Can you do anything with an associates degree in Computer Science

[TRUEST]

C/S the bolded.

This is why I'm going back for my master's in computer science. I was already two classes away from graduating with a bachelor's in political science (I was originally planning to go to law school) before taking an intro to programming class and realizing that I enjoyed it. After looking at the requirements for entry-level positions, I knew that I didn't stand a chance without at least a four-year CS/equivalent degree. And double majoring at that point meant another 2 - 2.5 years just to get another bachelor's degree.

So at this point, getting an MA in computer science seems to be the best course of action for me. Or so I hope...

listen man. i'm all for education and all. but dont get urself in debt thinking once u get that masters, all u goto do is go on a job interview and job is yours.

with programming, there's one thing i realized which is true whether you like it or not. you need creativity. if you're not creative, u will not do well at a company even if u happen to miraculously get the job.

most of the time, ur manager wont know how to programming (he doesn't really need to....his job is to manage). all he does is give u task to complete.

its up to you to use your creativity to accomplish the task.

one thing they wont teach in school is tell u real world scenarios.

if ur really interested in doing programming for a job, go to bookstores and read up on real programming books. not the crap they force u to buy at ur college. the ones at the bookstores contain information that actually involves REAL WORLD cases. that's what you need.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

assembly is a godawful language man....this is the only language i couldn't wrap my head around...it was a required elective for me too

example

C++:

main () {
int x, y;
x = 10;
y = x;
}

Assembly:

SET r1, 10 ; set r1 to immediate value 10
STORE X, r1 ; store r1 into variable x

LOAD r1, X ; load variable x into r1
STORE Y, r1 ; store r1 into variable y

.DATA
X: 0 ; declare a memory location for variable x
Y: 0 ; declare a memory location for variable y


naw breh...fukk all that

Move push pop and all that shyt. My head was spinning that whole semester teacher gave me a C just because he knew that wouldve been the only class that wouldve held me back from graduating. I was one of the top C/C++ programmers in my graduating class.

actually assembly aint bad.....I actually liked it in college...try looking at some of the javascript we have:...now this will make your eyes bleed


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They minified that shyt lol. If you take a look at extjs/Sencha you will see the same clusterfukk of all white spaces being removed. I would paste that shyt in eclipse and hit ctrl+a then ctrl + shift+ f to blow that shyt back up. Now what I dont like is how the function dont have any meaningful names. That shyt hurts on the head and makes for a LONG day of debugging

Game dev is its own field.. If you want advice for this field head over to gamedev.net.

Also I see people talking about Certs? Certs dont really help out programmers... 90 - 95% of programmers have no certifications.


Also look into Open Source Projects......its a great way to show you know what you are doing. Esp if you work on something popular.

Yes this is true. I have an Oracle Cert and that is it was thinking about getting my Java certs but I think certs are good for people trying to break into a different realm of programming. Eg if you you did DB2 programming all your life and you want to start working with Oracle some employers wont hire you because you have no Oracle experience + PL/SQL so what I did after being a DB developer for 8 years at the time I went ahead and got the certification. Now my inbox stays full with Oracle programming jobs

 

[Silver Surfer]

Move push pop and all that shyt. My head was spinning that whole semester teacher gave me a C just because he knew that wouldve been the only class that wouldve held me back from graduating. I was one of the top C/C++ programmers in my graduating class.



They minified that shyt lol. If you take a look at extjs/Sencha you will see the same clusterfukk of all white spaces being removed. I would paste that shyt in eclipse and hit ctrl+a then ctrl + shift+ f to blow that shyt back up. Now what I dont like is how the function dont have any meaningful names. That shyt hurts on the head and makes for a LONG day of debugging





Yes this is true. I have an Oracle Cert and that is it was thinking about getting my Java certs but I think certs are good for people trying to break into a different realm of programming. Eg if you you did DB2 programming all your life and you want to start working with Oracle some employers wont hire you because you have no Oracle experience + PL/SQL so what I did after being a DB developer for 8 years at the time I went ahead and got the certification. Now my inbox stays full with Oracle programming jobs

haha.....yep you know your shyt....Eclipse all day!...the senior developer next to me writes code in VI...Im like FUKK THAT!!

 

[matthew2777]

Move push pop and all that shyt. My head was spinning that whole semester teacher gave me a C just because he knew that wouldve been the only class that wouldve held me back from graduating. I was one of the top C/C++ programmers in my graduating class.



They minified that shyt lol. If you take a look at extjs/Sencha you will see the same clusterfukk of all white spaces being removed. I would paste that shyt in eclipse and hit ctrl+a then ctrl + shift+ f to blow that shyt back up. Now what I dont like is how the function dont have any meaningful names. That shyt hurts on the head and makes for a LONG day of debugging



Yes this is true. I have an Oracle Cert and that is it was thinking about getting my Java certs but I think certs are good for people trying to break into a different realm of programming. Eg if you you did DB2 programming all your life and you want to start working with Oracle some employers wont hire you because you have no Oracle experience + PL/SQL so what I did after being a DB developer for 8 years at the time I went ahead and got the certification. Now my inbox stays full with Oracle programming jobs

how much do u get paid

 

[Silver Surfer]

Check this out...so I was asked about a month ago to find some graph/charting libraries we can use in our code..and make some prototypes. I found this one JS library and made a graph...but it had a ugly "chart by amcharts" stick plastered in the front of it..thats cool...if you dont buy it its up there..so I looked in the source code and this is minified as fukk.....but dude thought he was clever....Im more clever

found this this here:

d = AmCharts.text(this.container, "moc.strahcma yb trahc".split("").reverse().join(""), "#000000", "Verdana", 11, "start");

this mother fukker spelled it backwards and ran a reverse and join function on it......

 

[Spatial Paradox]

listen man. i'm all for education and all. but dont get urself in debt thinking once u get that masters, all u goto do is go on a job interview and job is yours.

with programming, there's one thing i realized which is true whether you like it or not. you need creativity. if you're not creative, u will not do well at a company even if u happen to miraculously get the job.

most of the time, ur manager wont know how to programming (he doesn't really need to....his job is to manage). all he does is give u task to complete.

its up to you to use your creativity to accomplish the task.

one thing they wont teach in school is tell u real world scenarios.

if ur really interested in doing programming for a job, go to bookstores and read up on real programming books. not the crap they force u to buy at ur college. the ones at the bookstores contain information that actually involves REAL WORLD cases. that's what you need.

Almost every programming/software development job listing I've come across has a bachelor's in CS or a related field as a requirement. How am I supposed to get my foot in the door if my resume gets tossed in the trash immediately after whoever's looking at it realizes the only relevant education I have is a few undergraduate CS courses?

I already have a bunch of programming books lying and I've plenty more I'm planning to pick up. But I still don't see how that gets my foot in the door in terms of educational requirements.

I'm not too thrilled about the thought of being in school even longer, or the debt I'd be in, but considering my circumstances, I'm not seeing how I have much of a choice.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

how much do u get paid

I live in the DMV, am a Govt contractor that has been programming for 12 years. I am a Senior Software Engineer/Senior Java Developer/Web Programmer with Database Experience.

Check this out...so I was asked about a month ago to find some graph/charting libraries we can use in our code..and make some prototypes. I found this one JS library and made a graph...but it had a ugly "chart by amcharts" stick plastered in the front of it..thats cool...if you dont buy it its up there..so I looked in the source code and this is minified as fukk.....but dude thought he was clever....Im more clever

found this this here:

d = AmCharts.text(this.container, "moc.strahcma yb trahc".split("").reverse().join(""), "#000000", "Verdana", 11, "start");

this mother fukker spelled it backwards and ran a reverse and join function on it......

LMFAO when I wouldve found that I wouldve given the screen a did this nikka really think this was going to fly. And LOL and you coworker still using Vi to code. I did it for 8 years but I was scripting in a language which had no supported IDE and ran on an HP Unix system. I was nice in vi back then now I can barely get aroudn when I decide to fool with Linux. sed and awk used to be my shyt

Almost every programming/software development job listing I've come across has a bachelor's in CS or a related field as a requirement. How am I supposed to get my foot in the door if my resume gets tossed in the trash immediately after whoever's looking at it realizes the only relevant education I have is a few undergraduate CS courses?

I'm not too thrilled about the thought of being in school even longer, or the debt I'd be in, but considering my circumstances, I'm not seeing how I have much of a choice.

Truest is cool but when it comes to talking about degrees and shyt he shuts down on the whole debt thing. In this field if you dont have the right papers you are limiting yourself as you have already seen. The folks that broke into this field with Certs and Associates were cats the ate, slept and shyt this stuff. They are also the 1% which is unrealistic to think everyone can do it. Ole if Zuckerburg did it ass I can do it to ass nikka. To me that aint the life.

College offered more than structured lessons. It taught you how to intermingle with people, work in groups, get tasks done as a team, talk to women etc. Locking yourself in your apt at 25+ years old to learn a language and get certifications will guarantee you will be p*ssyless and womanless while going through the process, not to mention your social skills wil atrophy and you will become socially awkward as a result...


The only cats at my job that dont have degrees served in the military before I was born EVERYONE else HAS AT least a Bachelors. If ANYONE doubts this PLEASE for the love of GOD go to monster.com, usajobs.com,dice.com,careerbuilder.com and LOOK AT THE MINIMUM EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ENTRY LEVEL/JUNIOR PROGRAMMER this is 0-3 years experience.

 

[Golayitdown]

Check this out...so I was asked about a month ago to find some graph/charting libraries we can use in our code..and make some prototypes. I found this one JS library and made a graph...but it had a ugly "chart by amcharts" stick plastered in the front of it..thats cool...if you dont buy it its up there..so I looked in the source code and this is minified as fukk.....but dude thought he was clever....Im more clever

found this this here:

d = AmCharts.text(this.container, "moc.strahcma yb trahc".split("").reverse().join(""), "#000000", "Verdana", 11, "start");

this mother fukker spelled it backwards and ran a reverse and join function on it......

That's some bullshyt @ the effort

 

[Dirk Diggler]

That's some bullshyt @ the effort

LOL@the creativity of developers and how they approach problem solving keep me going in this field. I love it especially when I have to unclusterfukk another developers clusterfukk

 

[Silver Surfer]

LOL@the creativity of developers and how they approach problem solving keep me going in this field. I love it especially when I have to unclusterfukk another developers clusterfukk

he was trying to hide that bullshyt so no one would find it...I almost put it on blast in google but I said "nah...its his code"

 

[Golayitdown]

LOL@the creativity of developers and how they approach problem solving keep me going in this field. I love it especially when I have to unclusterfukk another developers clusterfukk

Had a dude that left my project that used double/triple nested hashmaps for the simplest shyt that could have been solved with an extremely simple class. I'd and keep it moving if it worked, but it doesn't. I know that I'm gonna have to go and fix all that shyt.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

he was trying to hide that bullshyt so no one would find it...I almost put it on blast in google but I said "nah...its his code"

Not knowing what i was looking for i wouldve started by searching for AmCharts and see what that turned up AFTER unminifing it in eclipse.

Sidenote is Aptana(Eclipse spin) still being actively used?

Had a dude that left my project that used double/triple nested hashmaps for the simplest shyt that could have been solved with an extremely simple class. I'd and keep it moving if it worked, but it doesn't. I know that I'm gonna have to go and fix all that shyt.

Now that is a clusterfukk. Never in a million years would i develop and attach my name to anything that has nested hashmaps. Even if I think that is the solution I take a step back and ask myself "What would the next developer think if he saw or had to debug this" that is why I hit JavaRach, StackOverflow etc for better solutions. nikka trying to write a minidatabase in the code and shyt naw Im good LOL

 

[matthew2777]

I live in the DMV, am a Govt contractor that has been programming for 12 years. I am a Senior Software Engineer/Senior Java Developer/Web Programmer with Database Experience.

so wats ur salary

 

[Silver Surfer]

so wats ur salary

bruh...that means go to salary.com and put in the info he told you...

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Like get a real good job, i dont wanna go to a university and be 40 thou in debt.

Preferably being on a game development team.

son...dont go for associates go for bachelors...go two years community college, get good grades, then find an intern or employer who would pay for your education...or has tuition reimbersment

developer
- learn web programming (php, asp, mysql, etc
- object oriented programming (c#, java, etc)
- game thoery
- work with graphic designer...

if you set out to be the go to programmer, you would never be broke, learn the new and old programming languages (fortran, pascal, cobol) so one can get the one off jobs...learn ios and android...mobile developer in the united states charge 50 to 100 dolllars per hour