Charles Oakley says the NBA has no heart

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Statistically speaking the NBA has the least fouls per game it's ever had. In fact, each successive season there's less and less fouls. This will be the first season ever where we'll see more 3PA than FTA. So...you're wrong.

In general you old head nikkas love to state a lot of popular opinions about today's league that you'll find out are disgustingly inaccurate if you actually take some time to do some research and look at the stats and not just regurgitate what every other nikka is saying.

Of course there are fewer fouls.

Defensive players can't do shyt even if they wanted to.

It's like the NFL.

Yeah, of course these fukkin QBs are throwing for 4500 and 5000 yards....if you sneeze on a receiver or come within 3 feet of a QB, it's a flag.

 

[360Waves]

Of course there are fewer fouls.

Defensive players can't do shyt even if they wanted to.

It's like the NFL.

Yeah, of course these fukkin QBs are throwing for 4500 and 5000 yards....if you sneeze on a receiver or come within 3 feet of a QB, it's a flag.

Except...the guy I was responding to was complaining that there were too many fouls in today's league, slowing down the game, to which I pointed out that statistically speaking the 2010s era has the least fouls per game that basketball has ever seen despite having a significantly higher pace than many eras (including the beloved 90s.) You can't have it both ways. You oldhead nikkas will complain there's too many fouls then when someone says you're wrong complain there's too little fouls, but the reality is that no matter how good today's game is you fakkits are still gonna bytch because of nostalgia.

 

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Except...the guy I was responding to was complaining that there were too many fouls in today's league, slowing down the game, to which I pointed out that statistically speaking the 2010s era has the least fouls per game that basketball has ever seen despite having a significantly higher pace than many eras (including the beloved 90s.) You can't have it both ways. You oldhead nikkas will complain there's too many fouls then when someone says you're wrong complain there's too little fouls, but the reality is that no matter how good today's game is you fakkits are still gonna bytch because of nostalgia.

So in your mind things are progressively better no matter what. Guys like Charles Oakley NEVER have a point, huh?



2015 basketball is better than 2005 basketball which is better than 1995 basketball which is better than 1985 basketball.

This is what you believe, breh?

 

[360Waves]

So in your mind things are progressively better no matter what. Guys like Charles Oakley NEVER have a point, huh?



2015 basketball is better than 2005 basketball which is better than 1995 basketball which is better than 1985 basketball.

This is what you believe, breh?

It's all subjective. Some guys might prefer 2015 basketball and some might prefer 90's. I just don't understand why basketball in particular has such a huge sect of fans who do nothing but fukking complain about "back in my day" 24 fukkin 7 like nikkas are forcing them to watch today's game. Instead of being a lame and trying to argue which era is "the best," I just appreciate the sport and it's players period because I'm an actual fan.

 

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It's all subjective. Some guys might prefer 2015 basketball and some might prefer 90's. I just don't understand why basketball in particular has such a huge sect of fans who do nothing but fukking complain about "back in my day" 24 fukkin 7 like nikkas are forcing them to watch today's game. Instead of being a lame and trying to argue which era is "the best," I just appreciate the sport and it's players period because I'm an actual fan.

It's not all subjective.
Agree to disagree.

You thinking you're a "true fan" because you're somehow "above" debating the merits of the quality of the game speaks to incredible arrogance on your part.

 

[360Waves]

It's not all subjective.
Agree to disagree.

You thinking you're a "true fan" because you're somehow "above" debating the merits of the quality of the game speaks to incredible arrogance on your part.

Nowhere did I ever state that I'm above debating the merits of the quality of the game between eras. I acknowledge that the way basketball is played now is different from the way it was played in the 90's and both are different from the 80's. I acknowledge that all eras have their positives and their disadvantages as well. The point I'm getting at is that basketball is basketball period and the NBA is ripe with talent and upcoming young stars so I'm going to continue to enjoy basketball no matter what. This is pretty similar to the NFL which has seen heavy rule changes as of late..I still watch it and enjoy it. If you don't like the current state of basketball, no one is forcing you to watch. But yet all I ever seem to see from you oldheads is bytching and moaning like someone put a gun to your head to watch 2015 NBA. It's crazy.

 

[KOBE]

Statistically speaking the NBA has the least fouls per game it's ever had. In fact, each successive season there's less and less fouls. This will be the first season ever where we'll see more 3PA than FTA. So...you're wrong.

In general you old head nikkas love to state a lot of popular opinions about today's league that you'll find out are disgustingly inaccurate if you actually take some time to do some research and look at the stats and not just regurgitate what every other nikka is saying.

do you know what hand checking is? perhaps i put it wrong, it hasn't led to more fouls, but it has led to more easy points and easier drives to the bucket because players find it far harder to stop a guard's drive without being able to touch them at all. there's a reason we're in the "point guard" golden age and it sure the hell isn't because every single point guard is magically great.

also show me where you're getting your statistics from since i'd love to see them.

also if you took some time to do watch some games instead of looking up statistics you'd realize that there's going to be more 3PA than FTA this year because of the way teams are built and coached these days, with more teams taking advantage of the extra point and efficiency from 3 pointers than ever before. adding to that, the fact so many more players are spotting up and taking threes instead of attacking the paint/players working in the post is also why there are less fouls. it's a lot less likely that you're going to foul someone on a 3 point attempt than you are if they're attacking the paint or working in the post(which a lot of big men aren't doing anything as they're turning into "stretch fours").


got any more trivia to tell me without any sort of context or understand?

 

[jadillac]

Yep. In the next 10-15 years, players who are soon to be retired will the same thing too..

No they won't. Lol.

What do players now have to hang their hat on regarding toughness? They can't trash talk, they can't be physical much at all.

There won't be much of a change in 15 years....there can't be if it's still considered NBA ball

 

[Animal House]

It's a bunch of talented dudes in the league today, but something's missing.

Feels like a talented boys league and not a talented "grown man's" league like it used to.

Players are more athletic, but less intelligent.

I couldn't had said it any better breh

 

[Animal House]

Also get that zone bullshyt the fukk outta here

 

[Jamaal]

Steph Curry, Draymond Green, et al. look like they have heart to me, and they seem cool with the fans. I don't know what that dude's talking about.

 

[Marvel]

one thing i miss is hand checking. shyt has led to way too many fouls in today's league, aside from that I disagree. Guys still got heart and passion and no one is out there not wanting to win a playoff series.

The taking away of hand checking was done to help Jordan when he returned for his second 3 peat but everybody overlooks that. There was really no logical reason to take it away unless you are trying to help aging or slower players. There is a difference between taking away hard, potentially injury causing fouls out of the game vs hand checking. The NBA in the 80s had crazy scoring with hand checking but guys didn't dominate as long. Its helped a lot of guys that were not great athletes or very athletic, like Steve Nash or Paul Pierce. It became a huge advantage for quick and more athletic perimeter players like Russ, CP3, Wade, Tmac, Kobe, etc.

And I also disagree, this league has heart. There are a lot of guys in this league that want to win badly and it shows. It is hard for me to question the passion of today's players. There are about 8 teams that could win the championship and its not just the talent, its that the guys that are leading them are hungry. When you see young dudes like Klay and Steph...those guys would be content at this stage in their career like guys in the past...Marbury and Francis. A lot of dudes 10 years ago were cool with being in the All-Star game and having a shoe deal and collecting $100 million. These days guys are past that ans they truly want to be legends. Even Wall and Lillard who are overlooked are very hungry to win for being relatively young in their career.

 

[Marvel]

Steph Curry, Treymond Green, et al. look like they have heart to me, and they seem cool with the fans. I don't know what that dude's talking about.

Exactly, this might be the 2nd greatest era of basketball after the 80s and early 90s and the jury is still out on this generation to equal it with so many guys either not in their prime yet, entering their prime or still in their prime. Watching the Heat vs Spurs Finals in 2013 was easily the best brand of basketball displayed in a Final since the Celtics vs Lakers in the 80s. The best in any series since the Kings vs Lakers in the early 00s. We talked about this a couple of years back when all these young bucks were getting better and better. Now, it appears that almost all the stars that have entered the league have either met or exceeded expectations placed on them. That is what you need in order to have a strong league.

 

[DeVanteSwing]

i still think this year's playoffs will be one of the best ever

old guys need to just come to terms that they are old, nobody cares about them, and the game has changed

 

[KingJudah]

Still fun to watch, they are pussies though. Especially Lebron. These players don't really want any problems they're coddled AAU spoiled children. They have passion just no dog in em. 99% of the current players never had a fight in their life.