Cardi B vs Meg thee Stallion over Ghost writing Bars

[CinnaSlim]

Meanwhile...

 

[TrebleMan]

Blame the 90s and 00s Bling Era for that.

The same people that these old motherfukkers champion, are the same people that brought in the rampant materialism and consumerism and "rap is a hustle" mindset.

This right here. Fact is the pure “art” of it has been compromised for a long ass time already. Some great music came from it, but the ideals people keep bringing up weren’t in that music. Those were some of my favorite years of hip-hop and had some of my favorite songs and albums too.

shyt, everybody used to talk back then about “freestyles” in the 90’s and 2000’s but all them bars were pre-written. Nobody gave a fukk though.

Remember “the four elements”? Drake, Nicki, Young Thug, etc. weren’t responsible for compromising them in the 90’s. Remember “breath control”? When was the last time an artist didn’t punch in?

The hip-hop ideals have been over already - I’ve already accepted it and enjoy the show for what it is now. Otherwise you just going to be mad all the time and you really don’t get anything out of that. Remember when everybody asked: “What happened to sampling?!?!” Then two weeks later Drake released Nice For What and everybody was mad. Ain’t got no time to be mad at music for the next 40 years. That said, there’s opportunity to grow: Instead of being mad, try to learn something from it. If anything Metro taught me a lot about melodies and Zaytoven influenced me to learn to play piano by ear.

Sway realized the same thing, dude had the Wake Up Show and tried to keep the art clean longer than anybody, but knew he couldn’t fight time. In order to keep going dude had to accept what was happening.

 

[AlainLocke]

No you don’t

You listen cause the music sounds good to you

Not really.

I listen to music often just to find out what is going on in a genre or to find the innovators and originators in a genre. I have listened to plenty of music and genres that I don't like just out of the enjoyment of finding a new artist or a new genre.

And if I find Hip Hop that sounds good, I research who made it and if I find out that the motherfukker ain't writing then I don't listen to them. If you can't rap, which is the lowest skill on the musical totem poll, then I ain't listening.

Take Prince for example, who produced and written entire albums and etc for people, I listen to Sheila E, to hear Prince throwaways. I don't listen to Sheila for Sheila E. I am following Prince's creative genius.

I am a critical music listener, my enjoyment comes from knowing about who is making what and what their role is. No different than someone admiring a painting for the brush strokes and knowing who inspired who and the inspiration behind it.

Most of the artists I listen to enjoy, make their own shyt, mostly singer-songwriter types because I don't respect people who are just doing karaoke, that's not artistic to me.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Hip hop used to be a more personal genre that was more about authenticity and individual expression.

Nobody cared if Whitney Houston wrote "I'm Your Baby Tonight" but it really mattered that 2 Pac wrote "Dear Mama"

There was nothing fake deep about that. It was just about a personal connection with the artist and their thoughts.

Now it doesn't matter. But it did at one point.

I don’t care what hiphop use to be

People listen to music cause they like the music not because the person wrote it

If it didn’t sound good to you then you would not listen no matter how it was made

What y’all are arguing is silly

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

I don’t care what hiphop use to be

People listen to music cause they like the music not because the person wrote it

If it didn’t sound good to you then you would not listen no matter how it was made

What y’all are arguing is silly

Nobody said that tho

And yes certain ppl do go deeper into it

 

[stave]

fukk if I know, I only saw one of her freestyles

What are some of meg the stallion's hit songs?

Big ole freak is trash

Female rap not really my thing but some of them can rap for real like Jean Grae and that Rapsody chick. This thot rap doesn't interest me at all, just because of the content. But I rather see people who can actually write their own music over manufactured products

 

[CrimsonTider]

Nobody said that tho

Not really.

I listen to music often just to find out what is going on in a genre or to find the innovators and originators in a genre. I have listened to plenty of music and genres that I don't like just out of the enjoyment of finding a new artist.

And if I find Hip Hop that sounds good, I research who made it and if I find out that the motherfukker ain't writing then I don't listen to them.

Take Prince for example, who produced and written entire albums and etc for people, I listen to Sheila E, to hear Prince throwaways. I don't listen to Sheila for Sheila E. I am following Prince's creative genius.

I am a critical music listener, my enjoyment comes from knowing about who is making what and what their role is. No different than someone admiring a painting for the brush strokes and knowing who inspired who and the inspiration behind it.

Most of the artists I listen to enjoy, make their own shyt because I don't respect people who are just doing karaoke, that's not artistic to me.

 

[xCivicx]

She looks natty in the pics ive seen

You could be right

I just remember watching one of her freestyles from a few years ago and she dam near looked like a pole

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Oshyt

@CrimsonTider

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Oshyt

 

[AlainLocke]

I stopped paying attention to dude when he said backpack nikkas hated Fabulous
Actually before then probably but whatever

Growing up Breathe was all over the radio and everybody fukked with him

Like bruh just be talking

But he’s right in that most nikkas don’t care about ghostwriters

But ppl with ghostwriters keep getting tight when the few people who do care mention it

Because, everybody knows that in Hip Hop, unless you are producer, at least you can write your own fukking bars.

Like, how hard is it, to really rap. If you can talk, count and write, you can rap.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

And..so what if she was spitting better than alot of nikkas, alot of nikkas are shyt. I can listen to Cardi B and Meghan thee Stallion long before i could listen to Lil Yatchy and Uzi Vert.

I agree breh

 

[CrimsonTider]

Because, everybody knows that in Hip Hop, unless you are producer, at least you can write your own fukking bars.

Like, how hard is it, to really rap. If you can talk, count and write, you can rap.

Why aren’t you a rapper then ?

 

[AlainLocke]

Why aren’t you a rapper then ?

Because some people have other interests than rapping?

Rapping ain't all that. Been around rappers my whole life, even wrote songs.

Why you acting like people don't have their own interests, fukk is wrong with you?

 

[Gold]

The less i know about music and the artist, the more i can enjoy it.

The more i kno, the less enjoyable it is

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

And..so what if she was spitting better than alot of nikkas, alot of nikkas are shyt. I can listen to Cardi B and Meghan thee Stallion long before i could listen to Lil Yatchy and Uzi Vert.

I mean its unpopular to say but the bar is pretty low for men to break into the current rap game. A nikka like playboy Carti can mumble while on lean and it's a hit but an equivalent female rapper just doesnt exist. If she does shes rightfully thrown in the trash. If you wanna be successful as a female artist you need bars and constant publicity stunts to stay relevant. We've got too many dusty nikkas gatekeeping this shyt