Canelo: I think Crawford is way better than Floyd Mayweather

[NormanConnors]

crawford copied the whole floyd gameplan

lol

Almost, only difference is Floyd stood in front of Canelo for the ENTIRE fight, Bud was on his bike more, but yeah son/and Bomac incorporated watched those tapes

 

[Shadow King]

Nostalgia will always win.

 

[Rell84shots]

Well you lost to both so

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Recency bias is grabbing a lot of people here. During the fight with Floyd, Floyd neutralized everything and Floyd came forward a lot too. Crawford's win over Canelo was very impressive and was clearly the better man and boxer that night. Floyd made Canelo look like he's an amateur.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

Two different eras, two different fighters.
Floyd has achieved greatness.
Bud has achieved greatness.

Canelo can have his opinion because he was in the ring with both fighters.

Let's give each fighter their due respect.

 

[Black Lightning]

He was a pup then. You can't compare him to the fighter he is now. Even though he's past his prime now he's still better than the 22 year old version of himself

Not this bullshyt again.

Canelo was 23 with 7 years of pro fight experience. He also had 40+ fights under his belt and was the #1 ranked fighter in his division.

 

[steph_harden]

Canelo Alvarez was 23 years old with 43 professional fights when he lost to Floyd Mayweather (who was 45-0 )and out of his prime at the age of 36.......yet somehow Canelo was too young and inexperienced. Meanwhile at 21 years old, Mike Tyson beat the crap out of Larry Holmes. The spin is amazing.

Not this bullshyt again.

Canelo was 23 with 7 years of pro fight experience. He also had 40+ fights under his belt and was the #1 ranked fighter in his division.

Was Canelo in his prime vs Floyd or not?

And why are we acting like all fights are made equal? 90% of those 40+ fights were against absolute bums

It’s quality of fights not the quantity.

You Floyd fanboys really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

Crawford is just a better overall fighter than Floyd. The advantages that Floyd has (defense/god tier ring iq and adjustments/footwork) are all negated by Bud who is all time great at all of those as well…only he also has ten times the power of Floyd.

And Bud doesn’t even have a “Castillo” on his record either.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Was Canelo in his prime vs Floyd or not?

And why are we acting like all fights are made equal? 90% of those 40+ fights were against absolute bums

It’s quality of fights not the quantity.

You Floyd fanboys really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

Crawford is just a better overall fighter than Floyd. The advantages that Floyd has (defense/god tier ring iq and adjustments/footwork) are all negated by Bud who is all time great at all of those as well…only he also has ten times the power of Floyd.

And Bud doesn’t even have a “Castillo” on his record either.

Was Floyd in his prime vs Canelo?

No he wasn't.

He was 36 years old, had hand problems and basically in his 98 Jordan 2nd 3-peat part of his career.......I've said it before & I'll say it again. The great tragedy of Floyd Mayweather's career is that he became a household name & star AFTER his prime. It would be like if Jordan's first 9 years & first 3 peat were on tape delay & the casual fan only remembered his second three peat.

People are using this Bud-Canelo fight to disparage Floyd Mayweather and I don't like it. People are essentially punishing Floyd for being a naturally smaller fighter who maxed out at 154, a weight he could barely get to. FWIW, the version of Canelo that showed up against Bud the other night would have gotten schooled by Floyd as well.

Canelo wasn't throwing his jab while Crawford worked behind his. Canelo was loading up his left hook and his right hand, yall don't think Floyd Mayweather Jr wouldn't have seen everything he was throwing from a mile away and countered him to death.

I do think Bud would be HELL against Floyd at 147 and personally I think Bud should be favored if they met at 147. I don't think Floyd's prime was ever at welterweight.

Floyd's true prime was at 130, 135 and 140.......this is the problem I have when people talk about Floyd. People treat his entire career as a 19 year prime when his prime likely ended when he retired the first time in 2007.

Remember, Floyd was way more offensive in the smaller weight classes before he had hand problems.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

People will say X fighter wasn't in their prime when it comes to Floyd but somehow treat Floyd's entire career like he was in his prime. So everyone else aged except for Floyd Mayweather? Everyone else declined but not Floyd?

 

[RedBull]

People will say X fighter wasn't in their prime when it comes to Floyd but somehow treat Floyd's entire career like he was in his prime. So everyone else aged except for Floyd Mayweather? Everyone else declined but not Floyd?

This is what separates him from others, including Bud. Floyd is held to standards others aren’t. He was so good most people don’t know his prime ended way before Canelo. People treat him like his whole career was his prime.

 

[theflyest]

Was Canelo in his prime vs Floyd or not?

And why are we acting like all fights are made equal? 90% of those 40+ fights were against absolute bums

It’s quality of fights not the quantity.

You Floyd fanboys really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

Crawford is just a better overall fighter than Floyd. The advantages that Floyd has (defense/god tier ring iq and adjustments/footwork) are all negated by Bud who is all time great at all of those as well…only he also has ten times the power of Floyd.

And Bud doesn’t even have a “Castillo” on his record either.

Canelo wasn’t in his prime against Crawford either and one could argue that his 23 year old counterpart was more effective than the mid 30s version of Canelo we have been seeing. Canelo was really good at 23.

Regardless, Canelo isn’t beating boxers the caliber of Mayweather or Crawford at any age.

 

[surv2syn]

I think it's weight dependent. Floyd at 135 would be hell for Bud at 135. But Bud at 147 would beat Floyd at 147. Bud just a bigger guy and his power at 147 is not properly respected. People should now be looking at what he did at 147 with the hindsight that we seen this dude at 168 hold his own with a 168 Canelo. Those PBC fighters held Bud's career back a lot. He probably would be ruling 160 right now if he coulda got the Spence fight out the way sooner.

I think opposite. May got hit much more at 135-140 and Bud was too strong at those weights. Look at that Corley fight and tell me you think Floyd could beat Bud fighting that way at 140. At 147 Floyd was really strong with better defense. Floyd been in a few firefights with Castillo, Corley and Burton.

 

[surv2syn]

Canelo wasn’t in his prime against Crawford either and one could argue that his 23 year old counterpart was more effective than the mid 30s version of Canelo we have been seeing. Canelo was really good at 23.

Regardless, Canelo isn’t beating boxers the caliber of Mayweather or Crawford at any age.

I think Canelo is speaking of Bud in terms of fighting. He is a better “fighter” than Floyd. Guys like Canelo don’t respect guys that don’t fight or commit to power punching. He definitely can’t be talking about “boxing”. He was frustrated against both but he was able to touch Bud especially upstairs. He wasn’t able to touch Floyd at all and no matter how much he improved that fight would always go the same way Floyd was old as hell and washed him.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I don't want to get into the who would win debate now but comparing the two Canelo wins it's clear as day Bud's is the more impressive.
A better (green version years before his prime vs slightly past prime version) and bigger Canelo than the one Floyd fought. Also while Floyd could resort to A side shaenigans (catch weight) Bud had to deal with Canelo at Canelo's terms all that while jumping up 2 divisions.
Even if Floyd was never a big 147er let alone 154er the circumstances make Bud's win more impressive. I would say more impressive than any Floyd win too. Floyd's resume is still deeper though

 

[Big Boss]

Was Canelo in his prime vs Floyd or not?

And why are we acting like all fights are made equal? 90% of those 40+ fights were against absolute bums

It’s quality of fights not the quantity.

You Floyd fanboys really need to take off the rose colored glasses.

Crawford is just a better overall fighter than Floyd. The advantages that Floyd has (defense/god tier ring iq and adjustments/footwork) are all negated by Bud who is all time great at all of those as well…only he also has ten times the power of Floyd.

And Bud doesn’t even have a “Castillo” on his record either.

Was Floyd in his prime???

They are 13 years old apart. Was Floyd supposed to wait till his 40s to fight Canelo??