Can an argument be made that todays rappers are more talented than "golden era" rappers??

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Ok... but this is entertainment

If future wanted to rap about systematic injustice than he could

You don't get props over here for saying "something" in your music. We don't need rappers for that


Why do you assume he could?

It actually takes talent to make a song about those topics and keep it entertaining.
 

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Creatively as a whole Hip-Hop is more accepting. Ends there tho. Songs aren't as dense with bars as they use to be, all adlibs and extending with melodies now. Sounds like this gen ain't got much to say. A lot of this would have been unacceptable in the past, too hit/singles driven now.
This.

Here's the thing....

I have absolutely no problem with each generation identifying with its own particular brand or style of Hip Hop.

In fact, I have no problem with each generation of having a certain degree of pride in their generation such that they feel it is superior comparatively speaking to the brands and styles of rap created by other generations in Hip-Hop. Like, people have opinions, it's cool if young cats don't like what you like, they're not compelled to do so.

The PROBLEM I have is that the same younger generation that we're discussing seems completely oblivious and ignorant to the HISTORICITY of rap such that they dismiss it....and they do it deliberately and willfully. And they don't see the problem with that, not realizing that that's a HUGE problem. No group of people committed to anything ever on Earth has ever thrived by NOT learning from their history. So this purposeful ideology about shyttin on all things older is damaging to the culture.
 
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This.

Here's the thing....

I have absolutely no problem with each generation identifying with its own particular brand or style of Hip Hop.

In fact, I have no problem with each generation of having a certain degree of pride in their generation such that they feel it is superior comparatively speaking to the brands and styles of rap created by other generations in Hip-Hop. Like, people have opinions, it's cool if young cats don't like what you like, they're not compelled to do so.

The PROBLEM I have is that the same younger generation that we're discussing seems completely oblivious and ignorant to the HISTORICITY of rap such that they dismiss it....and they do it deliberately and willfully. And they don't see the problem with that, not realizing that that's a HUGE problem. No group of people committed to anything ever on Earth has ever thrived by NOT learning from their history. So this purposeful ideology about shyttin on all things older is damaging to the culture.

That's why I say the peeps using this rhetoric are outsiders to the culture. They don't give a damn about the music really they just wave riders, but truthfully they just trolling.
 

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Who told you this?

No it doesn't


No one had to tell me this. Being able to drop jewels while being nice on the mic takes extra effort.

Stating otherwise is just cognitive dissonance.

Again, what makes you think that future can deliver both?
 

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No one had to tell me this. Being able to drop jewels while being nice on the mic takes extra effort.

Stating otherwise is just cognitive dissonance.

Again, what makes you think that future can deliver both?
Drop Jewels?

Stating surface level issues plaguing the black community isn't Dropping "jewels" unless you are a white person trying to learn about something from the perspective of a rapper
 
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The 90s had a wide range of rappers from salt n peppa, kid n play, big daddy Kane, MC hammer who could all cut up a floor.

Mase, biggie, busta rhymes, dmx, Wu tang clan, jay z, ATCQ, Missy Elliott, e40, too short, tupac, bone thugz N harmony, Ice Cube, Snoop, Mobb Deep, nas, AZ, Nwa, Nate Dogg, etc.

There were regional sounds back then that made that decade more distinct.
 

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Drop Jewels?

Stating surface level issues plaguing the black community isn't Dropping "jewels" unless you are a white person trying to learn about something from the perspective of a rapper


I'm black. That white card ain't gonna work on me.


And why do you assume any rap song talking about any sort of issue is only doing it at the surface level?





Neither one of those songs is surface level material.

I still haven't seen anything from future to suggest that he could write a song like the ones posted above. It's not his lane and I'm cool with that.
 

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I'm black. That white card ain't gonna work on me.


And why do you assume any rap song talking about any sort of issue is only doing it at the surface level?





Neither one of those songs is surface level material.

I still haven't seen anything from future to suggest that he could write a song like the ones posted above. It's not his lane and I'm cool with that.

I wouldnt dare press play on that second song.

Yes, I gave you power is surface level.

Illegal handguns get floated around the hood. Who doesnt know that?
 

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I wouldnt dare press play on that second song.

Yes, I gave you power is surface level.

Illegal handguns get floated around the hood. Who doesnt know that?
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Golden era rappers were like the van gogh and Michelangelo of rap. Todays rappers are more like art Institute painters that made it big
 
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