Cheat Code Activated :The 2014-2015 Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread

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Kyrie was trash defensively last year breh. You underestimate how much better he's got.
I joke around about Kyrie 'locking up PGs', but the truth is he really isn't - sure there might be a little bit of difference in effort from last season but nothing really noticeable. You know what has changed though? Now there's a 7'0 Andrei Chikatilo-muh'fukka waiting for these PGs in the paint and the fact that there's a day/night difference in how the team guards the PNR this season. Kyrie would be just as effective playing next to Ariza and arguably the best front court defense in the East last season, as he is currently now.

That goes for 99.9% of PGs in the league - if there isn't any resistance near the rim and the team doesn't play as a unit on that end, then it will appear as though the PG is inept defensively, when really the truth of the matter is it's really a lack of a defensive anchor and team unity.

People had expectations for the Cavs to make the playoffs last year. Now thats not to say it was all Kyrie's fault. But dude had his troubles. Kyrie would probably make the playoffs in DC. But what makes the Wizards so good is how Wall sets up shooters and feeds the Bigs.
Did you see how much success Wall had when he played with similar lineups to Irving?

2010-2011 - 23 wins and 59 losses
2011-2012 - 20 wins and 46 losses

Tristan Thompson and Irving were the only players that started more than 40 games last season, you realize how hard it is to win when the there's no steady starting lineup to build chemistry and the majority of those players that went through the starting rotation were average or garbage? shyt like Earl Clark, Alonzo Gee, CJ Miles, the corpse of Luol Deng who had a # of injury problems, Andrew Bynum, Jarrett Jack etc etc.

I mean seriously outside Tristan Thompson (who has a limited offensive game), who was Irving suppose to feed the ball to? shyt Wall had Gortat, Ariza, Beal and Nene to feed the ball to, who all except for Nene (only played 53) played 70+ games last season. What would Wall do with Tristan Thompson and shytty ass team mates who started then were benched, then started and then benched again, cause they couldn't do shyt?

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Watching Kyrie run the pick and roll :patrice: Kevin Love never gets the ball and Kyrie would rather force to the hoop. I'm not sure Kyrie's getting more than 6 assists a game.
Kyrie has no problem running the pick and roll. Once Love finds his feet and gets over injury issues (yeah it's taking longer than it should) and Bron stops doing his own thing and actually plays within the offense at least 90% of the time and not when he feels like it, you'll see this team's offense skyrocket. Kyrie is unlikely to hit high assist totals when he shares PG duties wit Bron.
I'd take Wall last year on the Cavs and I think they would have performed better. Wall in a Mike Brown defense :whoo:
They had a garbage defense last season. They wouldn't perform better with Wall, because the PG position was the least of their problems.
Again its apples oranges. Wall is clearly a better true pg. Kyrie's is an elite scorer playing pg.

Both are very good :yeshrug:

There's no such thing as a 'true' PG. But yes you're right they're both very good and they're two of the best young PGs in the league. However I do know for certain that Kyrie would have performed better in the playoffs last season than Wall did. I have no doubt in my mind that the Wizards would have gone to the ECF if Kyrie was the PG instead of him.

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Mo Williams is not good anymore. Do not want. Really inefficient and a bad defender.


I don't want to trade for him. I'd rather they get him if he buys out of his contract. They'd likely have to part with Haywood's contract if it was a trade to make the dollars work.

In terms of what's available in back-up PGs, he's probably the best that will be available.


I am hoping that the reason Love has been playing poorly is because he is simply worn down. Maybe having the week off for the All Star break will help him both physically and mentally.

We still need to add another big to keep his minutes down.........

He's been having back spasms on and off. He's getting zero lift on his shot. He needs to shut it down but he won't. Glad he will have that full week off during the All-star game. He does not need to play.

I wish LeBron and Kyrie would sit out that game too to be honest.
 

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