BW complaining because the BM she WANTS do not see her as exotic

V Skyye

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to be honest I can't relate to any of this, my dad was dark skin and had kids with dark or brown skin women.

I have never seen good looking dark skin person have it hard in dating. You can may be argue that a below avg light skin person may get 1-2 more "points" but in reality them folks aint ending up in any situation of quality so who fukking cares. Women are selfish as shyt and most of their complaints stem from why isn't the person I`m not qualified for trying to sweep me off my feet
Honestly, I’ve seen and heard it from both men and women. They’ll tell you what color their newborn is before they even say if they have 10 fingers and toes if the baby is light. Just look around on this site and see how skin color is used to quantify women’s attractivenes (redbone, yellowbone, etc). You don’t notice until you really notice. But we’re living in a white society. So it is what it is.

I do try to be empathetic because I’ve seen darker women in my friend group get completely ignored by men and sometimes men are almost hostile. But I’ve also gotten ignored if I was with better looking friends so I didnt take it that deeply (for example one of my dark skinned friends is absolutely beautiful). But I remember dating a dark skinned breh a long time ago and he told me he usually only dates light skinned women and went on to tell me how many white girls he dated in the past. I kept it moving and didn’t think much of it. But a person with lower self esteem may have taken it differently. And thinking back, how hurt did he have to be to even say that to me? So I don’t deny what people feel because it’s real and these things happen often.

We are told daily that Black people are less than overall and then within the Black race there’s an unofficial caste system of worthiness by phenotype. If you ask children who’s the most attractive person in their class they will more than likely say a person who’s light, mixed or non black. It’s a lot that’s deeply ingrained, so I try to not be too harsh on people and just encourage everyone to love themselves. If you can’t do that, no one else will.

But one thing I do believe is that denial is not the solution. Just with anything else you see it, accept it, try to instill love and confidence in your own kids, and move on.
 

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Honestly, a lot of dark men and women like to have kids with lighter skinned people with the hopes that their kids won’t go through what they did. A lot of men and women suffer from the effects of colorism so I won’t downplay it, although I find the way both genders cope to be annoying.

This is true but I think the opposites attract dynamic is at play too. Otherwise, what does the light skinned person benefit from having a kid that supposedly will have more adverse issues with colorism? Almost all the LS Black women I knew when I was younger married or had kids by dark skinned dudes. Light skinned dudes were less consistent.

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Not sure this makes anyone feel better but one of the things I gained living/working in Asia, Brazil, and Europe is I realized that though colorism exists and it is global, Black Americans probably have done the best job by far to fight against it, especially since the 60s. Outside of Africa there are very few places where there are Black people where lighter skin is often a proxy for social and economic hierarchy. That has mostly died off here except for some legacy families.

I can't tell you how many people in Asia and Black folks in Europe use skin lightening cream. It's crazy when I went to Black beauty stores in France, the skin lightening cream was ALWAYS in the front window or the front aisle cap. Let's not even talk India.

Most Black parents these days aren't telling kids to stay out the sun or do other crazy shyt to look light. That happens A LOT elsewhere.
 

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hey’ll tell you what color their newborn is
Yeah I've seen that too but it makes no sense...a lot of AA babies come out light as hell in the beginning. My kids were all like Vanessa Williams complexion when they popped out but are now closer to Eddie Murphy (like my wife and I).
 

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Ironically they hate their dark black skin but want someone else to love it lol
Almost as if blackness hasn’t been vilified for hundreds of years causing its victims and their descendants to suffer great mental depressions from it.

There’s so much people can learn from history, yet no one wants to actually go looking for it.
 

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The idea that white men do not desire lighter skinned (IE WHITE) women is utterly insane in this context. First off she is attractive no doubt, but the casual way she smears black men based on her experience is laughable. It's also worth noting, how the fukk do you even know these black men desire a light skinned woman? Did they dump you and date one? Why is that a problem, but you dumping a black man and dating a white man isn't a problem? This is the double standard. I don't care who the fukk you date, it says nothing about your blackness. I'm dating a brown ass Mexican American woman. Sue me. As long as you aren't dating outside your race while denigrating your race, it shouldn't matter. But you cannot effectively claim that when you date outside your race, it's for justifiable reasons ("if you're fine you're fine") but if a black man dates someone lighter than you it must mean he always craved light skin. The insecurity is insane.
 

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The idea that white men do not desire lighter skinned (IE WHITE) women is utterly insane in this context.

Even when they date Black women the tilt is towards mixed or lighter chicks many times. I don't get where they think White dating society is immune from colorism. Otherwise why are BW (and BM) in the bottom of the rank in these online dating studies?
 

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I agree with everything you said except women can’t get over it

You can by 1) improving your aesthetics (fitness, makeup, fashion, surgery), and improving your personality / non tangible skills

Both are things both men and women can do but women have a higher ceiling as far as approving aesthetics go than men
Oh you’re definitely right, but when you wipe the makeup off— that’s what I mean.

And of course improving one’s personality, getting in the gym, etc are all factors.

When I say looks I’m referring to natural beauty. No surgeon changing your nose, no excessive makeup that makes you look like a different person, etc. Throw on some moisturizer and lipstick, brows on point and your face is done.

Anyway, I’m talking about initial attraction/approaches.

How can a man get to know your personality if he automatically writes you off because of complexion/looks?
 

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She’s my type physically :yeshrug:

So many black women have this victim mentality tho it’s so unattractive

Ironically they hate their dark black skin but want someone else to love it lol
It’s not hating your own skin. It’s developing insecurities or self-hate based on treatment from others.

A lot of women with darker complexions are not affirmed in society. And when you’re KIDS/teens let’s not front like most young guys are drawn to the LS girls. That’s the beauty standard and that’s when that shyt hits hardest— when kids are starting to have crushes and date and talk about who they want to date, etc. Those childhood scars
 

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Why can’t everyone just admit Serena Williams ain’t all too attractive? It’s crazy asl people(black women especially) trying to convince everyone that she is.
Eh. Again, looks are a touchy subject, and when you look at the way she has altered her looks with all that surgery…it’s very clear she’s insecure about what you noted above.
We aren’t going to speak on that when it’s clear she’s feeling unattractive in a white world, in a white sport, etc. We’re going to lift her up. Plus she’s the GOAT. We aren’t discussing her looks
 

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A lot of women with darker complexions are not affirmed in society. And when you’re KIDS/teens let’s not front like most young guys are drawn to the LS girls.

I'm honestly worried about this with my sons. Not that I am colorist and say anything down about my wife, their dark skinned mom, it's just that for my wife's job we now live in a mostly White area and literally, 75% of the Black kids in his school are mixed. I am more surprised to see a Black-Black couple now than an IR one.

Not that I mind if they dated mixed girls since I am not one of those "mixed can't be Black" people and growing up in the 80s/90s I always considered mixed people Black as a whole. If they are the majority of Black women around him I would rather my sons date them than reject Black women entirely, but I worry that may set a preference early on that may cause them to overlook women like their mom. But maybe I am overthinking it.
 

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Even when they date Black women the tilt is towards mixed or lighter chicks many times. I don't get where they think White dating society is immune from colorism. Otherwise why are BW (and BM) in the bottom of the rank in these online dating studies?

Actually it’s BW & Asian men.
 

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@Gloxina

Lighter skin women are put on the pedestal for a reason. They're more palatable towards Eurocentric standards. Music videos being the main factor of exposure. Examples being Beyonce, Tyra Banks, Halle Barry etc.



Starting in the 90's and 00's, women like Naomi Campbell, Foxy Brown, Kelly Rowland and Kenya Moore started to put darker skin sistas on the map. To combat the stereotype "darker skin women aren't attractive"

The paradigm started to shift when platforms such as "Dark Skin Women" on IG started to blow up in the 2010's. Appreciation for chocolate women started to increased heavily.


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^^ Given the right tools and money, any woman can upgrade herself to be a baddie
 
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