Can anybody please explain why you never hear people say" what abt White on white crime"

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Hey Akan,

Thanks for providing some data instead of the typical super cac this crap.

Ok but I'm missing where you refuted by point. I said add up all of those cities murders and compare to white cities in America. I didn't say all whites in America versus all blacks. Of course that would be an unfair comparison b/c of the population gap.

So I said specifically to compare the WHITE cities murder rates. I would determine a white city to have 90%+ population of whites. I wouldn't say New York would be a white city.

I know its not a politically correct way of phrasing a question. But I was trying to come across the fact that black cities (or cities with a high population of blacks) have high murder rates. Yet White cities do not.

Again even if you just take the 4 cities I mentioned then add all of the white cities combined. The 4 cities I mentioned (Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, New Orleans) would far exceed the numbers in the combined white cities.

Is that not alarming to you?

Or do you not believe that numbers just as this feeds the narrative about a black on black problem?

I am asking you where did you get your numbers from?

And I am telling you that not all of the murders committed in Chicago are by Black people. Hispanics kill each other a lot in Chicago too. Whites kill each other in this town too. The headlines of course always go back to Black on Black crime here because of the gang fights for territory; but that is due to the heroin being pumped into the Black neighborhoods by Mexican gangs and it being purchased by suburban White people.


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Heroin Highway — Naperville’s crusade against an addictive and deadly drug

Btw, people throw Chicago out there; but do people even know the underlying reason for the murders in Chicago? Chicago is the middle of the Country and it used to be the transportation hub for the nation. It is a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants. Mexican drug cartels targeted this city a long time ago and that is why Chicago is basically in a similar fix as Mexican border cities as far as crime goes. The drugs probably explains why New Orleans and Memphis has so much crime as well. All three cities (Chicago, Memphis, New Orleans) and for that matter St. Louis are all transportation hubs for the Country. So drugs are shipped into these places for further distribution across the country.

Mexico willing to extradite 'El Chapo,' who faces Chicago indictment, source says

So it is not even the Black street gangs that are the problem here. It is the Mexican drug dealers.
 

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You can't ask those sort of questions and get mad at the answer. Bringing up white on white crime is asking for a loss. The question you need to ask is why is black on black crime a deflection tactic instead of a serious issue? No one cares about black on black crime until we have a high profile, racially motivated police shooting/killing. If white people were concerned about black on black crime they would address the issues that play a contributing factor. That's how you engage them on the black on black crime bullshyt. You don't ask about white on white crime because then you're faced with some sobering statistics.
 

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I am asking you where did you get your numbers from?

And I am telling you that not all of the murders committed in Chicago are by Black people. Hispanics kill each other a lot in Chicago too. Whites kill each other in this town too. The headlines of course always go back to Black on Black crime here because of the gang fights for territory; but that is due to the heroin being pumped into the Black neighborhoods by Mexican gangs and it being purchased by suburban White people.


herion highway - Yahoo Search Results
Chicago 'Heroin Highway' Bust Shows A 'New Face Of Organized Crime'
Heroin Highway — Naperville’s crusade against an addictive and deadly drug

Btw, people throw Chicago out there; but do people even know the underlying reason for the murders in Chicago? Chicago is the middle of the Country and it used to be the transportation hub for the nation. It is a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants. Mexican drug cartels targeted this city a long time ago and that is why Chicago is basically in a similar fix as Mexican border cities as far as crime goes. The drugs probably explains why New Orleans and Memphis has so much crime as well. All three cities (Chicago, Memphis, New Orleans) and for that matter St. Louis are all transportation hubs for the Country. So drugs are shipped into these places for further distribution across the country.

Mexico willing to extradite 'El Chapo,' who faces Chicago indictment, source says

So it is not even the Black street gangs that are the problem here. It is the Mexican drug dealers.


Akan, you seem to follow the typical black where everything is a deflection or a "Reason" for why blacks commit crimes.

I don't care about the drug trade or why it has caused black murders or gangs or whatever you want to call it.

The topic of this discussion was about why black on black crime is describe or criticized more. It is not WHY or the underlying reasoning or excuse for the rampant violent crimes.

But again, you deflect by pretending as if Mexicans are killing each other more so than blacks. Or b/c white people buy heroin, this is why blacks are killing each other.

And I'm not saying these are not factors. But it does not dismiss or excuse the fact that this is damn problem man.

See this analogy, a person puts a gun on a table. And another person picks it up and shoots every person in the room.

The difference between me and you is . You blame the person that put the gun on the table. I BLAME the person who does the shooting. I dont give a damn about the person that put the gun down on the table. The fault lies with the person that made the choice to do the killings

The same things with drugs. These ppl in these inner city communities have a f*cking choice. This is not slavery. They could go to college instead of slinging and killing for herion or crack.

I blame them for the choices they make (to kill and be violent). Not the ppl who put the drugs in the communities. I could give a damn about them.

Thats the difference between me and you. I'm about self accountability and choosing the right path. You're about deflecting and make excuses as to why ray-ray decided to shoot his fellow black man over drugs.
 

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Because white on white crime is normal:aicmon:,and when a tragedy or epidemic happens it's label as false flag or conspiracy.:stopitslime:
 

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Not the ppl who put the drugs in the communities. I could give a damn about them.

Why? Those people made a poor choice as well. And those people most likely had more options than flooding communities with guns and drugs. You can't talk about accountability then excuse a whole group for their detrimental actions. If Ray-Ray made a bad decision to sell drugs and bust guns (he did) then whomever gave him access, along with millions of other potential Ray-Ray's, needs to be held accountable as well. I'm not one for calling someone a cac but you have a very limited world view on these sort of issues that's common among many white people. Selective judgement is shining through in your post.
 

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O.K. I will bite. What am I missing in your statement. Take a look at the FBI crime stats. Am I misreading the stats or does it show that White people committed more murders in America in 2014. So where are you getting your numbers from?
Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

Then I checked the actual murder stats for the cities that you mentioned and here it is:
Chicago had 407 murders in 2014.
Detroit 304 murders in 2014.
Baltimore had 217 murders in 2014.
New Orleans had 150 murders in 2014

That equal 1,078 murders for all of those cities. Now keep in mind that not all of the murders committed in a place like Chicago were committted by Black people. So there were White and Hispanic people that committed murder in Chicago too; so not all of those 1,078 murders were even committed by Black people.

America’s 2014 Murder Capital
2014 Chicago Murders - Timeline
2014 Detroit homicides fewest in 47 years

Btw, Chicago is the 3rd largest city in America with a population of about 3 million people. There were only 400 murders. That is a lot, but in comparison to the total population; it was not really that high and it is significantly lower proportionally than many people even realize. Chicago's only problem is that they don't fudge their crime stats like New York does.

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Why? Those people made a poor choice as well. And those people most likely had more options than flooding communities with guns and drugs. You can't talk about accountability then excuse a whole group for their detrimental actions. If Ray-Ray made a bad decision to sell drugs and bust guns (he did) then whomever gave him access, along with millions of other potential Ray-Ray's, needs to be held accountable as well. I'm not one for calling someone a cac but you have a very limited world view on these sort of issues that's common among many white people. Selective judgement is shining through in your post.

You make an excellent excellent argument Always-right.

I am not saying the people who make the choices to distribute drugs didn't make poor choices. If the topic is about drug trafficking, then yes I blame them. But thats not the topic at hand here. The topic was black on black violence.

Lastly again you got me here on your point about having selective judgement. I'm sorry I hold my choices and what we can control far more than other people choices and actions.

So again if we're having a discussion about the drug problem. Of course the ppl that put the drugs there are at the top of the list.

But that was not the discussion we were having.
 

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You make an excellent excellent argument Always-right.

I am not saying the people who make the choices to distribute drugs didn't make poor choices. If the topic is about drug trafficking, then yes I blame them. But thats not the topic at hand here. The topic was black on black violence.

Lastly again you got me here on your point about having selective judgement. I'm sorry I hold my choices and what we can control far more than other people choices and actions.

So again if we're having a discussion about the drug problem. Of course the ppl that put the drugs there are at the top of the list.

But that was not the discussion we were having.

We're talking about "black on black crime" "white on white crime" and "Hispanic on Hispanic crime"
 

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You make an excellent excellent argument Always-right.

I am not saying the people who make the choices to distribute drugs didn't make poor choices. If the topic is about drug trafficking, then yes I blame them. But thats not the topic at hand here. The topic was black on black violence.

Lastly again you got me here on your point about having selective judgement. I'm sorry I hold my choices and what we can control far more than other people choices and actions.

So again if we're having a discussion about the drug problem. Of course the ppl that put the drugs there are at the top of the list.

But that was not the discussion we were having.

You can't divorce the drugs and guns from the crime.
 

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The problem is not the "black on black" because yes most crimes are usually committed against someone of the same race. The problem is the RATE of black on black crime. For every 1000 white people, 2.6 will be murdered. For every 1000 black people, 18.3 will be murdered. So you're talking almost 9 times the rate.

Correction: it is 2.6 Whites and 18.3 Blacks per 100,000, not 1,000.
 
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