Can we hold back the hate for one thread and talk Harden's supporting cast?

[Regular_P]

They overachieved like crazy last year. That game six comeback against the Clips gassed the front office into thinking the team was better than it really was. Harden carried that team far beyond what it should have.

 

[Full Measures]

This is one hating ass post. So you're telling me last year when the Rockets were ranked 6th in defensive efficiency last season it was all down to Harden? One player alone no matter how poor a defender he's perceived to be can drag a team down from 6th to 25th.


Beverley has been an overrated defender since 2013, Norris Cole was giving him work the other day while Dwight's defense has fallen off a cliff after the back injury. Ariza's the only reliable defender in the team these days. Having the worst PF rotation in the League probably doesn't help either.

Even after your fingertips cool off from all that angry posting you just did the Rockets will still be a bottom tier defensive team because their best plate refuses to commit to that end of the floor and no one will check him on it

Last year the Bucks were a very good defensive team. This year they're not a good defensive team. Greg Monroe is the difference. James Harden is the difference for the Rockets. You've been proven wrong

 

[Walt]

They overachieved like crazy last year. That game six comeback against the Clips gassed the front office into thinking the team was better than it really was. Harden carried that team far beyond what it should have.

He really didn't though. That's what everyone immediatley forgot as soon as the playoffs started. The entire Western Conference was bunched together seeds 2-7 for a lot of the second half of the season due to injuries and shytty personnel decisions (Mavs). Heading into the last handful of games of the season the Rockets were as likely to end up 6th as they were 2nd. They won 56 games - same as the Clippers, one more than the Spurs and the Griz. And that's what they were - another team in the West that was kind of hard to set apart from those other 3, whose playoff success was dependent on catching the right matchups. They've regressed this year because other teams are healthier and better, they aren't totally healthy, Dwight is a year older and stiffer, no moves of significance were made to upgrade the roster, and the players clearly don't like each other all that much.

 

[Regular_P]

He really didn't though. That's what everyone immediatley forgot as soon as the playoffs started. The entire Western Conference was bunched together seeds 2-7 for a lot of the second half of the season due to injuries and shytty personnel decisions (Mavs). Heading into the last handful of games of the season the Rockets were as likely to end up 6th as they were 2nd. They won 56 games - same as the Clippers, one more than the Spurs and the Griz. And that's what they were - another team in the West that was kind of hard to set apart from those other 3, whose playoff success was dependent on catching the right matchups. They've regressed this year because other teams are healthier and better, they aren't totally healthy, Dwight is a year older and stiffer, no moves of significance were made to upgrade the roster, and the players clearly don't like each other all that much.

That team got rocked by injuries last year; Dwight missed half the season. The only guys they could count on to be in the lineup was Harden, Ariza and 37 year old Jason Terry. Houston was counting on Josh Smith and Corey Brewer to be difference makers. Nobody would have predicted 56 wins out of that team going into the season considering everything they went through injury-wise.

I said in my post your boy Morey got gassed up thinking that team was better than it was and he didn't make any significant additions to the roster. Losing to the Clips would have been better for the team than that miraculous comeback.

 

[street heat]

ive been calling ariza trash for years. he doesnt stop anyone, and hes a mediocre shooter

stop overrating that faggit.

harden has to do too much and it looks like hes burning out a bit trying to carry things. this is typical of stars in this situation like VC, T-mac, wade, etc......

 

[NatiboyB]

I really want someone to tell me how the Rockets can become a better team with the dudes they have on the squad or who they could bring in....Because to me Harden may be hard to build around.

 

[DonKnock]

I really want someone to tell me how the Rockets can become a better team with the dudes they have on the squad or who they could bring in....Because to me Harden may be hard to build around.

Step 1. Hire Thibs

Step 2. Find a PF and PG



Step 3.

 

[DonKnock]

D. Howard,
T. Jones
T. Ariza
C. Brewer
J. Smith
K.J. McDaniels
P. Beverly> Odom. FOH. Harden got an all time roster and ain't winning shyt with it. Can't slander my dog to make it easier. No Smush on that roster.

McDaniels doesn't see the court.

We have an interim coach instead of a HOFer

Brewer misses open layups and Smith is bottom 4 all time in 3% and that's his only shot this year.


T Jones get some Kentucky pedigree pass but misses more layups than Brewer

 

[NatiboyB]

Step 1. Hire Thibs

Step 2. Find a PF and PG



Step 3.

But don't they have Terrance and Montjunus are they keep in Dwight next season do they even need a good PG or just a spot up shooter

 

[DonKnock]

But don't they have Terrance and Montjunus are they keep in Dwight next season do they even need a good PG or just a spot up shooter

T Jones can't hit a layup, much less a 3 consistently. D Mo can't stay healthy, I wasn't surprised Detroit sent him back, but we will see.

We need a PG that can facilitate and defend, what Lawson was supposed to do. If he can hit the 3, that is a bonus.

My realistic prediction is that we keep Dwight for slightly under the max and sign Barnes. But Morey is set on going after KD so who knows.

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

I wouldn't mind Barnes but I don't wanna pay the max for him. I really think we should leave that KD chase alone he's not coming here.

Horford/Barnes/Ryan Anderson then try to re-sign Dwight and upgrade the bench.

Oh and hire Thibs

 

[NatiboyB]

I wouldn't mind Barnes but I don't wanna pay the max for him. I really think we should leave that KD chase alone he's not coming here.

Horford/Barnes/Ryan Anderson then try to re-sign Dwight and upgrade the bench.

Oh and hire Thibs

When the Warriors win the championship I think they would match a max offer for barnes wouldn't they

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

When the Warriors win the championship I think they would match a max offer for barnes wouldn't they

Nah I don't think so. I know the cap going up but I don't think they'd want potentially 3 max players on the roster. Plus they're gonna make a run at KD this year and I think Barnes is one of the players they'd have to let go in order to get him.

 

[DonKnock]

When the Warriors win the championship I think they would match a max offer for barnes wouldn't they

They're already way into the luxury tax. even when the cap jumps signing Barnes to a max will put them in jeopardy of not being able to sign bench players once they have to pay Steph the next year

 

[IGSaint12]

fukk Harden's flopping ass