Can everyone stop trying to rewrite history for Ja Rule

[Nintendough]

Ja was big. He still sells out small and medium venues.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

ja was a hitmaker
his albums were meh

50 jacked his styled, watered it down and then 50 became meh too

 

[karim]

Ur 100 percent right but I’m just saying there was a MOMENT. Around the VVV album and Holla Holla where Ja was respected as a street dude. After always on time he turned into drake. Put all I’m saying is his career is legendary he’s not chingy level

Personally, I liked VVV, but at that time, he was mostly looked at as a poor mans dmx, which is why he switched lanes and did the pop shyt. Ja was never respected as an artist

 

[chowism]

I was in highschool from 01-05. Ja Rule was on fire and was one of the top artists but I can't lie I think females propelled him to the top. We all liked his singles and radio joints but I don't think any nikka in my school was really bumping a Ja Rule album. I remember all the dudes bumping Diplomatic Immunity, Blueprint, Stillmatic, The Carter, Eminem's albums, etc... Only time I seen nikkas copping Rule was the album after 50 put his foot on his neck where he had that Clap Back joint on it. Ja Rule was a huge hit though and you can't compare him to Chingy.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I was in highschool from 01-05. Ja Rule was on fire and was one of the top artists but I can't lie I think females propelled him to the top. We all liked his singles and radio joints but I don't think any nikka in my school was really bumping a Ja Rule album. I remember all the dudes bumping Diplomatic Immunity, Blueprint, Stillmatic, The Carter, Eminem's albums, etc... Only time I seen nikkas copping Rule was the album after 50 put his foot on his neck where he had that Clap Back joint on it. Ja Rule was a huge hit though and you can't compare him to Chingy.

What you’re describing makes him very comparable to Chingy

 

[chowism]

What you’re describing makes him very comparable to Chingy

No, Ja had hella hits and was actually one of the top artists for a couple years. I couldn't watch videos or listen to the radio for more than 40 mins without his joints being played. shyt Murder Inc was running shyt for a few years while I was in highschool. You have to be a young bruh to not remember that shyt.

 

[CrimsonTider]

No, Ja had hella hits and was actually one of the top artists for a couple years. I couldn't watch videos or listen to the radio for more than 40 mins without his joints being played. shyt Murder Inc was running shyt for a few years while I was in highschool. You have to be a young bruh to not remember that shyt.

He had more hits than Chingy but he still was a singles artist with no real hiphop fan base

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

He had more hits than Chingy but he still was a singles artist with no real hiphop fan base

Stop it, Ja Rule's just as relevant as J-Kwon.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Stop it, Ja Rule's just as relevant as J-Kwon.

Who said that?

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

I'm sorry but this has been bothering me for days now and I initially didn't want to touch it, but am I the only one who sees zero significance in how hip hop heads of the early 2000s viewed Ja? Sure, if we are talking about the historical record, fine, the facts are the facts and they didn't fukk with him, but citing them as something that matters when determining anything about Ja's music quality is complete nonsense.

The nikkas that hated Ja are the same nikkas that thought It Was Written was sellout trash because he dared to be different. That's how they reasoned back then, music type was more important than music quality. Mase also got way more criticism than his music ever warranted, and LL cool J had to force out dishonest, generic street records between his pop/female hits just to save face with that audience. Its like if you stepped out of the grimy nikka archetype, just slightly, you were risking your entire career because the culture was that intolerant. Personally, fukk 'em, hip Hop heads from that era were some of the most close minded, anti-free thinking people that I ever came across. They were the livin npc meme.

They were also the reason why all the young Ny dudes that come up in the early 2000s where all 1-dimensional punchline rappers who couldn't make a song to save their life, dudes raised with the ideology that prevented them from stepping outside the box. Why you think the South over took us? Whole generation brainwashed into being anti-creative. Them real nikkas did more than kill Ja, they killed NY.

Also, we need to cut the bullshyt that just because hip hop heads didn't fukk with Ja, it some how means the black culture at large also didn't fukk with him, and in reality it was just white suburban kids. That's revisionist history, I didn't see dudes rocking half colored Du-rags, half afro/braids, and denim outfits hard until Ja came around. He was definitely influencing the culture on a level that was greater than trivial. Again, what fukked him over was not music quality, it was the fact that he constantly kept breaking taboos of the hip-hop head culture by choosing not to replicate the stereotypical NY sound.

Someone tag this breh and tell him to unignore me

Niccaz are straight sensitive because I won't agree with their minority view point that nobody sees.

Please, tag him for me.

Breh spams threads with Ja Rule nonsense but can't swallow facts or prove his point so he blocked me.

Twat!

 

[chowism]

He had more hits than Chingy but he still was a singles artist with no real hiphop fan base

How does he not have a real fan base when he's still doing shows?

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

@AJaRuleStan

 

[CrimsonTider]

How does he not have a real fan base when he's still doing shows?

He didn’t have a hiphop fan base where dudes were bumping his music, copping his albums and stanning him

He had a lot of pop hits



No one is denying his success the OP is saying no one in rap took him seriously

 

[Wacky D]

One could argue that Ja's fanbase was "L7's and vics" more so than Em's was and that wasn't what dude was saying at all.

Your argument about Jay going at Nas makes no sense. You don't get a notch under your belt for dissing an MC that's irrelevant. Jay went at Nas because Nas was held in high regard. Even though, he'd slipped some notches, Nas was still respected. Every rapper Jay targeted on "Takeover" were MC's that were in the way. Nas was never an MC who had consecutive hit records. He was always someone who was respected for their pen first and foremost, which is my point. Ja Rule never was held in that regard. Nas in 2000 and 2001 still had more respect as an MC than Ja Rule ever did.

Ja was not a bigger act than Ludacris. They were at least neck and neck.

im not gonna bother with the 1st comment.

youre saying that nas & prodigy were in jay's way??? the rappers jay dissed on takeover were dudes that were perceived to be on their last legs or done.
the rappers that were in jay's way at the time were jadakiss & DMX. and clearly jay wanted no parts of them. that's how the whole State prop/Dblock thing started in the 1st place.

ja & luda were neck-n-neck in terms of sales but jarule was a polarizing figure and his singles had way more impact/influence than anything Ludacris did.

When Ashanti came out, you think being tied to a triple platinum rapper who was one of the biggest in the world, didn’t help her out? Come on now

And fat joe “what’s love” came out after Ja and Ashanti went #1 On billboard with always on time so what exactly are you saying Breh? Her album was already released by then

Concerte rose spawned only one minor hit and wasn’t that successful compared to her previous joints.

Where’s the logic to any of this

im saying if fat joe didn't keep ashanti's vocals on his record, irv would've never got the idea to put her album out PERIOD. its been spoken on.

I already said being tied to an established rapper & label is a good look. what more do you want?? youre trying to make it seem like ashanti str8 piggy-backed off of jarule. she had her own fans and dropped music that quite frankly had more meaning to people than jarule's stuff.

concrete rose went platinum. we're not comparing it to her previous albums. we're talking about whether or not it made noise. stop trying to move the goal-post.​

 

[DaHNIC82]

Ja was THAT dude from 2000-mid 2003. His supply and demand was crazy. That J lo record and Between me and you was what broke him. Not a big fan but he had it LOCKED