Discussion in 'The Booth' started by bmooregorrilaxxx_23, Feb 10, 2019.
fukk the grammys. That don't mean shyt to hiphop
A rapper who cant rap live. With that nursery ass flow too. Dark times
every artist. it's symbolizes universal recognition of talent in some capacity and why everybody doesn't have one.
that's not to say that the grammys aren't trash when it comes to rap, but it also means us as listeners have to actively campaign great rap albums. it's why we need more black rap blogs and sites.
disregarding her not writing anything, the songs on the album are perfect for her, she has been recognized and praised by numerous publications. she was the first female rapper to have multiple number ones. bodak yellow is a lowkey empowerment anthem for strippers and sex workers in general. she got pregnant and immediately cheated on, but followed it up with be careful which is an absolutely amazing song and then she surprised everybody with I Like It, not just a latin trap song, but a bilingual one at that during the trump era. in comparison to nicki, she was much more open, there wasn't no harajuku barbie and fake voices shyt, she embraced her past as stripper, she flipped chickenhead into a ho empowerment/p*ssy is power song, she openly embraced her sexuality without overly sexualizing herself. she shined off personality, where she came from and what she turned into. nicki being overly vocal last year didn't help either. regardless of how right she was about certain things, it seemed like jealousy and over further drew the contrast between what people used to think nicki was and cardi. nicki was and still is an icon in her own right, she's never shied away from being sexual and showing off her body, but the main thing was that people used to think she had a great personality to tie it all together. nicki could always rap and sing, but cardi having pardi, who is seemingly great at capturing an artists' persona and highlighting their unique quriks, on her side helped a lot when it came down to actual songwriting. as nicki started embracing her sexuality more and more, it came out more gratuitous than feminist. when it gets to the point where nicki decides that her, wayne and drake should make a song about how they didn't fukk but if they did, it would be like this. her sexual side seems more of a marketing tool than something natural. she embraced her status as queen instead of being more humanistic and relatable as an artist.
cardi basically took what made anaconda revolutionary as a song and ran with it, but as an openly proud ex stripper, she did it from a level more women could relate to. and during the perfect time where sex work, be it stripping, camming or porn, has became a lot more accepted by society (porn maybe less so, but more and more have established themselves as personalizes outside of work). this is an age where a lot of normal ass girls started doing private snaps and literally nobody cared or made it seem demeaning. men and women recognize the hustle and the mutual benefit. cardi made anthems for them, she highlighted how stripping helped her life in multiple ways, including sending her back to school. she came off much more down to earth during interviews, so both sides of her became appealing and united. she was showing girls they can be sexual without having to constantly flaunt it and with be careful, even fully embraced it during anger/heartbreak. she showed an insane amount of versatility for a debut album. even the singles were wildly different from each other but still very obviously her.
like it or not, everything she did really broke ground for female artists in ways nicki couldn't do. joe budden jokes about the amount of strippers/dolls trying to rap now, but that's a good thing, honestly. nicki always elevated herself to a level that people would love to be on, but could never reach and actively shunned a lot of other female artists. cardi purposely told her story and placed herself on a level she wanted others to reach. from the start she was about female empowerment. she didn't change up from love and hip hop to now. while nicki spent the year hating on cardi and everybody else, cardi used twitter to attack trump, talk about politics, etc as a afro-latina woman. fukking stephen colbert started a petition for her to give the state of the union address. that's a huge endorsement of her influence. even readers of the new york times voted her to be there with kaep and the parkland survivors.
she honestly did more off a debut than nicki did off 3/4 albums and garnered a lot more respect from a wide variety of people.
nipsey could have won if everybody would have been more aware and vocal of the work he's doing in his town. the grammy voters aren't googling each artists' year. they're going off cultural relevancy, their opinion of the album and so on. knowing their demographics, i'm sure them and most viewers were unaware of him buying back the hood, building schools to get the youth in on tech early, his unification of his gang roots into something culturally positive like they idealized at the start, being the first rapper to show the value of rap music this decade by selling 1000s of CDs for $100 and 100s of CDs for $1000 while rappers are making 000.3 off streams. nikkas just said cool and kept it moving to that. granted, cardi has a much bigger reach, but us as rap fans have been aware of his actions for years.
the only other campaiging i saw was for Daytona by a bunch of cac publications, including complex's multiple articles, his vanity fair interviews, etc, etc. even some nikkas here were heavily supporting that for some weird reason like it ever had an actual chance to win. ya'll were busying hyping up a diss that had literally no impact on drake, and really only negatively affected adidas and kanye in the long run. out of all the competitors, they're not gonna give the grammy to fukking fake artistic coke bars or think highly of an artist that took 5 years to make a 21 minute tape.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes. i'mma actually make a thread later today about pusha since he garnered all this praise and had the album of the year according to multiple publications. all of that attention made 0 sense to me considering how weak the album actually is compared to every other album it was up against. pusha is 41 years old and has been rapping about the same thing with 0 substance his whole career. look at all of his drug dealing peers and how they evolved over the years. jay essentially made a black empowerment tape with 4:44 that people somehow criticized for "talking down." T.I. made two albums inspired by the blacklivesmatter movement. even Rick Ross has been more personal than Pusha. 21 Savage, too.
i'm actually dying at ya'll letting a nikka that was raised in nice white suburbs with both parents, who never sold drugs for necessity like his peers and only sold because his cousin and brother did duck multiple attacks on his persona and "authenticity" just because they came from Drake, even when Drake literally quoted his own brother about push.ya'll hyped a 41 year old man from the suburbs by the beach with braids, that has been rapping about only one thing in the most impersonal way ever, talk about how drake never speaks about black issues after literally making fun of another black kid for being raised by a single parent, his dad walking out on him - two things common in the black community and then criticize them bridging the relationship after drake has vocalized that difficulty.
that's such a wild thing for any black person to say to another. especially in response to somebody questioning the amount of drugs you sold. it's not even about lines, its' more so about how it was a straight attempt to have white people laugh and talk about it. it's not even disrespectful, it's just really really weird. especially coming from somebody with pusha's background who admittedly grew up secured with both parents in a city with like a 10% black population. honestly, the idea of a diss track just to paint somebody as a deadbeat dad when you know he was planning to announce his son through his album is weird looking back.
it's weird how these tweets were ignored in the context of the beef, too.
and assuredly, most of the praise and album of the year noms for the album was backed off the hype of the diss track. it's like the diss track alone removed any critical look at the album and push as an artist. push has literally only rapped about selling coke with references to art, luxury brands, etc. since hell hath no fury. it's weird how much white publications praise the album without actually discussing it's context in rap. by far the weirdest nom and media push. including the attempts to make it seem like it had any sort of impact outside of being a gossip topic. meek had a bigger push and didnt' receive anywhere near the praise.
even the guardian called him raps' best drug storyteller even though jay z completely washed him on drug dealers anonymous just by simply telling a story.
thank god that didn't win.
You dont think illmatic deserved a grammy
nikka you wrote a whole essay in a cardi b thread
Welcome to ignore. You don't seem to know when to turn that trolling s.hit off.
Busts Rhymes? Snoop?
But I thought Black folks were going to boycott the Shammies like a decade ago..
He's got eleven Grammy nominations, y'all not equal
Maaaan fukk these white people!
My grandma died at 82, scrubbin' floors
And nikkas still runnin' 'round beggin' for awards
Who gives a fukk about a Grammy, hip hop was 15 yrs old when they were in they prime. shyt is washed
Why do Nas deserve a Grammy?
you really think thing this deserves a creditable real response troll better breh
It did, but, with all due respect to Digable Planets (love their music btw) he should've won in 94.
Ok u didn’t answer. When should they just gave him one? I would like to know
His best chance was illmatic and the award didn’t exist then. Every album he released after had a lukewarm response or a more praised album was released. Nas don’t deserve shyt. He lost