Charles Barkley does have a point. The NBA is going through a transition phase

[UpAndComing]

Barkley saying that the NBA is the worst that it's ever been isn't him totally just blowing smoke IMO

This got me thinking. There's really not alot of Top NBA players in their prime, at their peak, currently

Someone help me out here

- Kevin Durant - Isaiah Thomas
- Russell Westbrook - John Wall
- James Harden - Blake Griffin
- Steph Curry - Klay Thompson
- Damien Lillard - Paul George
- Jimmy Butler - Kemba Walker

Let's be honest, can this current era group stack up to the earlier eras in the 80s, 90s, or 2000s . The lack of superstars in their primes leads to so many lackluster teams. No Leadership, no elite play


What also makes this era sub-par is the most of the superstar type players are all young as hell and have yet to reach their prime and dominate


- Kawhi Leonard - Joel Embiid
- KAT - Demarcus Cousins
- Porzingis - Kyrie Irving
- Anthony Davis - Andre Drummond
- Giannis - Julius Randle
- Jabari Parker - Andrew Wiggins
- Gordon Hayward - Bradley Beal


The 2003-2005 NBA draft generation (Lebron, Wade, Carmelo, Chris Paul, etc) are either just exiting their prime, or like 3 years from retirement, getting older, and this current era starting to look funny in the light

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

I like how you snuck Julius Randle in there

 

[The Fire]

The transition phase was a couple years ago. The league already has young stars in AD, kyrie, KAT, porzingis, Giannis, Jabari, etc etc. Few more are close to making the leap, Devin booker, d'angelo. Couple good draft classes coming up
the NBA is about to really get good

 

[H. Selassie]

Of course he had a point and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. The NBA's current product is straight pisswater.

In that other thread people reacted to an isolated quote without watching the video for full context. Like Denzel talked about, the need to be first vs. actually being factual.

 

[mastermind]

Barkley saying that the NBA is the worst that it's ever been isn't him totally just blowing smoke IMO

This got me thinking. There's really not alot of Top NBA players in their prime, at their peak, currently

Someone help me out here

- Kevin Durant - Isaiah Thomas
- Russell Westbrook - John Wall
- James Harden - Blake Griffin
- Steph Curry - Klay Thompson
- Damien Lillard - Paul George
- Jimmy Butler - Kemba Walker

Let's be honest, can this current era group stack up to the earlier eras in the 80s, 90s, or 2000s . The lack of superstars in their primes leads to so many lackluster teams. No Leadership, no elite play


What also makes this era sub-par is the most of the superstar type players are all young as hell and have yet to reach their prime and dominate


- Kawhi Leonard - Joel Embiid
- KAT - Demarcus Cousins
- Porzingis - Kyrie Irving
- Anthony Davis - Andre Drummond
- Giannis - Julius Randle
- Jabari Parker - Andrew Wiggins
- Gordon Hayward - Bradley Beal


The 2003-2005 NBA draft generation (Lebron, Wade, Carmelo, Chris Paul, etc) are either just exiting their prime, or like 3 years from retirement, getting older, and this current era starting to look funny in the light

Your post ignores that the 90s superstars were mostly in their 30s.

 

[ISO]

He didn't have a point at all with anything he said...

 

[SadimirPutin]

He didn't have a point at all with anything he said...

barkley was spouting revisionist back in my day nonsense

 

[FTBS]

How is there a transition when you still have all these stars either smack dab in the middle or in the tail end of their primes?

The transition took place from the mid 90s through the mid 2000s. You had expansion and it seemed like all the stars from the late 80s and 90s all either got or retired at once. The talent has finally caught up with expansion and stars are playing at a higher level longer than ever before. I'm really not understanding the rose colored glasses treatment that the 2000s is getting. You had Shaq and Kobe running shyt and every other star out here carrying also rans. If anything, this current era is a carbon copy of the 80s. The game is getting faster and scores are going back up and you got top talent concentrated on two dominant teams and you have other top guys putting in work on an individual level.

As far as the future goes the talent is there it's just a matter of those guys and more importantly there organizations (since they have decided to put an end to elite player movement) putting it all together.

 

[UpAndComing]

How is there a transition when you still have all these stars either smack dab in the middle or in the tail end of their primes?

The transition took place from the mid 90s through the mid 2000s. You had expansion and it seemed like all the stars from the late 80s and 90s all either got or retired at once. The talent has finally caught up with expansion and stars are playing at a higher level longer than ever before. I'm really not understanding the rose colored glasses treatment that the 2000s is getting. You had Shaq and Kobe running shyt and every other star out here carrying also rans. If anything, this current era is a carbon copy of the 80s. The game is getting faster and scores are going back up and you got top talent concentrated on two dominant teams and you have other top guys putting in work on an individual level.

As far as the future goes the talent is there it's just a matter of those guys and more importantly there organizations (since they have decided to put an end to elite player movement) putting it all together.

Wait, what, excuse me

 

[GunRanger]

Kawhi has a fmvp and 2 dpoy but he's not in that first group

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

The transition phase was a couple years ago. The league already has young stars in AD, kyrie, KAT, porzingis, Giannis, Jabari, etc etc. Few more are close to making the leap, Devin booker, d'angelo. Couple good draft classes coming up
the NBA is about to really get good

These guys aren't in their primes though

 

[Jemmy]

The talent is there these GMs just lock their stars up with big contracts and let them rot without getting them a legit supporting cast.

 

[H. Selassie]

His biggest gripe that I agree with is the over-emphasis on analytics. People like to bring up point totals/averages and shooting percentages when that shyt is for the most part a product of the way today's game is officiated.

Of course teams are gonna score more when you can't handcheck jump shooters or be the least bit physical when someone waltzes into the paint. Bragging about that is like bragging about current NFL passing numbers.

 

[UpAndComing]

These guys aren't in their primes though

Exactly, this is what people aren't understanding

 

[director_of_bands]

sheeit yall see them wolves bucks highlights last night? these young dudes is coming