Cam Explains Why He Left Jalen Hurts Off His Top 10 QBs List

[BucciMane]

In a weird way as a 49er fan this is similar to the Brock Purdy argument but even less fair. Jalen is more than what he does on the field. First off the tush push doesn't work as well as it does without Hurts incredible lower body strength. He performs at key moments in the game and I would even argue his maturity works as a counter balance to Nick Siriani's brashness. In every big game he has made several key plays to move the game forward. Will he ever be the QB that throws for 4500 yards and 40 TDs, probably not but he is more integral to what the Eagles run than people realize. Just speaking to last year he was absolutely a top QB and he should be where CJ Stroud is at minimum.

I see what you're saying, and I thought of Purdy as well when thinking of Hurts because of what you just said. I think people want to discredit QB's that have great talent around them at times, although I understand you have to take rosters into consideration.

 

[yseJ]

In a weird way as a 49er fan this is similar to the Brock Purdy argument but even less fair. Jalen is more than what he does on the field. First off the tush push doesn't work as well as it does without Hurts incredible lower body strength. He performs at key moments in the game and I would even argue his maturity works as a counter balance to Nick Siriani's brashness. In every big game he has made several key plays to move the game forward. Will he ever be the QB that throws for 4500 yards and 40 TDs, probably not but he is more integral to what the Eagles run than people realize. Just speaking to last year he was absolutely a top QB and he should be where CJ Stroud is at minimum.

I was about to say at least cam is consistent with this (purdy and jalen) but then I saw he put jared goff at number 6

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

When Hurts got to his 1st Super Bowl without Saquon all we heard was how it was fraudulent because they didn't play anybody and had a cupcake schedule and road to the SB.

Dude is named Super Bowl MVP and his team annihilates what 75% of the country were calling the greatest dynasty in the history of pro football just hours before the game, in large part because of HIS performance in the game, and he somehow walks away with even less respect than he got for losing the SB 2 years earlier.

I forget which one of my Byrd Gang brehs said it, but he hit the nail on the head when he said that the 2024-2025 Eagles squad has to be the first "Super Team" comprised of players that nobody wanted.

QB isn't a plug and play position. The Eagles offense was built around Jalen Hurts. Saquon isn't sniffing the all-time rushing record with 8 or 9 of those QBs under center. If he's on a super team, he's partially what makes them a super team.

And again, why is Joe Burrow given pass after pass (no pun intended) for his years of failures in this league with the offensive weapons he's had to work with? Jalen has had more than twice as many offensive coordinators than Baker, Jayden, CJ Stroud, and Herbert have playoff wins.

Nobody was putting Baker Mayfield in their top anything when he was getting bounced around the league with different coaches and coordinators like some QB thot. Jalen has 2 HC and 5 different OCs in 5 years, produces 2 SB appearances, 1 Chip with SB MVP, and runner up as MVP 2 years ago, yet HE'S holding the franchise back and ranked barely above half the QBs in the league?

I get that this is all rage bait and summer doldrums sports talk slop, but gimme a break with this nonsense. At WORST he's top 5.

 

[NYC Rebel]

We should be proud that Jalen is in these type of arguments. Jalen is the 1st Black qb in our lifetime that had a team built around his strengths & weaknesses and typically qbs who play and succeed in those conditions get downplayed or overhyped.

 

[yseJ]

We should be proud that Jalen is in these type of arguments. Jalen is the 1st Black qb in our lifetime that had a team built around his strengths & weaknesses and typically qbs who play and succeed in those conditions get downplayed or overhyped.

Id argue Russ and Lamar are also in the conversation. Russ was surrounded by good playmakers outside the numbers and a great run game. People always shat on seahawks not getting a good pass blocking oline, but russ strengths were not staying in pocket too long anyway

Lamar, they have been building around his strength as a runner for years now. Them running pistol so much in Baltimore so much is def building around his strength and that 22 personnel rate is a nightmare for any team to stop the run.

But Jalen is definitely the best example of this. the AJ Brown trade was honestly one of the most underrated, even now it is as well. Perfect WR for Jalen.

 

[KidJSoul]

They won the SB, in dominant fashion over the two time defending champs, with Saquon being held in check. How much better can you do than that? You aren't gonna throw for a billion yds when you got a RB challenging the all time rushing record. He made the plays that needed to be made and they got a chip. Nobody is saying he is GOAT but that should at least warrant you a spot in the top 3rd of the league.

This is such a ridiculous thing to say when they done won the Super Bowl and he was mvp lol

Smh you guys playing dense

He has AJ Brown and Devonta Smith. Great o-line. And Goddard.

He should be #1 in every efficiency stat.

He had too many games where he played some type of way.

I ain't ever said he isnt good. Or that he deserves 0 credit for the super bowl ring.

Its not hard to see why you rank several QBs ahead of him FFS.

Lamar or Allen in the Eagles and they are winning a super bowl AND break ing passing records.

Hell let me say this: Hurts should have had a season on par or better with what he had in 2022. That's not asking much

 

[aceboon]

 

[Reality Check]

fukkin Baker Mayfield as a top 10 QB

He needs to be smacked for this shyt

I thought I was going to have more QB's where I didn't have to think twice about taking over him, but my list for that is shorter than I thought.

Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow


There are probably some other QB's I'd take over him just based on the eye test, but those are the only ones where I instantly say "no" to taking him over.


-Then you have players like Dak, Goff, Mayfield, and Stafford that have been around for a long time. I can see arguments for them, but I can also see how people aren't huge on then.

-You then have some of the younger QB's such as Herbert, Love, Daniels, Stroud, and Lawrence. Again, I may take some of them over Hurts, but we've seen QB's like Stroud take a step back after their rookie season. We'll see if the same happens with Jayden.



I did everything I could not to put Drake Maye on here, although he will be on every top ten list after this year.

It's remarkable the lengths people will go to discredit Hurts.

Critics can bring up all these QB's, but the undisputed fact is the 2024 Eagles beat Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow, Goff, Stafford, and Daniels (twice). The last time the Eagles played Josh Allen, Hurts had 5 TD's (3 passing, 2 running).

Don't matter what anybody thinks. He got that chip

Bingo. A lot of this is hatred and jealously that a) former QB's who couldn't win the big one have and b) hot takers couldn't anoint Mahomes as a legend by getting a three peat.

 

[etrofllenrod504]

Smh you guys playing dense

He has AJ Brown and Devonta Smith. Great o-line. And Goddard.

He should be #1 in every efficiency stat.

He had too many games where he played some type of way.

I ain't ever said he isnt good. Or that he deserves 0 credit for the super bowl ring.

Its not hard to see why you rank several QBs ahead of him FFS.

Lamar or Allen in the Eagles and they are winning a super bowl AND break ing passing records.

Hell let me say this: Hurts should have had a season on par or better with what he had in 2022. That's not asking much

You say the thing about Joe B? He been throwing to ELITE wides since LSU.


All this if X player was on X team is absolute bullshyt hypothetical. Tom Brady had Moss and guess what happened?? After setting all those record that season? They lost in the Super Bowl. So stop the nonsense just cause you have talent equals automatic champion.

I’ve seen NOTHING from Lamar or Allen(both constantly losing in the playoffs to patty)to make me believe they get to the super bowl with that squad. What I have seen is Jalen with the team that drafted him go to TWO superbowls(while constantly having OC changes)and ball out in both with Saq and without.

And guess who in both opportunities against Patty outplayed him. JALEN and that’s fact not some goofy ass hypothetical shyt that doesn’t exist.

 

[BrehWyatt]

You say the thing about Joe B? He been throwing to ELITE wides since LSU.

Burrow's OL has steadily ranked bottom of the league whether in pass blocking or run blocking. Sans that, this is a VERY valid point.

 

[Sbp]

He is a winner but to me he’s like how people describe Troy akiman a guy who wins but never puts up crazy stats and always gets discredited for his teams

Aikman would've always been in everybody's the top 10 during his prime though

 

[BrehWyatt]

Aikman would've always been in everybody's the top 10 during his prime though

Yeah... that's the thing. Aikman's stats look pedestrian, but based on the standard of QB play during his time, he was one of the most accurate and productive QBs in the game. He spent several seasons among the NFL's best in completion percentage, yards, passer rating, etc.

Jalen is somewhat being punished for not having big passing numbers in an era where almost any QB with a modicum of talent can throw for 4,000 yards and/or 25-30 TD a year. And with what surrounds him, one should understandably expect him to clear that benchmark on a regular basis.

However, that isn't what Philly's offense calls for from its QB. He, for the most part, successfully executes what the offense calls for. And that's the QB's job.

 

[FTBS]

Smh you guys playing dense

He has AJ Brown and Devonta Smith. Great o-line. And Goddard.

He should be #1 in every efficiency stat.

He had too many games where he played some type of way.

I ain't ever said he isnt good. Or that he deserves 0 credit for the super bowl ring.

Its not hard to see why you rank several QBs ahead of him FFS.

Lamar or Allen in the Eagles and they are winning a super bowl AND break ing passing records.

Hell let me say this: Hurts should have had a season on par or better with what he had in 2022. That's not asking much

Ok you established why he shouldn't be above or even with Mahomes. I dont think anyone is arguing that. But we talkin top 10 here. How exactly has Herbert or Mayfield or Goff or Stafford or CJ or Daniels (its one season) separated themselves from him? There is no way a white QB in his shoes is not in the top 10.

 

[BrehWyatt]

Ok you established why he shouldn't be above or even with Mahomes. I dont think anyone is arguing that. But we talkin top 10 here. How exactly has Herbert or Mayfield or Goff or Stafford or CJ or Daniels (its one season) separated themselves from him? There is no way a white QB in his shoes is not in the top 10.

I think Herbert has considerably more arm talent than Hurts, but neither he, CJ or Daniels should be ahead of Hurts. I'd concede Mayfield as well.

 

[KidJSoul]

You say the thing about Joe B? He been throwing to ELITE wides since LSU.


All this if X player was on X team is absolute bullshyt hypothetical. Tom Brady had Moss and guess what happened?? After setting all those record that season? They lost in the Super Bowl. So stop the nonsense just cause you have talent equals automatic champion.

I’ve seen NOTHING from Lamar or Allen(both constantly losing in the playoffs to patty)to make me believe they get to the super bowl with that squad. What I have seen is Jalen with the team that drafted him go to TWO superbowls(while constantly having OC changes)and ball out in both with Saq and without.

And guess who in both opportunities against Patty outplayed him. JALEN and that’s fact not some goofy ass hypothetical shyt that doesn’t exist.

Burrow with his weapons is throwing for 40 TOUCHDOWNS.

And has a shyt o-line for most of his career doing this.


Thats the point.

I dont know why you guys are being dense.

Cam isnt even shytting on hurts.

Be real: how can a guy be a top 10 QB when we were DISAPPOINTED in him for more than half the season?

Rookie Jaden Daniels was doing more wirh less than this dude.