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Beyonce is a pseudo intellectual from the top of her head, down to her feet. You do realize that every aspect of Beyonce is completely manufactured, and monitored under the tight grip of her mother, and other Knowles management, correct? She doesn't write her own music, the only things she does are sing and perform. All of her interviews are scripted; as well as pre-screened. As for her "intellect" lastly, lets that that whole bullshyt of that superbowl BLM shyt she pulled, as well as the shyt in her videos. She doesn't know, or give a shyt about real black issues, just the ones her handlers tell her to speak on. I find it funny that during her superbowl performance, nobody called out the fact that she was up there in a blond weave, projecting "black pride", while natural dark haired sistas danced around her. Beyonce doesn't have any real opinion, and all you have to do is just watch her interviews. Plus anyone who would blindly get behind Hillary Clinton, or support bullshyt gun control campaigns already show me where their intellect lies.
You've very much describsd someone no one would attach any itertation of intellectual to...
 

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the average black male doesn't group up in an impoverished environment.
That is fake deep. Do the research, stop spouting these racist talking points about blacks. All of and the majority of use don't grow up poor with no parental guidance. Most of us aren't criminals or so poor we have to turn to criminality.
You're making assumptions and projecting

The majority of black people live below the poverty line period, so please stop embarrassing yourself and actually read the lyrics for comprehension

Regardless of what any black male chooses to do with their life, the perspective that Ross speaks from is a valid one that has real-life implications for many black males
 
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Nope, that's you taking the opinion from some people and acting that's how every Kendrick fan felt about the record.

If it spoke to someone's consciousness that's cool. There's always a song like that for everybody and it isn't gonna be the same song from everybody

That's just it. That song was being hailed up by those within the mainstream as deep, and thought provoking when he's not. Just like with Kendricks newest album. People are praising him for being ultra deep when half the time he's not.
 

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Straight out the fukkin' dungeons of rap
Fake deep is:
1. When people purposely try to be deep. Like when it feels forced. A try hard. Or they are saying some basic stuff trying to sound deep.
2. When people try to say things to sound "deep", but don't really know what they're talking about.
3. When someone says some "deep" stuff but behaves in a way that is considered the opposite of deep.

Jermaine has beeen falling into the first category to me for a little while now. Kendrick is usually in category #3 people put cole there too sometimes, that's usually when they're talking about them being misogynist. I don't listen to the rest of them so I wouldn't know, but they probably fall into one of the 3 categories, just like most pple who post "deep" stuff on social media.
humans are multi-faceted tho

You;re assuming they are talking about serious content in an attempt to lecture and not just share what they learned and observed growing up.
 

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Beyonce is a pseudo intellectual from the top of her head, down to her feet. You do realize that every aspect of Beyonce is completely manufactured, and monitored under the tight grip of her mother, and other Knowles management, correct? She doesn't write her own music, the only things she does are sing and perform. All of her interviews are scripted; as well as pre-screened. As for her "intellect" lastly, lets that that whole bullshyt of that superbowl BLM shyt she pulled, as well as the shyt in her videos. She doesn't know, or give a shyt about real black issues, just the ones her handlers tell her to speak on. I find it funny that during her superbowl performance, nobody called out the fact that she was up there in a blond weave, projecting "black pride", while natural dark haired sistas danced around her. Beyonce doesn't have any real opinion, and all you have to do is just watch her interviews. Plus anyone who would blindly get behind Hillary Clinton, or support bullshyt gun control campaigns already show me where their intellect lies.
That's not what a pseudo intellectual is. You pretty much just said Beyonce is a manufactured musician like most other musicians.

That's why I asked why Beyonce is a pseudo intellectual. That means you don't know what the word means. Every fake person that puts up a persona isn't a pseudo intellectual.

If you want a good example of a pseudo intellectual, look at Stefan Molyneux.
 

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Horrible examples

Both utilized consultants
And?

The majority of black people live below the poverty line period,
Can you provide a statistic for this?

See this is an example of pseudo-intellectual circular logic smh

If that verse made sense to you from start to finish then please explain the bold thanks

That should be easy for you since the whole thing is coherent all the way through correct?

Once you explain that gibberish verse I'll post more of his gibberish verses
You literally linked from rap genius. You have a chance to read an explanation for the lyrics there already.
 

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Can't y'all, see that he's fake, the rap version of TD jakes
Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes
And this is with whom you want to place your faith?
I put dollars on mine, ask Columbine
When the Twin Towers dropped, I was the first in line
Donating proceeds off every ticket sold
When I was out on the road, that's how you judge Hov, no?
Ain't I supposed to be absorbed myself?
Every time there's a tragedy, I'm the first one to help
They call me this misogynist, but they don't call me the dude
To take his dollars to give gifts at the projects
These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
And y'all buy the shyt, caught up in the hype
Cause the nikka wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshyt that he write
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?
Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?

If that doesn't explain fake deep then idk what to tell u


Funny how jay became fake deep with hillary clinton and barak obama for profit. Both Lip service clowns that have cause the highest white-black wealth gap ever! Black Unemployment 1964 levels....and black home ownership fell to 1990 levels.
 
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That's not what a pseudo intellectual is. You pretty much just said Beyonce is fake
pseudointellectual (plural pseudointellectuals) A person who claims proficiency in scholarly or artistic activities while lacking in-depth knowledge or critical understanding. A person who pretends to be of greater intelligence than he or she in fact is. Taken directly from google.

This is basically what Kendrick, Beyonce, and Monae are. They are hailed by the black mainstream, and other pseudo intellectuals as being deep, thought provoking, empowering, and intelligent, when in reality they are FAR from it. If you seriously asked Beyonce about some of the more serious issues of the community; let alone asked her what her solution would be, she would never give you an answer.

"You pretty much just said Beyonce is fake"- Well yes, that is the point. Pseudo intellectuals of course lack the ability to see another pseudo intellectual for what they actually are.
 

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This is basically what Kendrick, Beyonce, and Monae are. They are hailed by the black mainstream, and other pseudo intellectuals as being deep, thought provoking, empowering, and intelligent, when in reality they are FAR from it. If you seriously asked Beyonce about some of the more serious issues of the community; let alone asked her what her solution would be, she would never give you an answer.
Again, wrong. You've failed to prove that Beyonce, Kendrick or Janelle claim proficiency in any scholarly activities.

You're going off what people in the mainstream praise them as without any input from the musicians themselves.

If you seriously asked Beyonce about some of the more serious issues of the community; let alone asked her what her solution would be, she would never give you an answer.
This is an example of ignorance, not being a pseudo intellectual.

"You pretty much just said Beyonce is fake"- Well yes, that is the point. Pseudo intellectuals of course lack the ability to see another pseudo intellectual for what they actually are.
You're throwing around a word that you don't know of very well. No one with a brain would ever claim that Beyonce is a pseudo intellectual because she sang songs about black people.
 
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Same thing as labeling a gangster rapper a puccy/fraud/cb4


Someone who tries to market themselves or project an image of high intelligence and sincerity in regards to social issues, esp black social issues....but clearly they are either a mouthpiece for someoneelse's ideologies, only regurgitate what they've read without adding fine tuned personal commentary on it and or their views are very basic/surface level on these topics and if you actually challenge their viewpoints and try to scratch even just a little under the surface, you find nothing there

An example being talib kweli and him staunchly criticising the government and its system...but then proudly proclaiming he never votes, and then saying black people shouldn't vote because it doesn't do anything. Not voting is fine, but that's not a good enough reason not to vote imo and is moronic too.


J Cole is the worst offender of the new age rappers

Joey Badass has shown himself to be a dumbass on a couple of occassions too



So where are the real intellectuals to check the fake deep rappers?

Gangstas have checked and/or extorted perpetrators....and the have lost street credit needed to sell records in the 90s. Who is calling out the fake intellectuals to hold them accountable!?!?
 

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So where are the real intellectuals to check the fake deep rappers?

Gangstas have checked and/or extorted perpetrators....and the have lost street credit needed to sell records in the 90s. Who is calling out the fake intellectuals to hold them accountable!?!?
There are no intellectuals in rap.
 

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You're making assumptions and projecting

The majority of black people live below the poverty line period, so please stop embarrassing yourself and actually read the lyrics for comprehension

Regardless of what any black male chooses to do with their life, the perspective that Ross speaks from is a valid one that has real-life implications for many black males
No the majority of black americans don't live below the poverty line and neither does the majority of black american households.
Like I said this is fake deep thought, and mainly the result of a black inferiority complex pushed by white supremacists.
I didn't say Ross's perspective wasn't valid, it might be very valid for poor blacks, but that isn't the majority of us. So again do some actual research, know what you are talking about, have facts to back up what you are talking about.
 

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Poverty | State of Working America

This also doesn't account for unemployment which is also highest within the black community

And?


Can you provide a statistic for this?


You literally linked from rap genius. You have a chance to read an explanation for the lyrics there already.

Another copout smh

Just admit that you cannot explain those nonsensical lyrics. This is getting ridiculous
 

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I consider fake deep to be somebody you know doesn't give a fukk about social issues and shyt yet they preach it to get likes and shyt. Kinda like the dudes on twitter tweeting shyt like "trEAT your girl right" or "Why cheat on your girl, just leave her" all that simping to be viewed as favorable
 
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