Nintendough
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Illmatic is so damn boring Sting couldve been a ghost writer on it.
Can one argue that "It Was Written" was better than "illmatic"
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James Dean
All Star
yo yall are my nikkas.
classic spin.
classic spin.
Breh Obama
First Breh President. Coli Prophet.
God Damn man the Coli is the MF place to be..........yall nikkas man 
PlainSight
Anon
Jay Z had a terrible title reign after that - the blueprint 2 era. There were some classic matches though - the fatal 4 way with Killer Mike, Twista and Big Boi was decent, lots of high spots in there. The Meet The Parents promo was pretty good too.Jay-Z's reigns of terror
I remember in 2001 when Eminem was about to get a championship run and Jay was hesitant to put him over. Vince calling for the bell while Em had Jay trapped in the H.O.V.A Hold is still one of the greatest moments I've ever seen in this business.
The suspect promos leading up to it
Jay-Z saying a white guy could never be champion
Pharrell was a GOAT manager around this time though.
Ones got to look at the whole history of the business and different talent to understand why things are the way they are. Gotta look back at those Billboard Wars between universal music and emi. Now you young guys that weren't around won't remember when the Beatles invaded emi. They were boosting attendance, selling merch, ratings thru the roof. Nobody could stop them. Universal music tried to counter with more attitude and edgier superstars like kiss and black sabath. This in turn helped them in the war but the Beatles weren't gonna go away that easily.
The problem was that emi wasn't running their company correctly. So everyone knows the story about how universal bought them out and one of the universal executives made a surprise appearance at an emi artist concert. That's what I think changed the industry completely. That buyout. The main competition was gone so universal music lost its competitive edge. Started getting lazy with the way the converts were being booked, the talent was uninspired to write better lyrics, they gave opportunities to artists that wouldn't have gotten them in the old days.
The problem was that other companies like Sony Impact and New Warner Music weren't doing anything to combat the Universal Music Entertainment juggernaut. They were focused on growing their own fan base but not putting out much decent product. Around this time, a lot of independent promotions started coming out. Seemed like anyone that had dreams of working in the industry was getting put on and they expected a push out the gate. This started the decline of the industry. Artists that couldn't do promos, gimmick characters with little abilities to call a match or even sell. Thankfully today things have improved a bit and new labels have come from the underground with different artists and genres to give us some variety. Plus universal has been putting on better cards lately and bringing in newer talent. What I'm waiting for is to see if Jay-Z gets that sixteenth title reign and makes history yet again.
We gotta study the history and see what went right and wrong to better understand why the booking is the way it is now.
The problem was that emi wasn't running their company correctly. So everyone knows the story about how universal bought them out and one of the universal executives made a surprise appearance at an emi artist concert. That's what I think changed the industry completely. That buyout. The main competition was gone so universal music lost its competitive edge. Started getting lazy with the way the converts were being booked, the talent was uninspired to write better lyrics, they gave opportunities to artists that wouldn't have gotten them in the old days.
The problem was that other companies like Sony Impact and New Warner Music weren't doing anything to combat the Universal Music Entertainment juggernaut. They were focused on growing their own fan base but not putting out much decent product. Around this time, a lot of independent promotions started coming out. Seemed like anyone that had dreams of working in the industry was getting put on and they expected a push out the gate. This started the decline of the industry. Artists that couldn't do promos, gimmick characters with little abilities to call a match or even sell. Thankfully today things have improved a bit and new labels have come from the underground with different artists and genres to give us some variety. Plus universal has been putting on better cards lately and bringing in newer talent. What I'm waiting for is to see if Jay-Z gets that sixteenth title reign and makes history yet again.
We gotta study the history and see what went right and wrong to better understand why the booking is the way it is now.
JerseyBoy23
Veteran
Subbing this...
Do you guys think we'll ever have another Roc Dynasty Era? The Young Money Era is aight but the rhyme schemes have been too PG lately.
Do you guys think we'll ever have another Roc Dynasty Era? The Young Money Era is aight but the rhyme schemes have been too PG lately.
PlayerNinety_Nine
Produced, Arranged, Composed and Performed by....
Came in the game with his own Advocating Jew in MC Serch
His early tag team work with AZ
The heat with Cormega was a shoot
The storyline where NORE threw a flowerpot at God's Son
"Y'all don't know about my Biggie wars..." = Nas was fighting BIG on the house show circuit in the 90's
The Last Real Wrestler Alive - That's official.:qbsalute:
His early tag team work with AZ
The heat with Cormega was a shoot
The storyline where NORE threw a flowerpot at God's Son
"Y'all don't know about my Biggie wars..." = Nas was fighting BIG on the house show circuit in the 90's
The Last Real Wrestler Alive - That's official.:qbsalute:
DosCadenaz
Superstar
50 Cent dropping the Wanksta pipebomb on Ja Cena was a great moment. Vintage 50 Cent.
Matter fact his promos all on his debut run were lit.
Your little dirty ass kids I'll fukkin erase em > doofus son in law or Vince mcmahon dead
Matter fact his promos all on his debut run were lit.
Your little dirty ass kids I'll fukkin erase em > doofus son in law or Vince mcmahon dead
PlainSight
Anon
Dude had insane athleticism on the mic, surprised he never got over.Canibus never recovered after he was used as an enhancement talent to revitalize LL
Springboarded his way into a Sweet LL Music
Eddie Brock
All Star
Hands down best thread in the TSC. shyt like this is why I love The Coli and all my brehs
Threads like this are why no other board is fukking with TSC 
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
You could tell Jigga's workrate was declining after Eminem won the championship. Then Nas took him down at the Tokyo Dome and you have a man who the fans just wanted to go away.
Then he returns in 2003 as a face and just starts putting work in. His Black Album era had some of his most underrated matches. His Last Man Standing match against Em at Moment of Clarity is at least top ten for his career.
richaveli83
Veteran
Who had the best gimmick change 2Pac or Nas?
2Pac: made his debut as a dancer with Digital Underground during their ring entrances and decided to get in the ring with the Black Panther gimmick but the neckbeards weren't feeling it. Changed to the Thug Life gimmick and started getting over and had a nice little mid card run as a baby face. Was turned on by Bad Boy and got with Suge Bischoff and became a heel and got a nice run as champion until he overdosed. His feud with Biggie ushered in the East Coast vs West Coast era.
Nas: started out as a humble mc with a good workrate but couldn't get past the mid card. Changed to the Esco gimmick and got over with a few championship runs but his work rate dropped and he got lazy. Jay-Z lit a fire in him and he came back strong with his Stillmatic gimmick and has been eating good.
2Pac: made his debut as a dancer with Digital Underground during their ring entrances and decided to get in the ring with the Black Panther gimmick but the neckbeards weren't feeling it. Changed to the Thug Life gimmick and started getting over and had a nice little mid card run as a baby face. Was turned on by Bad Boy and got with Suge Bischoff and became a heel and got a nice run as champion until he overdosed. His feud with Biggie ushered in the East Coast vs West Coast era.
Nas: started out as a humble mc with a good workrate but couldn't get past the mid card. Changed to the Esco gimmick and got over with a few championship runs but his work rate dropped and he got lazy. Jay-Z lit a fire in him and he came back strong with his Stillmatic gimmick and has been eating good.
So UnThotful
Superstar
We need that Broken Nas gimmick