, I feel somewhat similarly on these other teams. If you think that's the scenario, tbh why not just blow it all up? We're just wasting our time lowkey

While I may feel that way I think if it ever clicks with those 2 they can be the best players in the league. I’m not 100% certain it will happen but looking at all the players we gave up on within the last decade I’m afraid of losing another we undervalued ending up contributing to a contender i.e Igoudala and Lou, Shamet,etc . Also I don’t trust this team to rebuild given how they muffed up this current rebuilt

 

[KingJay]

While I may feel that way I think if it ever clicks with those 2 they can be the best players in the league. I’m not 100% certain it will happen but looking at all the players we gave up on within the last decade I’m afraid of losing another we undervalued ending up contributing to a contender i.e Igoudala and Lou, Shamet,etc . Also I don’t trust this team to rebuild given how they muffed up this current rebuilt

Part of me worries that while we wait for things to click they get disgruntled and walk because we have no cap space and low draft assets to build around these guys and make the necessary changes to this roster.

I don't trust our FO either, but drafting may be the only thing they've done alright on. 2018 I can't blame them for Zhaire having allergies, and getting an additional 1st was good such good value it landed us Tobias. Drafting Shamet at 26 and Shake at 54 were excellent selections. 2019 getting Matisse at 20 was great value.

You don't really need to be a great GM if to some extent if you draft high enough. You have high enough picks, you go #1 in a great draft, guys like LeBron can just fall in your lap. I love the 2021 draft class, and I'd love to get in the Emoni Bates sweepstakes

 

[AAKing23]

We made 3 huge blunders over the last couple of years that are hard to come back from

1) Drafting Markelle Fultz
2) Jimmy Butler trade ( that I was not a fan of)
3) Al Horford Signing


All three of these are serious blows that will make it hard for us to come back from. The only one I can't blame them for is Fultz because no one saw that coming. The Jimmy Butler trade was stupid and short-sighted, you don't make that move without an agreement that he will resign with you and it cost us Cov, Redikk and Saric ultimately. The Al Horford signing was also a stupid move that I fear we may not be able to recover from. You pray that you can get Buddy Hield through a trade but it's still unlikely

All that flexibility we had is gone and ain't no picks, swaps or Hinkie walking through that door. But what we can do is get some people in charge that know what they're doing. And that can start with moving on with the Brett Brown era. Elton Brand I'm willing to give him another chance but he has one more blunder to make and I'll be calling for his head as well. I do believe GM's need about 5 years to fully implement their vision.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I have no trust in Elton Brand as GM.

Resigning Harris to a long term deal, as well as picking up Horford were some of the most idiotic moves to make short and long term. He didn’t address losing two big pieces in JJ Reddikk and Jimmy Butler.

Funny enough, I was telling my homie that I wanted TJ Warren, and that we should’ve let Harris go, but he told me that Warrens 18PPG in Phoenix were empty

I guess I was right

BTW: Harris makes more money than Butler

But when I said I wish we got someone with experience, I was called all sorts of c00ns

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So who are the candidates you are looking at for HC because I’m almost positive a coaching change and some player changes outside of Ben and Joel are on the way.

Lue or Mark Jackson... Gentry... Somebody out there dammit.. Fizdale... Kidd... Dammit hire Becky Hammon... Just get this guy the fukk up out of here

 

[AAKing23]

It hurts brehs but it needs to happen I hope we get swept

 

[jdashmaj]

Brett, Brand, Tobias, and Al all need to go

 

[Leasy]

Brett, Brand, Tobias, and Al all need to go

Hopefully this is the offseason it happens. Atleast we have some pieces if a coach wants to come here. Embiid Simmons Matisse Shake