In the discussion of exploitation and what if's, yeah, sure. But the order of what's better overall for a society, goes in the order of Communism > Socialism > Capitalism. The true, ideal outcome for each philosophy, it's clear.
If you go back in history, every time a communist state popped up, the US meddled within the country to thwart its success. A quick rundown from chat:
| Country | Communism “pops up” (year) | Did the U.S. Intervene | What kind of interaction (very short) |
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| Soviet Union | 1917 | Yes | Early intervention + later Cold War containment | | Mongolia | 1924 | Limited | Mostly diplomatic distance / late recognition | | China | 1949 | Yes | Major rivalry; Korea/Taiwan-era confrontation | | North Korea | 1948 | Yes | Korean War; long sanctions/hostility | | Vietnam | 1945 | Yes | Vietnam War (major U.S. combat role) | | Laos | 1975 | Yes | Indochina proxy/covert conflict spillover | | Cambodia | 1975 | Yes | Indochina war spillover; strong hostility | | Cuba | 1959 | Yes | Bay of Pigs + long embargo/sanctions | | Albania | 1946 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | Bulgaria | 1946 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | Czechoslovakia | 1948 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | East Germany | 1949 | Yes | Berlin-centered Cold War confrontation | | Hungary | 1949 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | Poland | 1947 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | Romania | 1947 | Yes | Cold War hostility (limited direct action) | | Yugoslavia | 1945 | Yes (mixed) | Hostile early, later significant U.S. engagement | | Afghanistan | 1978 | Yes | Major covert/proxy war period | | Angola | 1975 | Yes | Backed anti-communist side in civil war | | Ethiopia | 1974 | Limited/Mixed | Shift in alliances; mostly indirect competition | | South Yemen | 1969 | Limited | Regional rivalry; mostly indirect | | Grenada | 1979 | Yes | U.S. invasion in 1983 |
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Dismantling capitalism dismantles the hold a lot of these ultra wealthy old money devils have on the US and a lot of other western nations. That's why they demonized words such as socialism and communism. They're devils. Interested in hoarding wealth and creating imaginary economic lines in the sand.
Again from chat, here is a concise breakdown of each.
Capitalism
The basic idea is that people and companies should be free to own property, start businesses, and compete, because competition and profit push innovation and efficiency. Its structure is mostly
private ownership and
markets setting prices and deciding what gets produced, with government rules varying by country. The goal is
economic growth and individual opportunity through voluntary exchange. In practice, it aims to raise living standards, but can also concentrate wealth without strong competition and safeguards.
Socialism
The core idea is that the economy should be organized to serve the public and workers, not primarily owners, so that wealth and power don’t pile up at the top. Its structure increases
social/worker/public ownership or control of key industries (sometimes alongside markets), and usually includes stronger public services and worker protections. The goal is
greater equality, security, and democratic control over the economy. In practice, it tries to balance fairness with productivity, and can struggle if it becomes overly bureaucratic or poorly run.
Communism
The philosophy is that class conflict comes from private ownership of major productive property, so society should move to
common ownership where no one lives off owning what others must work for. Its structure in theory ends with a
classless, stateless system where resources are shared and decisions are made collectively; in practice, countries that called themselves communist often used
state ownership and one-party rule as a “transition.” The ultimate goal is a society with
no economic classes and no exploitation, where people get what they need and contribute what they can. The biggest real-world risk has been power concentrating in the state rather than disappearing.
So you tell me, reading these three, which would be easiest to exploit others, as well as, which would be best and worst for society.