Can anybody please explain why you never hear people say" what abt White on white crime"

[KOohbt]

All you gotta do is say black people only common crime when they poor. Pullbup them middle and up black folks and see what the crime stats are.

 

[Gold]

most attention draw to "white" behavior, violence or otherwise, is usually drawn juxtaposed to other racial group. They get to be the invisible standard because of the control of the conversation and the placement of other races or groups within the conversation. Thats my opinion though

Sadly this is very true.

They get to be the "default".

"If you are killing yourselves more than white people, you are the problem"

"If you are killing yourselves less than white people, you are the anomaly and you will soon gravitate towards the mean"

But the actual rate at which white people kill themselves on all income brackets is never questioned.

 

[NoChillJones]

Cause white folks control the narrative and because it is easier to dog non white folks and color them like animals. Even though white folks have been the most violent people historically for over 500 years.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Sadly this is very true.

They get to be the "default".

"If you are killing yourselves more than white people, you are the problem"

"If you are killing yourselves less than white people, you are the anomaly and you will soon gravitate towards the mean"

But the actual rate at which white people kill themselves on all income brackets is never questioned.

i remember i had a discussion about conversation control in terms of race relations. truth is, if you put someone in a position of doubt or skepticism from the outset of the "argument" and they chose to enter into the conversation in an attempt to disprove the idea, they're already fighting an up hill battle.

 

[5010]

The problem is not the "black on black" because yes most crimes are usually committed against someone of the same race. The problem is the RATE of black on black crime. For every 1000 white people, 2.6 will be murdered. For every 1000 black people, 18.3 will be murdered. So you're talking almost 9 times the rate.

Except white people don't have any empathy towards these statistics. They just use it as a tool of deflection to marginalize an entire race. That's just what they do. They change the rules as they see fit. I'll even give you one that's about to play out, now.

Let's compare the commentary here where a black teen was dumped from her chair and dragged. Then had her name dragged through the mud online. (We're talking about a child, here)


Now let's keep an eye on how it plays out now that we have a white face involved. I'm willing to bet the investigative journalism will hone in on the cop.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

I really can't stand when black ppl play dumb about this kind of shyt, you know exactly why you laughed off Slim Jesus.

He got the reaction that he got because his whole routine was little more than blackface.

There are practically no white southside of Chicagos, eastside Detroits, Camdens, Newarks, Brownsvilles, South Centrals etc

Can you even name a single city/area in the entire country where whites are killing each other like black ppl have been doing in the places mentioned above for decades? Just a single one?

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Eastern KY and the entire Appalachia region routinely has murder rates comparable with the above.

non-coincidentally enough, it also happens to be the poorest white region in the country. If the law was actually enforced in that area to the same degree that it is in poor black areas and at the same time that area was equally deprived of the same wealth, resources, education, loans, jobs and etc. that poor black neighborhoods throughout the country are deprived of, you'd have your answer.

 

[LuckyLibra619]

It's not about the percentage of intraracial crime. Of course most crime will occur within the same community or around the same race of peoples, that's common sense; even these so called racist white devils will agree with you on that, but have you looked at the total numbers?

2014 stats:

Whites committed 2,756 total murders
Blacks committed 2,693 total murders

Whites made up 62.6% of population(79% including hispanics who checked "white")
Blacks made up 13.2% of population

Whites committed 63 more murders in 2014. A peoples that outnumber another by nearly 5:1, committed only 63 more murders. I hate to use "only" in this instance, but, when you look back at that ratio... yeah.

Then when you realize that hispanics are included in the "race of offender" category as white... subtract them and whites actually commit less annual murder than a peoples who they outnumber by nearly 5:1.. think about that..

I guess people will conveniently ignore this post.

 

[LuckyLibra619]

Obviously , but we cant neglect the conditions and circumstances that fuel it , most peop le ITT arguing against OP is making it seem as if blacks are killing other blacks just for no reason without dwelling on poverty , controplieo , the deliberate and calculated destruction of black neighborhoods etc

And now the goalpost is being moved, fam. The Whole premise of this thread seems to be that Black on Black crime isn't really all that bad and it's being overblown by the media or Black on Black crime is equal to White on White crime.

Now stats are being posted that completely destroy those arguments and the goalpost is being moved to "Yes, Black on Black crime is high but there are certain circumstances that create that condition".

So which is it? Is Black on Black crime just being overblown by the media?
Or is it a terrible problem in our community that needs to be addressed?

PS - I've said this time and time again. I don't think being poor should ever be a reason/excuse for Black men to kill one another.

 

[y2flyy]

Good point. I think my response would be, even if the media did call it white on white crime, for our country white = American so the issue would be more about semantics rather than the media trying to push the notion that only white people should care about this issue. In other words, if something is problem for white Americans then it is a problem for America as a whole. Whereas, if something is a problem for a Black America, then it is a problem for only Black America and every other part of America should not be concerned. No one but the most extreme conservatives, is telling white America to get over the heroin crisis on their own. Instead, the heroine crisis has become a major part of this years presidential campaign.
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You see, this is what happens when something is a white issue. It quickly becomes a societal issue. When something is a black issue, on the other hand, society will ignore it unless it somehow starts to affect white people.

I 1000% agree with you on this one bro, I can't even lie lol.

This is 100% true. Not sure why this is. Maybe you can add insight on that. But yeah black issues (or other ethnic groups for that matter) are not "America" issues. Or even as you say, are not even America's issue to resolve or be overly concerned with.

But when there are white problems per se, oh stop the dam* presses. America needs to be concerned and do something about it. Such as the Heroin response and reactions that you linked. Would love to know why this is. Not sure if I'd immediately point to racism.

Excellent point primetime

 

[Samori Toure]

i remember i had a discussion about conversation control in terms of race relations. truth is, if you put someone in a position of doubt or skepticism from the outset of the "argument" and they chose to enter into the conversation in an attempt to disprove the idea, they're already fighting an up hill battle.

Another thing that is done, but no one ever seems to mention this; is that when using statistics a true racist will always use a number of a people in a group that does something and then divide that number by the entire group of the people in the group. The flaw in that method is that they already know that the smaller numbered group (Black people) are going to have higher incidence of a number, because there are less of them in comparison than a group of White people. So black people being 14% of the population of course are going to have a higher proportional incidence of anything in comparison with a group (White people) who are at 63% of the population. That is not even an apples to apples comparison.

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Another thing that is done, but no one ever seems to mention this; is that when using statistics a true racist will always use a number of a people in a group that does something and then divide that number by the entire group of the people in the group. The flaw in that method is that they already know that the smaller numbered group (Black people) are going to have higher incidence of a number, because there are less of them in comparison than a group of White people. So black people being 14% of the population of course are going to have a higher proportional incidence of anything in comparison with a group (White people) who are at 63% of the population. That is not even an apples to apples comparison.

yes, it's common when describing crimes and percentages based on race. when you compare it from a statistic/percentage point the percentage of white crimes is lower but in reality the ACTUAL number of whites committing crimes is higher because there are more whites that are in our population. 15% of 10,000 is higher than 20% of 6,000 but all you see in figures is the higher percentage and it's a misrepresentation.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

And now the goalpost is being moved, fam. The Whole premise of this thread seems to be that Black on Black crime isn't really all that bad and it's being overblown by the media or Black on Black crime is equal to White on White crime.

Now stats are being posted that completely destroy those arguments and the goalpost is being moved to "Yes, Black on Black crime is high but there are certain circumstances that create that condition".

So which is it? Is Black on Black crime just being overblown by the media?
Or is it a terrible problem in our community that needs to be addressed?

PS - I've said this time and time again. I don't think being poor should ever be a reason/excuse for Black men to kill one another.

In other words you believe that black people are predisposed to violence.

 

[LuckyLibra619]

In other words you believe that black people are predisposed to violence.

I never said that. Why is that any of us who look at this topic from a different point of view get demonized?

 

[Samori Toure]

I guess people will conveniently ignore this post.

No people did not conveniently ignore the post, because I am the one that actually provide the fukking FBI stats, which the poster quoted. The stats clearly showed that White people clearly committed more murders, which ran opposite of the what the first racist was claiming about Black people committing more murders. Before I provided the stats there were just a bunch of racists on here giving their usual uninformed opinions as facts.

 

[LuckyLibra619]

No people did not conveniently ignore the post, because I am the one that actually provide the fukking FBI stats, which the poster quoted. The stats clearly showed that White clearly committed more murders, which ran opposite of the what the first racist was claiming about Black people committing more murders.. Before I provide the stats there were just a bunch of racists on here giving their usual uninformed opinions as facts.

They committed more murders because there are much more White people in the country. How hard is that to understand?