Can everyone stop trying to rewrite history for Ja Rule

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I was headed to high school when he was at his peak. 2001-2002 to be exact.
Exactly my point....:dead:.....you were just a kid...Im sure Ja Rule's music holds some sentimental/nostalgia vibes for you but for some one like myself who was in his early 20's and already hitting the club I view Ja as a rappper who rode Pac's wave and then did the r&b hip hop duo thing and rode it till 50 ended him...you claim he is an mc which is laughable but like I said earlier I'll let you tell it....:mjlol:....
 

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Exactly my point....:dead:.....you were just a kid...Im sure Ja Rule's music holds some sentimental/nostalgia vibes for you but for some one like myself who was in his early 20's and already hitting the club I view Ja as a rappper who rode Pac's wave and then did the r&b hip hop duo thing and rode it till 50 ended him...you claim he is an mc which is laughable but like I said earlier I'll let you tell it....:mjlol:....


His music does not hold any sentimental value to me cause he isn’t the first artists I grew up listening to. Those artists were Pac, Jay, Big Pun & DMX. But to say Ja wasn’t a star is a full blown lie. Look at the reactions from this thread, it’s all coming from stans of Curtis. They mad he was in the mainstream before him and now they trying to erase his existence.
 

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Ja’s career was closer to Nelly than Chingy.


nah. jarule was closer to peak chingy, who sold just a tad bit less than jarule.

nelly sold way more than both of them COMBINED.

I saw somebody in here try to say that jarule was bigger than nelly.


You do know Ja had a couple triple platinum albums right? Him and Ashanti were extremely popular from 99-02. 50 cent really blurried people’s minds about JA


ashanti wasn't even out yet, thru most of the time period that youre listing. she really came out during the back-end of jarule's run.

jarule's run was late 00 thru late 02.
ashanti's run was '02-05.
 

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glad yall calling murder inc out...most of their run was a complete sham thanks to def jam and radio payola...it was the beginning of the end for radio when people started growing tired of the same ja rule song played 24 hrs a day every 5 minutes


The same can be said about In Da Club being played 24 hours all over radio.
 

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His music does not hold any sentimental value to me cause he isn’t the first artists I grew up listening to. Those artists were Pac, Jay, Big Pun & DMX. But to say Ja wasn’t a star is a full blown lie. Look at the reactions from this thread, it’s all coming from stans of Curtis. They mad he was in the mainstream before him and now they trying to erase his existence.


the bolded is beyond false. people have been ducking my posts all thru this thread, and I don't even like 50 cent. I don't even now why his name keeps coming up in this thread.
and I agree that jarule was better than 50 cent in terms of an MC, but that's not saying much.

also, I don't think anybody is denying the fact that jarule was a superstar in the early '00s. the division here seems to be that the younger guys are lacking perspective concerning jarule's run. his base was more in line with the nellys & chingys as opposed to dudes like DMX & jigga. and theres nothing wrong with that, but some people are lacking perspective. that's what this thread is about.


:mjlol: stans gonna stan. how old are u by the way? cause you must of just listened to rap when 50 blew up. All those guys you mentioned destroyed 50 even worse than what he did to Ja. And you guys telling me I don’t know my history. I been listening to hip hop since the 90’s. 50 Cent was not the first artist I listened to and I say that with pride.


he listed nas.

nas dropped a weak response, and then quietly backed away from the beef.

but yea, 50 lost most of his battles. jarule was prolly his only victory.


glad yall calling murder inc out...most of their run was a complete sham thanks to def jam and radio payola...it was the beginning of the end for radio when people started growing tired of the same ja rule song played 24 hrs a day every 5 minutes


yea, but radio dying isn't murder inc's fault.

radio became too much of a monopoly circa '01, and it got to the point where in order to get on the radio, most artists had to have a horrible neptunes beat(before they ramped up & improved their beats) or a knockoff jarule song, or a combination of both.

with that said, jarule ended up being the most influential artist in terms of radio rap, which gets over-looked.

but yea, irv gotti ran murder inc like an analytics nerd and it caught up with him. they had a low-budget '97 bad boy run, but they didn't have the juice & talent of bad boy to avoid being brushed off as a novelty.
 

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Some really good posts in this thread:ehh:

And I’ll be honest because I was one of those people who purchased VVV and while it wasn’t a lot of nikkas in the streets playing it nikkas was definitely fukking with that album


Also, when Ja first came out his bars were respected by his older peers, nobody was giving Chingy, Nelly, or 50 for that matter respect off of their rap skills, they made hits so people fukked with them...but so did Ja:yeshrug:
This because I was one of the ones that was disgusted that Ja switched up because VVV was dope to me
 

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high-key, LIL MO is the one that blew murder inc up and she wasn't even signed there.

then they wouldn't even pay her for her services.

I hate interscope but I was glad to see murder inc's rap division get exterminated.
 

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Y’all are proving the OP point

Ha basically was a pop rapper that people on knew for hit records with women singing on the hook

All the OP is saying is no one bumped Ja Rules albums, no one turned up to Ja Rules Music,

He was basically just a radio darling
This makes no sense. Ja has muti platinum albums before Ashanti and if people are buying the whole album obviously they are listening to more than just a few songs. Maybe cause im from NY but VVV and Rule 3:16 stayed in rotation. Some of those nikkas were fresh out of elementary school when he dropped so y’all don’t remember that shyt vividly
 

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nah. jarule was closer to peak chingy, who sold just a tad bit less than jarule.

nelly sold way more than both of them COMBINED.

I saw somebody in here try to say that jarule was bigger than nelly.





ashanti wasn't even out yet, thru most of the time period that youre listing. she really came out during the back-end of jarule's run.

jarule's run was late 00 thru late 02.
ashanti's run was '02-05.
I wasn’t really saying Ashanti was out in 99-00. I was pretty much talking about those 2 run in general.
 

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the bolded is beyond false. people have been ducking my posts all thru this thread, and I don't even like 50 cent. I don't even now why his name keeps coming up in this thread.
and I agree that jarule was better than 50 cent in terms of an MC, but that's not saying much.

also, I don't think anybody is denying the fact that jarule was a superstar in the early '00s. the division here seems to be that the younger guys are lacking perspective concerning jarule's run. his base was more in line with the nellys & chingys as opposed to dudes like DMX & jigga. and theres nothing wrong with that, but some people are lacking perspective. that's what this thread is about.





he listed nas.

nas dropped a weak response, and then quietly backed away from the beef.

but yea, 50 lost most of his battles. jarule was prolly his only victory.





yea, but radio dying isn't murder inc's fault.

radio became too much of a monopoly circa '01, and it got to the point where in order to get on the radio, most artists had to have a horrible neptunes beat(before they ramped up & improved their beats) or a knockoff jarule song, or a combination of both.

with that said, jarule ended up being the most influential artist in terms of radio rap, which gets over-looked.

but yea, irv gotti ran murder inc like an analytics nerd and it caught up with him. they had a low-budget '97 bad boy run, but they didn't have the juice & talent of bad boy to avoid being brushed off as a novelty.



his name keeps popping up cause his stans are entering this thread denying his existence and star power back in the early 2000's. way before he was a thought. he was still underground while he was selling platinum records. Eminem & Ja were both on the rise, selling albums back in 1999-2000.
 

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his name keeps popping up cause his stans are entering this thread denying his existence and star power back in the early 2000's. way before he was a thought. he was still underground while he was selling platinum records. Eminem & Ja were both on the rise, selling albums back in 1999-2000.


I keep seeing this being said, but who are his stans in particular?? yall gotta name names. cuz apparently I got grouped in as a 50 stan and I despise the guy.

and I don't see people denying jarule's star-power. theyre citing his lack of popularity with the core rap audience. I think most will agree that from jarule was a top 5 most successful rapper of the early 2000s - even cracking the top 3 towards the end.

jarule only went gold in '99.


You sure? Cause after like 04 Ashanti was played. From that point it was Beyonce and Alicia running the R&B game


the '04 album ran thru 05.

thats why i said her run was 02-05. worlds away from being generalized as part of the 99-02 era.
 
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