can we all admit that everyone in some way, shape or form has had a "ghostwriter" or ghostproducer"?

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DRAKE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. GET OVER IT ALREADY.

AND HIS ALBUM IS TRASH.

AND I READ OP POST IN THIS nikkaS VOICE

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"but no matter who the mc is, 9 times outta 10, whenever he in the studio and vibin' with his crew or best friends"

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DRAKE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. GET OVER IT ALREADY.

AND HIS ALBUM IS TRASH.

AND I READ OP POST IN THIS nikkaS VOICE

1458349002242



"but no matter who the mc is, 9 times outta 10, whenever he in the studio and vibin' with his crew or best friends"

:deadrose:

i'm not even a drake fan and if you've ever read any of my posts about him, you'd know that

but whatever

funny michael cera pic though lol
 

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i wouldn't be shocked if 1 of tha outlawz or thug life threw him a line or 2 from time to time

look man, i know it sucks to think of your goat as not havin' bein' the creator of every single line/verse ever credited to him, but it is what it is

i'm just sayin' sometimes ideas, lines and slang gets thrown around and when you got yo nikkas and crew withchu in the studio, sometimes they help and add their 2 cents to how a line should be or shouldn't if y'all all in the studio listenin' to the music and they wanna see you win and sound your best

I get the point you're trying to make here, but I think there's a big difference between throwing a small idea around and writting entire verses/songs.
 

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Because in art & life, integrity matters. Art, and creative expression, the documenting of real places, feelings, ideas, people, is not a place where money is the only thing that matters. If it did, we wouldn't have the kind of brilliance from Pac, Nas, others that we have.....We have to celebrate THOSE artists, and not the other ones.
 
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I get the point you're trying to make here, but I think there's a big difference between throwing a small idea around and writting entire verses/songs.

i feel that, i agree

Because in art & life, integrity matters. Art, and creative expression, the documenting of real places, feelings, ideas, people, is not a place where money is the only thing that matters. If it did, we wouldn't have the kind of brilliance from Pac, Nas, others that we have.....We have to celebrate THOSE artists, and not the other ones.

i hear you too. i guess all i was tryin' to say was that at the end of the day, i don't REALLY care like that. i enjoy the music and keep it movin'

i don't know, the nerd in me use to care about shyt like that, but now i just enjoy the music and keep it movin' :manny:
 
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Bullshyt thread, especially when you have no idea about the creative process of any major artist
 

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I've heard Ray Luv I think

But helping your homie out in the studio isn't ghostwriting. If you say "hey this word might sound better this way" that's not ghostwriting


Yes it is,....
I ain't never help ju with a verse.
so all the flodging on any level in any pillar needs to be clear as faking jax.
The whole dre narrative was an MTV ploy to parade dre for the prison industrial complex.
when it is fraud as hell too.
All apart of a false narrative to demean real rap producers with a derogatory name like beatmaker.
Just like backpacker.

Yeah, I said it,....all that producer in the rnb sense is rnb and not hiphop.
Dre was an rnb producer who got to do rap and had dope as parties like house parties in Chicago out of the realm of hiphop with rappers present because the city was not culturally terraformed all the way just yet.
Yet, culturally dre was done and we see who he sided with.
To the point MTV let the charade go on long enough.
You make your own music in this shyt.
Crazy legs ain't got no ghost breaker and in Graf.
why Graf first rebelled against arthouses is because art houses were stealing pieces and saying they made them.
When they had real Graf artist they were stealing from and selling their pieces unbeknownst to said Graf artists till it was exposed.
So all the PC shyt is dead...if you fakin jax you fakin jax and I ain't given no passes, period.


Art Barr

Since we dealing with fake'n jax up and down the board...
I'm the authority in this shyt, now.
I am the only real nikka in this shyt,....for real.

Not honoring trying to be nice to gateway fans and that fake shyt no more.
We going back to how and what it was.
when dre was exposed in NWA, as a cultural scourge that Eminem's cultural sentiment had to repair his draw culturally.
All that put dre name on it to get a draw shyt was wack and ruined the ability for diversity in rap production as well.
Making it corporate and away from what hiphop is about.
Plus made Cali a one sound region when it was totally diverse before that.

Plus it was a blatant component of the prison industrial complex.
as early as NWA with the Republican party to MTV reprocessing dre as well.

shyt is bullshyt rap is lost from this as well.
As their is no diversity in rap as it all sounds like classically trained music from art school and not rap anymore.

Got rap sounding like some stuffy ass opera and chopin ass shyt.
Or just a one sided cheap horror movie score and no diversity in the pop realm.


End the charade!!!!



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